EFILive Cummins Update

[EFI Support]

As posted in the new Cummins section of our forum here is an update for you all (http://forum.efilive.com/forumdisplay.php?32-Diesel)

5.9L Update
Good news to report for the new year.
For those that are following development progress you might know that I am currently in New Zealand working along side Paul finalising the read and reflash process for the 2006+ 5.9L ECM (though I was told today some 2005's might be using this ECM too).

Anyway, the good news is we have got the in house beta software to the point of being able to bench read and reflash at least three of our test ECM's without any issues. Including recovery from purposely failed flashes.

Some people might be aware of the problem these ECM's have where they will loose the VIN and other important data after they have been programmed. This is actually a bug in the ECM itself, it's not the fault of any handheld programmers, not even Cummins (or Tech Authority seems to have a real solution to fix it either). However, we have come up with a reflash method that will restore the ECM's contents (that is usually lost) to a 100% duplicate of what it was prior to the flash.

For the rest of the week we need to test the licensing for the Cummins, try to get the Scantool talking correctly with the ECM and retest many GM controllers because we have made a lot of changes to the firmware and PC software. So if all goes well our beta testers will be tuning some Cummins ECM's by mid to late January. Beta testers, you will get an Email over the next couple of days explaining what is going on with the beta program.

6.7L Update
Once the 5.9L ECM product is released and stable we will move on to the 2007+ 6.7L ECM, up to at least the 2009 model before they put the RSA security in the ECM, that will have to follow later.
We are hoping to offer stable 6.7L ECM reading with the 5.9L release so customers can start sending in reads from 6.7L trucks.

Cheers
Cindy

[carcrafter22]

I'm sure alot of people will be very happy about this.

[05_LLY]

Good news indeed!

[BSwope]

That's good new's, you guy are moving right along with this project!

Patiently waiting....

[mikmaze]

almost afraid to ask about pricing.......

[Signature600]

Any idea if you will be able to offer a product for the newer ECM's, like 2010 and newer??

Chris

[DIESEL_POWER]

almost afraid to ask about pricing.......

Why??? it was posted in another forum 800(V2) plus 400 Licence), i think was the cost??

[DIESEL_POWER]

Any idea if you will be able to offer a product for the newer ECM's, like 2010 and newer??

Chris

03-05 first...:poke:

[Johnyb59]

almost afraid to ask about pricing.......

I have an update on pricing.

Our licensing model is to change shortly to align with the changes that supporting multiple manufacturers brings. When Cummins support is released customers will be able to purchase the 'Chrysler Cummins Diesel Tuning Add-On' which will cost US$399. There will also be a 'GM Tuning Add-On' product to cover the existing GM support, also priced at US$399.

Existing customers FlashScan V2 cables already include the 'GM Tuning Add-On' because that's all we support right now. New customers will have the option to choose which (or both) tuning support they wish to activate on the FlashScan V2 interface.

To tune a Cummins, you'll need FlashScan V2, currently $399, and the Cummins license $399.

To tune both Cummins and GM, you'll need FlashScan V2 and both licenses.

You'll be able to tune 2 vehicles out of the box, and purchase VIN licenses to tune additonal vehicles for $99.00. Currently FlashScan V2 can hold 221 licenses.

Cheers
Cindy

For ~ $800 you can tune two(2) cummins.

[mikmaze]

800 tune two, or 800 + 400 license ? and if it is in fact 03- 05 that is odd, covers 305 and 325 hp years........

[f6jbob]

:clap:

[Scooter's Roofing]

800 tune two, or 800 + 400 license ? and if it is in fact 03- 05 that is odd, covers 305 and 325 hp years........

he was suggesting they do 03-05 first...

and 03-05 use similar ECMs

[Signature600]

03-05 first...:poke:

Nah, hardly anything else available for the 10-up trucks, might as well have EFI Live:D

I just want to tune my tranny!
Chris

[Dodgentwo]

03-05 first...:poke:

Yea...what he said...What about us 03-04 guys ??????

[EFI Support]

800 tune two, or 800 + 400 license ? and if it is in fact 03- 05 that is odd, covers 305 and 325 hp years........

Manufacturers licenses are a once off fee - $399 for Cummins, and $399 for GM.

Hardware is $399, the Cummins manufacturers license is $399, and that ships with 2 VIN licenses to tune 2 Cummins. If you want to tune additional Cummins vehicles addtional licenses are $99.

If you wanted to tune a GM vehicle, you'd then pay $399 for the GM license, and then need a VIN license.


As for the HP differences between 03-05, that side of things is really irrelevant for us - it's all the ECM and how it's mapped. Take the GM E67 ECM, it's used in vehicles ranging from 2.2L through to 7.0L. It is used in the 6.2L Corvette as well as 2.2/2.4L HHR, as well as some of the hybrids - same ECM just different mapping

Cheers
Cindy

[SINNER]

Why would a late model (6.7) be out before the one that clearly has much more potential customers (03-05)? Seems like a backwards way to go about it.

[mikmaze]

guess the 6.7 guys are getting the pitty due to all the money they gotta spend just to take carp off the motor so it will run right, then start adding parts for power......

[EFI Support]

Why would a late model (6.7) be out before the one that clearly has much more potential customers (03-05)? Seems like a backwards way to go about it.

It's CAN - we know CAN and understand CAN, and in terms of delivery time frames can get this done alot faster than SCI; a platform we have no experience with.

Cheers
Cindy

[Howling]

Thanks for the updates.

[paulb]

Cindy,

Thanks for being patient with us. Most of us are more used to referring to our trucks by the number of valves or the injection pump it uses. The fact that the computers communicates in different ways has never been something we've payed much attention to. Who knows next week we may have sigs that read "I have a CAN'd Dodge".

Thanks for all of your hard work.

Paul

[Snedge]

Why would a late model (6.7) be out before the one that clearly has much more potential customers (03-05)? Seems like a backwards way to go about it.

guess the 6.7 guys are getting the pitty due to all the money they gotta spend just to take carp off the motor so it will run right, then start adding parts for power......


I understand the 6.7 ECM also has an independent injector curcuit. Meaning, each injector has it own dedicated pin on the ECM.

I bet that makes it a little more tuner friendly?

[SINNER]

I understand the 6.7 ECM also has an independent injector curcuit. Meaning, each injector has it own dedicated pin on the ECM.

I bet that makes it a little more tuner friendly?

All I know about 6.7's is my Dad had his for less than 6 months and took a 9k hit on trade. Between the 2 trannys and constant check engine lights he was over it. Sad part is he bought a 6.4 powerjoke and had 0 issues in the time he had it.

So what would be needed to convert a engine over to CAN besides the obvious:

ECM, harness, and fuel pedal.

Anyone know. I do not see the injectors or anything else like that being an issue. And I am not talking about the entire truck as this engine is in a Ford.

[Krazeeun]

All I know about 6.7's is my Dad had his for less than 6 months and took a 9k hit on trade. Between the 2 trannys and constant check engine lights he was over it. Sad part is he bought a 6.4 powerjoke and had 0 issues in the time he had it.

So what would be needed to convert a engine over to CAN besides the obvious:

ECM, harness, and fuel pedal.

Anyone know. I do not see the injectors or anything else like that being an issue. And I am not talking about the entire truck as this engine is in a Ford.

I don't think that much effort would be worth the extra month or two of waiting for the SCI friendly EFI to be released....

PS... it's not expensive to EPA-delete a 6.7, you guys all pretty much have an aftermarket exhaust and a tuner right? Then you've spent the same money...

[Red_Rattler]

Does anyone have a Beta version for the Cummins yet? Local shop here says they are testing it

[cummin get it]

What happend the the 98.5-02. We have computers to ya know lol.

[Krazeeun]

put a CP3 on it and you'd be in business

[EFI Support]

Does anyone have a Beta version for the Cummins yet? Local shop here says they are testing it

If your local shops says that they are testing it, well maybe they are apart of our beta team and waiting for our release. Not even I have a beta version yet.

Cheers
Cindy

[mikmaze]

just tossing out a thought.... anyone ever figure out wher ehte tuners from Van Aaken ended up? five years ago they were doing some prtty slick stuff via laptop on the cummins motor, I met them down at a test and tune in NJ with a couple trucks lucky enough to have the units that could be tuned. Let me tell ya, they sure could do a lot with a laptop in short order, seemed like they knew their way around a cummins ecu. my bet is they would be a valuable asset to anyone doing that kind of tuning.

[SINNER]

I know Kai had one but not sure if he ever had workable software. I know some bugs were never worked out on it. But they were a programmable fooler not a true ECM flash device.

[James Stevens]

Boy I can't wait, the possabilitys!!

[huhta99]

S:poke:o is this going to happen for the 03 to 05 or are we still out in left field

[Johnyb59]

Yes after the 6.7

[redram04]

looks like we'll see this before we see the new smarty ssr.

[creeg]

looks like we'll see this before we see the new smarty ssr.

Good chance....:doh: looks like the smarty will be for sale soon

[mikmaze]

what do you mean soon, they have testing scheduled for mid march.......

[EFI Support]

Our release timeframe for 5.9L CAN is much sooner than March. We now have tuned trucks running around, a full update on our progress can be found here

EFILive 5.9L Beta Update - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together (http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1351999)

Cheers
Cindy

[05_LLY]

Awesome news Cindy! Thanx!

[Jordan Koehn]

Any news on your latest updates for 6.7 engine and 5.9 trans??

[EFI Support]

07-09 6.7L Support along with the 5.9L transmission tables are currently going through the release candidate phase of testing.

We hope to finalise the install and release within the next couple of days.

Cheers
Cindy

[NicG]

The best thing I have ever done to my truck.hands down....:snoop: