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Meyers Farms
03-04-2012, 06:10 PM
Picked up a 1960 JD 4010 today. My dad sold this tractor about 10 years ago to a local farmer that I've been working with for about 11 years. Long story short I got the tractor back today as my own. It has been sitting for about 2 years in the back of the shop. Got her out today, loaded up with the backhoe, and hauled home. Also a good load to test my Fummins.

I plan to take the tractor to a few local farmstock pulls and use it around the house some.

The main question I have is: The tractor is still 24 volt system and it is not charging. Is it worth it to spend the money and convert it to a 12 volt system, or fix the 24 volt system and use it?

Any information is welcomed, thanks!

And since we all love pics here ya go:

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/IMAG1274.jpg

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/IMAG1272.jpg

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/IMAG1271.jpg

me2
03-06-2012, 04:18 PM
My grandpa had a 5010. Wide front axle. It was a real smooth riding tractor.

I'd fix the 24V system. Its a lot of work to convert them to 12V.

4x4dually
03-06-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm not familiar with teh 24V systems...are they on a generator or can they be converted to an alternator?

ACFarmer
03-06-2012, 05:04 PM
Convert it to 12 volt. 24 volt systems are a pain. Take forever to charge the batteries back up during use.

Meyers Farms
03-07-2012, 11:37 AM
I'm not familiar with teh 24V systems...are they on a generator or can they be converted to an alternator?

It's a generator system. I thinks its popular to convert the whole system to 12 volts.

Convert it to 12 volt. 24 volt systems are a pain. Take forever to charge the batteries back up during use.

I'm looking into it but probably will just go ahead and do it.

4x4dually
03-07-2012, 01:21 PM
Yip. Get rid of the generator. That would suck. :D

ARbowhunter7
03-07-2012, 03:22 PM
Yip. Get rid of the generator. That would suck. :D

This. The Gen setup sucks bad. I swapped my 4020 to a 12v system and never looked back.

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zstroken
03-07-2012, 03:33 PM
Wow you don't see the narrow fronts in the large series very often. Dad picked up a 4230 a few years ago that was a narrow front. He actually bought a wide front for the 4230, and put the heavier roll-a-matic front end on his 3020D narrow.

Meyers Farms
03-08-2012, 06:10 AM
Wow you don't see the narrow fronts in the large series very often. Dad picked up a 4230 a few years ago that was a narrow front. He actually bought a wide front for the 4230, and put the heavier roll-a-matic front end on his 3020D narrow.

The narrow fronts definitely aren't as common in the 30 series compared to the 10 and 20 series, but they're out there. The 4010 I have doesn't have the roll-a-matic front end. It just has a solid front end. Was this a factory option? Could you order it this way? Or is it aftermarket?

zstroken
03-08-2012, 06:15 AM
The narrow fronts definitely aren't as common in the 30 series compared to the 10 and 20 series, but they're out there. The 4010 I have doesn't have the roll-a-matic front end. It just has a solid front end. Was this a factory option? Could you order it this way? Or is it aftermarket?


Dad has the 68 3020D and it had a roll-a-matic front end from the factory as far as I know.

Meyers Farms
03-08-2012, 06:18 AM
Yes the roll-a-matic came from the factory and I was wondering if all the narrow fronts got this or if it was an option to not get it?

zstroken
03-08-2012, 06:24 AM
Yes the roll-a-matic came from the factory and I was wondering if all the narrow fronts got this or if it was an option to not get it?


Sorry misunderstood. They were optional as I remember seeing something in the manual describing all three.

Meyers Farms
03-08-2012, 11:24 AM
Anybody have a recommendation on where to buy 12 volt kit? I've found one online for $510. It includes starter, Alternator, battery cables to make batteries work as 12 volt, adapter to put Alternator in generator bracket, and a voltmeter.

Good price? Anything else I should look for in a kit?

Thanks!

99GreenCummins
03-08-2012, 11:35 AM
I would keep with the 24v system personally. Yes it does take some time to get right but I feel that once it is right, it will never let you down. We have a 3010 deere that was converted to a 24v system before we purchased it. It caught fire 4 summers ago after the solenoid stuck and over loaded the wires melting them down...........that will teach you everything about the 24v system. Now my only problem is that my younger brother boiled one of the batteries adn it won't start if it is colder than 50 degrees

Meyers Farms
06-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Got it all wired up except for the lights. I did the 12v conversion and it is working great! The conversion was very straightforward. Cleaned it up and replaced the missing sheet metal, I will get some pictures up soon. She did pretty well in her first pull last weekend! Also I checked on the serial number and it is in fact a 1962 model.

DISTURBED
10-17-2013, 05:05 PM
Reopening

Meyers Farms
10-17-2013, 05:30 PM
It's obviously been awhile since I have updated this thread, but a lot has happened in the past year and four months.

Just a little refresher....
This was my dads tractor until he sold it about ten years ago. I got it back from the local farmer he sold it to. It had been sitting unused it the back of his shop for about two years. I got it home cleaned it up a bit, replaced the missing sheet metal and converted it to a 12 volt system.

That brings us to this spring/summer. I decided that the old 13.6 tires were just too little so I picked up some 18.4 x 38 tires and used rims. Got those installed and the injection pump went out. I replaced the pump and got it running right again. I had some trouble with getting the new pump to run correctly, come to find out the return line was plugged from the seals in the old pump coming apart.

Then I decided to propose to my gf (now my wife) while driving this tractor back in the fields on a picnic. She now calls it the wedding tractor. We both wanted a hayride between our wedding and reception. There was no other tractor in her mind that could fulfill that duty but this 4010. I asked my dad to be the driver and he said he would as long as I made the tractor look good once again. So we got to work.

My dad, a buddy, and I tore the tractor down, cleaned, sanded, prepped, and painted it in time for the wedding. During the tear down I decided to replace the cracked oil pan that had started leaking much worse in the past 6 months. I got the decals put on a week and a half before the wedding.

Now the good part.....pics!

Replacing injection pump
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/E074F4DA-DA02-4459-A9F5-84FFF4BA94B6-4632-00000665EF099588_zps1b74df80.jpg

Swapping rims and tires
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/AD0B0228-09C2-435D-998F-C414B36247A3-4632-0000066638FBA947_zps75f1c698.jpg

Cracked oil pan
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/18EC2BDC-BA63-4898-852B-211F01D61A8C-4632-00000665A295D5A6_zps26d783da.jpg

Buddies son sanding
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/8F24AB25-54D5-4442-AA8E-4D42B87A05EF-4632-000006654CC2681B_zps9d439565.jpg

Prepped
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/B69ABC51-8AED-4C51-B8E0-6FA5EDBEB2C3-4632-000006659183CBDF_zps3d7096dd.jpg
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/56A7CD34-0005-40C8-A3C7-996A96A62132-4632-000006653C3CBE82_zpscc08b98a.jpg

Paint
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/6A492950-DA50-47A1-9F4C-64250F3FCF25-4632-0000066524494534_zps607ac01b.jpg

After
http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/422BB73F-7701-4B0B-8F2A-1176A6FA6BD8-4632-00000664EC1EFD19_zpsefd6dd3f.jpg

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/00294F10-C053-49EF-8FF6-2082F62617C9-4632-0000066514653804_zps81ecafc4.jpg

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/0840BC6D-9251-428D-BC93-E7D2CC365649-4632-00000664E0711B85_zps1a630926.jpg

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg335/sebaldgc/6309DAF2-31C4-4B82-A5AA-9E90C7F17838-4632-0000066503CA0716_zps9150f39d.jpg

RDPsmoker
10-17-2013, 05:53 PM
looks awesome!! Glad you got it back in the family!

Bigphil54
10-17-2013, 05:59 PM
Nice job! That's gonna be something to pass on to your kids for sure! Makes me want to finish the 4020 in my profile picture. It hasn't has sheet metal since we rebuilt the engine back in 09 haha its all been sitting primed in the garage for years. I've always loved the look of the narrow fronts. I'll have to get a 4020 one someday after seeing this all shined up. Congrats on the marriage!

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99GreenCummins
10-17-2013, 06:08 PM
That looks good! We farm with a 3010 nf. I want a 4010/4020 just like that for the extra power.

.......I see a turbo in tractors future?

Meyers Farms
10-17-2013, 06:29 PM
looks awesome!! Glad you got it back in the family!

Thanks!

Nice job! That's gonna be something to pass on to your kids for sure! Makes me want to finish the 4020 in my profile picture. It hasn't has sheet metal since we rebuilt the engine back in 09 haha its all been sitting primed in the garage for years. I've always loved the look of the narrow fronts. I'll have to get a 4020 one someday after seeing this all shined up. Congrats on the marriage!



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Hopefully this gives you some motivation, we all would love to see pics of it painted!

That looks good! We farm with a 3010 nf. I want a 4010/4020 just like that for the extra power.

.......I see a turbo in tractors future?

Thanks! Mine dynoed 103hp before the new pump. I'm curious what she will do now. If definitely love to turbo it, although I'm almost afraid to tear it apart and scratch it! I've pulled 9k farmstock a few times so the turbo would really benefit me.

mfsuper90
10-18-2013, 10:13 PM
Looks exactly like a tractor I pull against. Curve out stack and everything. Only difference is the one that pulls is a gas jobby

Jim Fulmer
10-19-2013, 10:32 PM
So on the 4010 does it have the hidden third reverse in the 4-7 range, a 68' 4020 did that I cut my teeth on.

Jim

zstroken
10-19-2013, 10:34 PM
So on the 4010 does it have the hidden third reverse in the 4-7 range, a 68' 4020 did that I cut my teeth on.

Jim

I think all of the synchro range transmissions have the 3rd reverse. At least all of the ones I have been on did.

99GreenCummins
10-19-2013, 10:40 PM
I think all of the synchro range transmissions have the 3rd reverse. At least all of the ones I have been on did.

I believe so as well. Our 3010 and a dairy farmers 4010 here does.

Bigphil54
10-19-2013, 10:49 PM
Supposedly they have a fourth reverse also. I've never messed with either of our synchro shifts to get into r4 but our one power shift has r1-4

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Jim Fulmer
10-19-2013, 11:41 PM
I think all of the synchro range transmissions have the 3rd reverse. At least all of the ones I have been on did.

I just happened on to it as a young teen in the last 70's, no telling what I was up to then.....probably something stupid!

Jim

zstroken
10-20-2013, 06:20 AM
I just happened on to it as a young teen in the last 70's, no telling what I was up to then.....probably something stupid!

Jim

Lol, I think it was the late 70s when dad bought his 1968 3020d. That was one of the tractors I grew up on. He still has it today.

Meyers Farms
10-20-2013, 02:19 PM
So on the 4010 does it have the hidden third reverse in the 4-7 range, a 68' 4020 did that I cut my teeth on.

Jim

Yep it sure does. Feels like road gear going in reverse that fast!

Jim Fulmer
10-20-2013, 02:24 PM
Yep it sure does. Feels like road gear going in reverse that fast!

If my old memory serves me correctly reverse gear is like the forward in MPH, 1st is 3rd, 2nd is 5th and mystery is 7th. He traded the 4020 off in 1979....showing my age I know!

Jim

Duwem
02-04-2014, 06:38 AM
Nice restoration!

Meyers Farms
02-10-2014, 06:52 PM
If my old memory serves me correctly reverse gear is like the forward in MPH, 1st is 3rd, 2nd is 5th and mystery is 7th. He traded the 4020 off in 1979....showing my age I know!

Jim

Haha you got to spend time on that tractor when it was close to new! I would have loved to see them on dealers lots.

bosshogg
08-09-2014, 01:50 PM
Nice restoration! The 4010 looks great, but I really want the 12 or 1456 in the background of that one pic lol

Meyers Farms
08-09-2014, 03:27 PM
Nice restoration! The 4010 looks great, but I really want the 12 or 1456 in the background of that one pic lol

Thanks! It's a 1256, buddy of mine pulls it in farmstock classes around SW Ohio. I have some better pics of it, I'll have to post them.

ACFarmer
08-11-2014, 12:08 PM
I think he pulled that 1256 last year at Eaton didn't he?

Meyers Farms
08-11-2014, 04:40 PM
I think he pulled that 1256 last year at Eaton didn't he?

Yep, he was busy during Eaton this year though. He's pulled it a few times this summer.