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smokin6bt
09-17-2012, 07:35 PM
Hay guys Im working on doing a 3D design of a 12 valve cummins. Does anyone have pictures of a bare block and head? if they do could you post them? Thanks

SeeYaLater5.9
09-17-2012, 07:52 PM
Haaaaayyyyy

Google images?

smokin6bt
09-17-2012, 08:34 PM
none like I need. I need straight down the front and back as well as straight down from the top of the block.

SeeYaLater5.9
09-17-2012, 08:36 PM
I'm sure there are some on here that have what you need..

What exactly do you need them for again?

smokin6bt
09-17-2012, 10:30 PM
little project. Im making a 3D model of a cummins. need pictures to get some refereces to locations and how everything sits together.

cumminsman315
09-17-2012, 10:42 PM
I have a commonrail apart right now if you want pictures of it

smokin6bt
09-18-2012, 09:03 PM
sure i can use em. can you hold a tape measure out to give me a size est.

HightechRedneck
09-19-2012, 08:20 PM
Tell me exactly what angles you need. I have one on a rotation stand and one on a wheel dolly. Both are complete short blocks. Then I have one head. I want to see this rendering.

smokin6bt
09-20-2012, 04:18 PM
Just straight shots from front,back,left,right,top,bottom. I have a very generic one done so far. I want to add as much detail but cant without picturs to use. also If you have a picture of the front timing cover.

smokin6bt
09-20-2012, 04:59 PM
Like I said rough but its gonna be better with some pictures to work off of

smokin6bt
10-03-2012, 08:37 PM
any pictures of those short blocks?

joefarmer
10-03-2012, 09:36 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cummins+6bt+images

smokin6bt
10-04-2012, 05:44 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cummins+6bt+images

Really dude, like I said before, I spent hours searching and I cant find the pictures I need to make the renderings accurate. I need totally straight on from all sides. :thankyou2:

1-5-3-6-2-4
10-04-2012, 07:20 AM
Like I said rough but its gonna be better with some pictures to work off of

I've got a 6.7 and 12v 5.9 at home in the garage. I could get you some. But I won't be home for 3 weeks yet.

Not to pick down your rough draft but at least set the pistons with their running mate at equal heights, if you're not going to clock them at 120 degree spacing. Looks like snaggletooth pistons.

Lol, just looked at your name pic, I have a piston in my garage as well, that looks just like the one your beside.

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SKYNYRD
10-04-2012, 07:27 AM
If I think about it when I break down my 12v motor, I'll bring it to work and scan it and create a 3D point cloud that will be accurate to couple thousandths of a inch.

AsTroSS
10-04-2012, 09:23 AM
I think I have the Cummins 12V overall drawing in printed format, I can check tomorrow.

Grossihaus
10-04-2012, 11:25 AM
IMHO you can't make a CAD model without having something tangible to measure off of in this case. A general model ain't worth a damn, unless it is for the 'hey look what I did' crowd. You either need dimensioned out prints or a block and head to be able to correctly model it. The model you posted is about a helpful as a cardboard box with 6 pistons sitting inside.$.02

Hurley
10-04-2012, 03:18 PM
haha...too bad the OP can't get the solid models from the Cummins guys

smokin6bt
10-04-2012, 04:29 PM
It would defy the purpose getting the models from cummins. Im doing this as a project for school and to add to my resume. The crank was just a rough. I need to do more research to what the degrees are for the crank and what pistons are paired.

smokin6bt
10-04-2012, 04:31 PM
I've got a 6.7 and 12v 5.9 at home in the garage. I could get you some. But I won't be home for 3 weeks yet.

Not to pick down your rough draft but at least set the pistons with their running mate at equal heights, if you're not going to clock them at 120 degree spacing. Looks like snaggletooth pistons.

Lol, just looked at your name pic, I have a piston in my garage as well, that looks just like the one your beside.

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It was at the trade show in chicago bout a month ago. This was next to it,

joefarmer
10-04-2012, 09:39 PM
Really dude, like I said before, I spent hours searching and I cant find the pictures I need to make the renderings accurate. I need totally straight on from all sides. :thankyou2:

Yes really. See Grossihaus' post. It won't serve any purpose when it's complete.

If I think about it when I break down my 12v motor, I'll bring it to work and scan it and create a 3D point cloud that will be accurate to couple thousandths of a inch.

Now that would be helpful! Would take a lot of cleanup, but it's something that could be modeled.

IMHO you can't make a CAD model without having something tangible to measure off of in this case. A general model ain't worth a damn, unless it is for the 'hey look what I did' crowd. You either need dimensioned out prints or a block and head to be able to correctly model it. The model you posted is about a helpful as a cardboard box with 6 pistons sitting inside.$.02

We think alike. Scary. LOL

I think I have the Cummins 12V overall drawing in printed format, I can check tomorrow.

That would be best. I haven't been able to scrounge up Cummins models in the US.

1-5-3-6-2-4
10-05-2012, 01:59 AM
It would defy the purpose getting the models from cummins. Im doing this as a project for school and to add to my resume. The crank was just a rough. I need to do more research to what the degrees are for the crank and what pistons are paired.


I can save you that time. Pretty much standard for any inline 6 diesel engine.

1 5 3
6 2 4

120 degree crank separation.

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1-5-3-6-2-4
10-05-2012, 02:47 AM
Theres my garage gem. Its a 15" bore piston.


http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/Work%20stuff/Piston.jpg

AsTroSS
10-05-2012, 03:45 AM
http://www.hot.ee/astross//cummins%2012v1.pdf


http://www.hot.ee/astross//cummins%2012v2.pdf

On the corner is also Cummins drawing number, maybe somebody can find it electronic format

smokin6bt
10-05-2012, 08:37 AM
I can save you that time. Pretty much standard for any inline 6 diesel engine.

1 5 3
6 2 4

120 degree crank separation.

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Awesome thank you.