New shop being built

[bradley59dzl]

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This was the progress from fri and sat.
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[jkretzer]

Looks great. It is a good feeling isnt it.

[bradley59dzl]

Looks great. It is a good feeling isnt it.

Sure is! Cannot wait for it to be done.

[jkretzer]

I cant wait for mine to b done either. Money just doesnt come n fast enough. Pouring my concrete next week. At least then i can use it since i finally got the metal roof on.

[bradley59dzl]

What size are you building?

[bradley59dzl]

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[srt cummins]

Why wood and not metal?

[bradley59dzl]

Why wood and not metal?
Easier to finish inside and insulate, Cheaper, and I like the looks over the all steel. The roof and sides will be steel.

[Larson24]

Looks awesome!

[bradley59dzl]

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[nwpadmax]

Looks great.

Typical of western PA, though, 1800 sq ft house in the front, 3600 sq ft shop in the back!! Gotta get your priorities right!!

[bradley59dzl]

Looks great.

Typical of western PA, though, 1800 sq ft house in the front, 3600 sq ft shop in the back!! Gotta get your priorities right!!

I never felt the need for a big fancy house. I only eat and sleep in the house. I spend 8-14 hrs a day in my shop. Cant wait for it to be finished though.

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What Size is the Shop?

I hope to get mine started this week?

[bradley59dzl]

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[bradley59dzl]

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[nwpadmax]

I never felt the need for a big fancy house. I only eat and sleep in the house. I spend 8-14 hrs a day in my shop. Cant wait for it to be finished though.

Don't think I'm poking fun at ya, my original concept when I was just out of college was a 50' x 200' with a camper parked inside....

...Future wife wasn't down with it though....

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What Size is the Shop?

I hope to get mine started this week?

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Sorry I didn't read the first line...LOL

Looks good so far!

[morkable]

I am going to build a shop at some point this year (same as everyone, depends on the money flow)

My question is, what are the pros and cons of doing a pole shed as opposed to the stick built way?

[bradley59dzl]

I am going to build a shop at some point this year (same as everyone, depends on the money flow)

My question is, what are the pros and cons of doing a pole shed as opposed to the stick built way?

Cheaper, and id have to say faster and stronger but I could be wrong.

[4x4dually]

My question is, what are the pros and cons of doing a pole shed as opposed to the stick built way?

I like the prefabbed steel ones myself. Everything comes pre-drilled, all hardware is included, and a set of dwgs. Just start throwing it up. $.02

I like your new wood one too. :D

[WUnderwood]

Looks awesome... I wish I had that next to my house

[morkable]

Cheaper, and id have to say faster and stronger but I could be wrong.

One thing I can see is definately faster... what about insulation? We get a little cold here in the winter, so insulation is a must.. one thing that I can see that would be a huge advantage for me would be the quickness of getting it up

I like the prefabbed steel ones myself. Everything comes pre-drilled, all hardware is included, and a set of dwgs. Just start throwing it up. $.02

I like your new wood one too. :D

One downfall to metal is the purchase cost,, and then the pain in the but of insulation, among other things

[4x4dually]

One downfall to metal is the purchase cost,, and then the pain in the but of insulation, among other things

Cost..true. Insulation....nah, ain't bad. No termites or water damage though. :D

[bradley59dzl]

I priced spray on insulation, roughly 12k. I'm just going to run 8' wide rolls of insulation with the heavy white backing like they use on the steel buildings. I will be putting steel on the inside walls and ceiling then i will blow in insulation in the ceiling. A steel building this size was double in cost and that is with a 1.12 or 2.12 pitch roof. Also it would screw me up with bay spacing unless I wanted to spend a lot mor money.. I like the looks of the 1' over hangs and I feel it will fit better beings close to my house.

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[Chucky797]

Shop is looking good. What's the size on it? Do you have any completed pictures of it?

[bradley59dzl]

Shop is looking good. What's the size on it? Do you have any completed pictures of it?

50x72x16 Still in the process of building. Garage doors will be here next week and I'm re-steeling the old garage to match the new one. Ill get some more pics over the weekend.

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[bradley59dzl]

Going to re-steel the old garage roof this weekend and hoping to re- steel the sides next weekend so it will all match.

[2000_fummins]

Damn looks like you'll get it done before winter brad at this rate.

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[Mopar1973]

What is total investment in this project of yours? (if you don't mind me asking)

[bradley59dzl]

New building turn key(concrete, finished interior walls, Lights, electric, heated floor(already have outdoor wood stove for the BTU's), and a/c)without any equipment around 75k. Refinishing old building and lean-to of the back roughly 7,500. That is with me and buddies doing all the work with the exception of a neighbor which I gave him A 2000 Harley Duece to over see and help with this project. He is also going to do the addition and 28x38 garage off the house. So all in all I made out mighty well.

[bradley59dzl]

Finally got doors up.

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[jimbo486]

Fukin' spammers.

Good looking and good sized structure you've got going up! Sure wish I had the cash and space to do something a quarter of that size haha.

[bradley59dzl]

Thanks. I cant wait to be finished but looks like it will be done some time in the spring.

[bradley59dzl]

Well shop took the back burner after had a house fire early 2014. We did manage to get some done.5502955030550315503255033

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[bradley59dzl]

Concrete Sat. morning. Finally!!

[4x4dually]

Need me some of them anchors. Those are cool.

[bradley59dzl]

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[bradley59dzl]

Need me some of them anchors. Those are cool.

Nice thing is those can be installed after concrete at any time.

[Red Sleeper]

In post #41, last 4 pictures. Why the trough in the floor?
Dyno?

[bradley59dzl]

In post #41, last 4 pictures. Why the trough in the floor?
Dyno?

Yes, dyno.

[straight 6 roar]

So is this a diesel performance shop or all kinds of cars? Any worries of people around your home all the time?

[bradley59dzl]

So is this a diesel performance shop or all kinds of cars? Any worries of people around your home all the time?

Do all kinds of work. Actually started out as a part time Off-road Motorsports after my full time job as shop supervisor at trucking company. Got fed up six years ago and quit. Started working on a little bit of everything but now mostly diesel repair and light performance work. As far as people being around all the time, including Sunday, yes! Some people are relentless! For the most part I really enjoy it. If that was what you were asking.

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[rgullett83]

Very nice! I so wish I would have taken more time on mine. I just wanted it done, and didn't really think the layout through

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[Ram12vcummins]

I think I'd choose stick frame over pole but nice shop can't wait to see it finished. Wish I had the cash to start something like that.

[bradley59dzl]

Very nice! I so wish I would have taken more time on mine. I just wanted it done, and didn't really think the layout through

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Thanks. There are many things I would have done differently also. That's how it goes though.

[bradley59dzl]

I think I'd choose stick frame over pole but nice shop can't wait to see it finished. Wish I had the cash to start something like that.

The reason I went this way was because it is attached to my old shop. It is a pole-building and was already on property when I purchased. Starting from scratch I would have done a block foundation for sure.

[Ram12vcummins]

The reason I went this way was because it is attached to my old shop. It is a pole-building and was already on property when I purchased. Starting from scratch I would have done a block foundation for sure.


Ya that makes sense. Anything you would do different don't be afraid to post as i will be building in a year or so hopefully. Just not the size you are and looking for any advice and ideas. Looking good though.

[bradley59dzl]

Ya that makes sense. Anything you would do different don't be afraid to post as i will be building in a year or so hopefully. Just not the size you are and looking for any advice and ideas. Looking good though.

Would went a little longer and put more space between doors, Lean-to or separate Dyno area, or take out first bay closest to old shop make that for working area and made the rest with door on each side to have two lifts per one bay. Just to name a few, lol. My original plans was 50x100 but I just didn't have room. The left side of garage has a large rapid drop off. Plans were to make it same concrete height as old shop but just wasn't feasible as we already had to put over a foot of fill on that side of shop.

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[straight 6 roar]

Looks awesome man. That in floor heating is great, it was even nice in Arizona where we'd only have a couple weeks of nights in the teens so I'm sure it'll be a godsend for PA winters.

[bradley59dzl]

Looks awesome man. That in floor heating is great, it was even nice in Arizona where we'd only have a couple weeks of nights in the teens so I'm sure it'll be a godsend for PA winters.

Yea, cant wait to try it out.

[Broaner]

Wow this is amazing. Maybe some day. I figure I've got about 40 years to try something this awesome.

[bradley59dzl]

Wow this is amazing. Maybe some day. I figure I've got about 40 years to try something this awesome.

Do it as young as you can so its paid for and you can enjoy it. I am hoping to be done this winter/spring which puts this as a 3yr project but it has been pay as I go. So when its done I can fill it up and not have to worry about paying for it.

[Broaner]

Good plan! I'm hoping to be doing something 1/3 this scale by the time I'm 35. I got 7 years... :Cheer:

[RockinRam96]

I like the radiant floor heating. If i ever get to build a shop that is the only type of heat I will use. Is there a spec on how close or far apart the piping has to be? It looks to me like there is no rhyme or reason to your piping. Not that I am knocking, just curious.

I would just think lay it one direction spaced every 12"-16" like studs would be sufficient? Maybe I'm wrong.

[bradley59dzl]

I like the radiant floor heating. If i ever get to build a shop that is the only type of heat I will use. Is there a spec on how close or far apart the piping has to be? It looks to me like there is no rhyme or reason to your piping. Not that I am knocking, just curious.

I would just think lay it one direction spaced every 12"-16" like studs would be sufficient? Maybe I'm wrong.

6" of the outside wall then 12" apart after that. Runs of 1/2" pex should not be longer then 300'. That is the reason for the runs the way they are. They make a program to figure out how to run it to have equal amount of feet in each run.

[RockinRam96]

6" of the outside wall then 12" apart after that. Runs of 1/2" pex should not be longer then 300'. That is the reason for the runs the way they are. They make a program to figure out how to run it to have equal amount of feet in each run.


So how do you connect all of those loose ends? Have some sort of distribution header and a return header?


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My bad I saw this but didn't look to closely at it to see it was a header.


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[not enoughsmoke]

looks great! i am slowly getting my shop squared away too

[bradley59dzl]

looks great! i am slowly getting my shop squared away too


Thanks. As the saying goes, "when you have time you have no money, when you have money you have no time"!
Now onto insulating and drywalling bathroom, office and entry way.
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[not enoughsmoke]

Thanks. As the saying goes, "when you have time you have no money, when you have money you have no time"!
Now onto insulating and drywalling bathroom, office and entry way.
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that is very true i usually don't ever have time lol

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Insulating and framing walls for the liner panel. I scored 200 sheets of free 2" foam board so installing it before the fiberglass insulation for a total of R27 value int the walls!


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[malibu795]

Very nice. Sucks about the house fire

[bradley59dzl]

Very nice. Sucks about the house fire

Thanks. Could have been a lot worse. Still here and most of our belongings.

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[rgullett83]

Looking good!

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[bradley59dzl]

Finally on the home stretch. I opted for 4' T-5 6 bulb fixtures. Ended getting them for $83 a piece with bulbs @ BADWLighting.com

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[malibu795]

Looks good brad. What's the Cooper pipe for

[bradley59dzl]

Looks good brad. What's the Cooper pipe for

Thank you! Boiler system that will heat the new shop floor, the parts room floor, a hanging Reznor unit in the old shop and baseboard in office and entryway.

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[dixon700]

Awesome shop build.

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Damn would you look at the empty Liquor bottles.

[Red Sleeper]

Nice lights!

[bradley59dzl]

Nice lights!



Thanks. I think it's bright enough. I was going to go LED but wasn't worth it when figuring price vs electric savings.


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[Meyers Farms]

Damn would you look at the empty Liquor bottles.

My first thought as well! The shop looks like it's coming along very nicely.

[mfsuper90]

Thanks. I think it's bright enough. I was going to go LED but wasn't worth it when figuring price vs electric savings.


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You can always replace the bulbs with LED replacements. They are much more cost effective than a led strip light

[Red Sleeper]

Thanks. I think it's bright enough. I was going to go LED but wasn't worth it when figuring price vs electric savings.


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I've run those exact same numbers. Are those T8 high output or something? Can't remember my own research.

Also, we do a fair amount of painting and fluorescent has always been the light of choice for body shops. I just wonder if LED lights will give you that gleam needed for painting, color sanding, and buffing.

[bradley59dzl]

You can always replace the bulbs with LED replacements. They are much more cost effective than a led strip light

Yea that's my plans for old shop.

[bradley59dzl]

I've run those exact same numbers. Are those T8 high output or something? Can't remember my own research.

Also, we do a fair amount of painting and fluorescent has always been the light of choice for body shops. I just wonder if LED lights will give you that gleam needed for painting, color sanding, and buffing.

These are actually T5 High output only 5/8" in Dia. I have yet to be in a working shop with full LED's so Im not sure either.

[bradley59dzl]

Damn would you look at the empty Liquor bottles.

I just collect them.....

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Parts room buttoned up.
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[97crewcab]

Looks good! I wish I had my steel on my walls and ceiling. Hopefully in the next couple months.

I ended up with similar insulation except mine is 5" foam in 4'x4' sheets and I will not have any other fill.

I am doing all LEDs in mine. We will see how it looks. The nice thing about the LED high bay fixtures is that they are dimmable. I will be able to put plenty of light out there, and dim it down depending on the situation.

[bradley59dzl]

Looks good! I wish I had my steel on my walls and ceiling. Hopefully in the next couple months.

I ended up with similar insulation except mine is 5" foam in 4'x4' sheets and I will not have any other fill.

I am doing all LEDs in mine. We will see how it looks. The nice thing about the LED high bay fixtures is that they are dimmable. I will be able to put plenty of light out there, and dim it down depending on the situation.
Thanks. All takes time. Quality Led pixtures were 3X the price of these T-5's. I can also turn on 2,4, or all 6 bulbs in each fixture.

[Big05RME]

That shop is nice! I'm jealous

[displacedtexan]

That shop is nice! I'm jealous

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[95cummins5.9]

5 Posts in under an hour?

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That was fast.

[bradley59dzl]

Figured new shop almost done, time to start another project. Bought building down the road from me.

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[Meyers Farms]

What's the plans for this building?

[bradley59dzl]

What's the plans for this building?

Not Real sure at the moment. Kicking around either body shop or buying a few CNC machines and having A few buddies jump ship from where they work now.

[bradley59dzl]

Finally got the drop ceiling in the office.

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[J-Pipes]

I really like that^

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[Meyers Farms]

Beats the hell out of regular ceiling tiles.

[bradley59dzl]

Yea I had to do a drop ceiling with all my heat/AC running over head. I really like it. Turned out good and it's different


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[bradley59dzl]

New air line going up. Rapid Air system.
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[bradley59dzl]

Also bought a couple new toys. Haven’t even fired them up yet.
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[not enoughsmoke]

Any updates on the shop?

[bradley59dzl]

Not to much. Hung some airline. Finally working out of it though. Soon as weather breaks hoping to get a 16x72 lean-to off the back out up.
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[not enoughsmoke]

wow its looking really nice how did you like the Rapid-air air line kit i am looking at the max line air system for mine

[bradley59dzl]

wow its looking really nice how did you like the Rapid-air air line kit i am looking at the max line air system for mine



Love it! Looks nice and neat. Super easy and fast to install. Northern tool is the cheapest i found.


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[bradley59dzl]

I still have to get hose reals. Having hard time buying cheapos even though my old shop has had them for years. Really wanted Reelcrafts, but they are pricey!


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[not enoughsmoke]

Love it! Looks nice and neat. Super easy and fast to install. Northern tool is the cheapest i found.


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I was thinking so too did you get everything from northern tool store or online
we have Reelcrafts at work and i hate them i think they are junk IMO
I prefer the Lincoln Lubrication ones

[bradley59dzl]

I was thinking so too did you get everything from northern tool store or online

we have Reelcrafts at work and i hate them i think they are junk IMO

I prefer the Lincoln Lubrication ones



I ordered everything right from northerns website. I ordered 19’ foot sticks so they come freight.


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[not enoughsmoke]

I ordered everything right from northerns website. I ordered 19’ foot sticks so they come freight.


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well it looks awesome i probably go with the Maxline setup

[bradley59dzl]

Made steel tops for benches.
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[bradley59dzl]

All ready plan on a 18x72 lean-to addition off the back of the new shop starting in the spring. Just not enough room.
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[Red Sleeper]

Looks like if it wasn’t for Ford, you wouldn’t need the shop at all.

All kidding aside, it’s a damn nice setup. Very clean and organized.