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zstroken
12-16-2011, 02:15 PM
Stock HX35 turbo, 150HP injectors.

Grossing about 15K. Would EGT's be an issue between sea level and 1000ft above?

I was told a truck setup this way could run WOT all day and would never exceed 1250 degrees.


I would exceed 1500 degrees with 100HP injectors. Was my truck a fluke?

Lets assume best case of optimal tire size, and gear ratio.

BluegrassDiesel
12-16-2011, 02:27 PM
any type of programmer/box?

zstroken
12-16-2011, 02:28 PM
Timing box.

BluegrassDiesel
12-16-2011, 02:30 PM
Friend of mine has a stock 2000 VP truck. 5spd, 3.54s, Edge EZ, SDX 125s, AirDog 150, and you have to really try to get it to touch 1200

zstroken
12-16-2011, 02:32 PM
Friend of mine has a stock 2000 VP truck. 5spd, 3.54s, Edge EZ, SDX 125s, AirDog 150, and you have to really try to get it to touch 1200


Pre or post turbo?

BluegrassDiesel
12-16-2011, 02:35 PM
pre

zstroken
12-16-2011, 02:38 PM
pre


LOL, guess I was banned for rightful reason on another forum.
I have had 4 different sets of injectors in my old truck and that thing would would come on 1600 pretty easy while grossing 18K.

Turn on the wire tap and it would take 2 seconds to cool down to 1600. LOL

Big Stu
12-16-2011, 06:51 PM
LOL, guess I was banned for rightful reason on another forum.
I have had 4 different sets of injectors in my old truck and that thing would would come on 1600 pretty easy while grossing 18K.

Turn on the wire tap and it would take 2 seconds to cool down to 1600. LOL

Thats a lot of fuel, I don't think what you were told about egts below 1200 is accurate at all. I'm a class a driver and use my 05 and gooseneck to drive all over the place for a living and my egts get pretty high depending on the steepness of the grade and length of the grade, all i know is before this truck I had an 02 flatbed and it was way worse for pegging the egts...

Swamp Star
12-16-2011, 09:47 PM
Mine with 150CPP's and HR pump with Fass would hit 1300 unloaded in about 1 millasecond and the Comp wasnt on. I was never brave enough to turn the box on with the stock charger.

zstroken
12-16-2011, 09:48 PM
Mine with 150CPP's and HR pump with Fass would hit 1300 unloaded in about 1 millasecond and the Comp wasnt on.


See that was my experience.

dieselbeef
12-16-2011, 09:53 PM
itll fry....

DISTURBED
12-16-2011, 10:02 PM
I had my 150's and an the hx35 on mine for about 30 min. It pegged my 1600 gauge pretty quick before the poor hx35 exploded at 62 psi

Signature600
12-17-2011, 12:27 PM
Firend's truck I set up for him...
02 HO, NV5600 Dually, 3.55's....Edge EZ, Mach 4's, Garrett Stage 2 (GT3782R)...towing 14K lbs, 13' tall it would max at about 1325* in the manifold. I had Jammer 5's in it as well, and they would run a bit hotter, but not much. Didn't seem to make the power either.


The setup I'm building now in our FL80 to gross 50-60K lbs is pretty much identical to that one, except I'm doing a S360ET/65/12 instead of the Garrett. Gears are lower too, effectively a 4.10 gear


So I'd say, with a stock charger, it could be very warm...especially with a wire tap!
Chris

ThisPreston
12-17-2011, 12:45 PM
I ran jammer 5s on the stock charger with an edge comp, only timing, 35"s, and 3.55s. Flat ground no load I saw around 1300 degrees measured pre turbo on a wide open run. With my ADR 4K tapped it would peg the 1600* gauge in 3rd.

Rogan
02-01-2012, 08:35 PM
I had my 150's and an the hx35 on mine for about 30 min. It pegged my 1600 gauge pretty quick before the poor hx35 exploded at 62 psi

This answers my question I was about to ask...


:badidea:

stlcummins
02-01-2012, 09:08 PM
When I had a 35 on my truck with a edge ez and 120's I could hit 1600 UNLOADED. Put a 3b under that 35 or you'll be walkin.

bosshogg
02-05-2012, 11:06 AM
On my truck with a 66/71/13ss htt, edge EZ and sdx 150's towing ~5-6K (CJ7 w/v8 and trailer), the COOLEST temp I saw was 1200 in the manifold at 2000PRM at 70mph. I'm going to a smaller injector and I think I am going to try a HE351VGT, since I am now going to tow heavier....

Rogan
02-05-2012, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I've got a set of BD150s, but I don't think I'll put them in, unless I go the compound route..

chevota84
02-05-2012, 11:17 AM
On my truck with a 66/71/13ss htt, edge EZ and sdx 150's towing ~5-6K (CJ7 w/v8 and trailer), the COOLEST temp I saw was 1200 in the manifold at 2000PRM at 70mph. I'm going to a smaller injector and I think I am going to try a HE351VGT, since I am now going to tow heavier....

Holy crap! When were you spooling the Turbo?

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bosshogg
02-05-2012, 06:55 PM
If I feather the pedal out just right I can get it to spool by about 1600 or 1800 RPM, but towing with the cruise on...thats a very different story!!

gwhammy
02-05-2012, 07:21 PM
I had a 01 six speed with 75 horse injectors and a power puck with a 35/40 hybrid. Towed great with no temp problems. Changed them to mach 2.5's which are 115 and couldn't hardly tow with it.

My current setup with the 341 over 3b tows great with the 125 horse injectors. I had 200's in it and just had no adjustability on the adrenaline. With the 125's I can run the 3000 tune on 2 or 3 most of the time grossing 24000.

Silver_Ram
02-19-2012, 06:54 PM
I have 275 RV's and have been looking at either DDP 75 or 100's or Mach 1.6 or Mach 2. With the set-up I have know, I have to run the Edge on 3, 1 or 2 runs hotter towing a 12,000 lb 5th wheel. High altitude & a good grade I can hit egt's of 1,400* pre-turbo.

Can I run the DDP's or Mach's turn the Edge down or off, and still be able to tow in the mountains?

Last question - I have seen alot of posts that people say they get less smoke from the DDP's or Mach's. Is it alot less or when the foot hits the floor - mosquito's are dead for miles?