Dodge 1500 EcoDiesel

[wideopen]

I'd sure like have one!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-rated-at-28mpg.html

[cummins cowboy]

I'm excited to see how well they run and if the motors hold up. Would like to trade the wifes car in on one if they turn out to be decent.

[Striper]

I've been thinking of trading in my 03 and my TDI for one. I'll give it some time first. Sure is tempting though.

[Ghostman]

Who knows about the new engine? Is it any good?


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[torqueofthetown]

Who knows about the new engine? Is it any good?

This engine has been in the Jeep GC and the Chrysler 300 in the European union for several years and my understanding is that its a very dependable engine over there. IMHO, the only real unknown is if the US spec emission controls will be dependable or not.

[Ghostman]

Yeah leave it up to our emissions to screw it up. Isn't 28 MPG good enough?? Geez.


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[will24]

I'm more excited about the Diesel Colorado and canyon coming out in the fall, 28mpg on a 4x4 truck seems amazing!

[will24]

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49489&stc=1&d=1392906524

[wideopen]

I agree! Is the Colorado a Sure thing?

[torqueofthetown]

1500 RAM EPA mileage ratings

2WD 20 city 23 combined 28 hwy

4WD 19 city 22 combined 27 hwy


Only one mpg lost for 4wd, thats impressive.

[torqueofthetown]

I agree! Is the Colorado a Sure thing?

From the Chevrolet website

Expected to provide unprecedented towing, payload and power, Colorado will offer advanced 2.5L I-4 and 3.6L V6 engines at launch. Joining the engine lineup in 2015: the highly anticipated 2.8L Duramax® Turbo-Diesel. No other current North American competitor in this class offers a turbo-diesel. But no matter which engine you choose, impressive performance and remarkable efficiency ride shotgun on every trip.

http://www.chevrolet.com/2015-colorado-small-truck.html

What I've read about the Colorado is that there will be no regular cab offered. :(

[inline6359]

From the Chevrolet website



http://www.chevrolet.com/2015-colorado-small-truck.html

What I've read about the Colorado is that there will be no regular cab offered. :(

Dosent look like a regular cab 1500 will be an option either with the diesel.

[Striper]

Dosent look like a regular cab 1500 will be an option either with the diesel.

It is available with the RCLB. Not available with the RCSB.

[mikmaze]

I wonder if green diesel engineering will have a tune for this, they offer tunes for other VM's

[Timbeaux]

I'm gonna have one... or the other... or both?

[will24]

I'm gonna have one... or the other... or both?

hahaha, I like the way you think! I have weird thoughts of a decked out little crew cab Colorado with a healthy FPE EFIlive tune on it...

[ARbowhunter7]

Who knows about the new engine? Is it any good?


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I've talked with a guy that's wrenched on a few...apparently the bottom end is pretty stout.


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[Ghostman]

I've talked with a guy that's wrenched on a few...apparently the bottom end is pretty stout.


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That's the kind of info I'm talking about. Good to know. My wife is wanting a jeep GC so I might get the diesel option.


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[torqueofthetown]

These little 3.0's have all the right parts

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1208dp_banks_vm_motori_630t_v6_diesel_engine/

I believe the only banks engine parts are the intake and the turbo...... the rest is all VM Motori.

[mikmaze]

hmm, interesting, the way the block is laid out there are three possible locations to mount the cp4... or you could mount one in all three locations, hello fuel!

[dixon700]

I'm thinking stock numbers were mid 200 ' s hp and mid 400 ' s torque for the us version. Like said above either diesel would be nice to have. I kind of like the little Colorado idea. From what I've seen they're tough little trucks.

[cthomp81]

here's some chips that is use on that motor

Racechip
Steinbauer
Bluespark

[Zspires94]

Hmmm did anyone see the gear selector in the pictures? Kinda odd

[Rockwerx]

Hmmm did anyone see the gear selector in the pictures? Kinda odd

I agree. I do not like the thought process on this. It is easier to just bump a lever to take it out of gear and go into neutral during an emergency situation.

[SHughes]

It is available with the RCLB. Not available with the RCSB.

When I was looking at ordering one, the dealer said they were not going to put in at regular cab at all. Things do change though.

Edit, they tried to tell me it was do to wheelbase...I asked which is longer the Grand Cherokee or the RCSB, he then said he had no idea why. LOL Just that he couldn't order it.

[Striper]

Does anyone have any thoughts on the air ride suspension option for the 1500? Is it a worthwhile option?

[SHughes]

It is another option they will not put on a RCSB.

I pooped today!!!!!

[cummins cowboy]

One of the dealers here told me they have some coming in about 6 weeks. Definitely going to go drive one when they hit the lot. Sounds like they would make a great daily driver and grocery getter. Sounds like much of a load kills the fuel economy unfortunately and wouldnt be the best choice for much heavy hauling. The sales guys that test drove one told me that they were getting 34 mpg cruising at 65-70 on the freeway but when they hit the rolling hills it dropped to 24 on the instant mpg readout. My truck doesn't even notice the hills on that stretch of the freeway.

[randomid25]

When I was looking at ordering one, the dealer said they were not going to put in at regular cab at all. Things do change though.

Edit, they tried to tell me it was do to wheelbase...I asked which is longer the Grand Cherokee or the RCSB, he then said he had no idea why. LOL Just that he couldn't order it.

According to all the press releases I have read, it will be available in a regular cab. Maybe no short bed though. The reg cabs are supposed to be built in Saltillo Mexico at the same plant as the HD are built.

[oldestof11]

Reg cab long bed is the smallest it comes.

[Striper]

Has anyone driven a gasser with the air ride?

[SHughes]

According to all the press releases I have read, it will be available in a regular cab. Maybe no short bed though. The reg cabs are supposed to be built in Saltillo Mexico at the same plant as the HD are built.

I read all the same press releases. I'm simply stating my experience trying to order a truck from October to December of last year. That is what the local dealership told me after he had done some research. Things may have changed since then as well.

[oldestof11]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/01/amuqu9up.jpg

Their website. That's a RCLB tradesman 2wd. RCSB does not have the option.

[SHughes]

Like I said, things change. LOL

[randomid25]

I read all the same press releases. I'm simply stating my experience trying to order a truck from October to December of last year. That is what the local dealership told me after he had done some research. Things may have changed since then as well.

Yep, I tried building a rcsb on ram's website. No dice...

[bentone6.7]

I'm pretty sure you can get a regular cab long bed but has to be an SLT or Big Horn I believe. I just got a new quad short big horn 1500 diesel and my wife took it from me already... Damn.

[Red_Rattler]

Every option known to man at a price of 55k...... :bang

[dodgecowboy]

^^ where did you find one? out here they are sold before they hit the lot!

[diesel_importer]

There are a couple here at local dealer

[tatersalad]

i test drove one about a week ago.. I must say I way impressed. it was the Laramie package with sunroof and everything available as well. I did hate the gear selector. but you can manually upshift and downshift by the buttons on the back of steering wheel if you want. as far as power and torque the truck wasn't a slouch by any means, had good power ( could always use more ) but I did feel some hesitations in shifting in a couple of the lower gears like it needs retuned.. and lastly the MPG dash meter was reading right at 26-29 on the highway doing 72mph and right at 30-32doing 45-55 in town. so if I didn't have a use for a 3/4 ton and had an extra $53,501 including TTL n plates then id pick one up.

[coorsman2005]

has anyone heard of anyone figuring out how to shut down the emissions on these new trucks. im debating trading the wifes Tahoe off on one. but if I cant do the deletes I don't want it. im sure some of you feel the same.

[diesel_importer]

Not really. If it get mid 20's, why would you want to mess with it? At least while it's under warranty. It's a little different on trucks getting 10-12 mpg with solid engines we've dealt with. But on an engine I know very little about, if leave it alone.

[coorsman2005]

Well really didn't think about this being a new engine to us. I understand where you come from on that. I just know how us diesel guys are hell if it runs this. Good. What will this and this do haha. But I am on a list here for them to call me when they get one in. So we will we what happens. And what kind of deal they will give me on my wifes tahoe.

[druk]

It sucks you cant get one with a manual trans, or ECLB

[SmokeShow]

Saw one in person for the first time tonight. So quiet. He turned away from & I couldn't even hear it when he accelerated away. I like it!

[okie18]

Real living proof of a regular cab. Was a slt or a tradesman, cant remember.
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[diesel_importer]

Pretty sure it has to be at least SLT. I couldn't keep one under 40k unless it was single cab with no extras.

[Mooner1]

We'll I took the plunge. Got one ordered & cool thing is that because they are selling every one that they can build and also because they are around 8 weeks or so out on orders I didn't have to lay any money down...yet. Build date is supposedly 7/30. Gonna be my work truck (oilfield service/pumper) so it is a QCSB tradesman. Kept it pretty basic to keep the cost down & for durability out in the field. I did opt for a few things though ram-boxes,alum wheels,skid plates,block heater,limited slip,cloth seats & fancy radio/bluetoof. Oh, and the Black Gold paint...had to have that. Haha! You can option them just about any way you want, you just have to be willing to put in the time when "building" it and figure out the sequence that will work/makes computer happy. It will piss you off. For instance, you can option for the ram-box at any trim level but you have to click on that box first & it is down towards the bottom of that build page. Also the computer will start pulling options (based on weight I believe) as you go along so you have to find and option for the bigger and heavier items you really want first and then backtrack for the little bells & whistles it will let you have...Ram's build page is kinda bass awards IMO. I showed a local Dodge/Ram dealer that trick when they told me I couldn't have a tradesman with the ram-boxes..was kinda fun to see that "eureka!" moment. That being said there are a few little weird things you will find you can't get with this option or that. I couldn't get the 3.92 gears or the on/off road tires with my build. But I figure with an 8spd tranny surely 3.55's will do and the the factory tires won't do me much good out here anyway. Gettin' exited!

[Big Swole]

I sure would like to drive one to see how the power is..

Been considering selling my 2500...

[diesel_importer]

Mind telling us how much? I didn't think you could get one in a tradesman......

[Mooner1]

Sorry, was doin the fam thing here this weekend & unplugged for a bit. Dealer quoted me a price of around $42k before any incentives, rebates etc... They said they could probably go $38ish k which is where truecar.com placed the price for a good deal. Prt cool site there. I really think a stripped down RCLB could be had for around $30k. I saw one for sale online in PA for $29-$30k and it was a crew cab tradesman..my dealer assured me it was to good to be true lol.

[torqueofthetown]

Real living proof of a regular cab. Was a slt or a tradesman, cant remember.
52182

RCLB yes, RCSB no
I'd own a RCSB if they sold one.

Pretty sure it has to be at least SLT. I couldn't keep one under 40k unless it was single cab with no extras.

The Ecodiesel can be ordered with a work truck. On the Ram website, I can build a RCLB tradesman with an MSRP of $31k and change.

[okie18]

Yeah, just posted it up cause there was doubt when these first came out that it wouldn't be offered in anything but a loaded out crew cab. The rcsb would be a nice fuel saver though.

[coorsman2005]

Going to drive one Friday can't wait to trade the wife's Tahoe in

[coorsman2005]

Just got done driving one. It was a Laramie Crew cab. The power is all there 56k. I couldn't swing that though so I'm going after a tradesman with the goodies. I'm. Looking around 37k. So we will find out Monday what happens. Whats the best prices. You guys have got them down too

[diesel_importer]

I've been trying to talk my boss into getting one for a parts runner/ light tech work truxk

[coorsman2005]

Wow David Stanley dodge in okc are a bunch of scam artists. Wouldn't even tell me what I was getting for my trade or what I was giving for the truck. So I walked out. Just waiting for Monday now with the other dealer ships.

[ben]

Picked it up today.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/pdltrk/2014%20EcoDiesel/090D166B-F058-4035-B78C-FC01B01F6587_zps14vwcadd.jpg

On the way home cruise set at 65.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/pdltrk/2014%20EcoDiesel/A8F34319-41CE-4EB3-98A3-B7361A6A5CC3_zpsy8gyh5tw.jpg

Great truck!!! Thoroughly happy with it.

I now have two complete polar opposite diesels.

One that ear plugs are a good idea if you are driving for any periods of time and another that the only way you know it's running is when you're moving.

[diesel_importer]

Awesome! Let us know what kind of mileage it gets. HAND CALCULATED

[revolutiondsl]

At least your listening to a good channel on the satellite radio.

[ben]

Awesome! Let us know what kind of mileage it gets. HAND CALCULATED

This was the fuel gauge after 16x mile ride home. Dealership filled it up and needle was not past full mark.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/pdltrk/2014%20EcoDiesel/866ECF97-3640-4B36-BB26-9BC65452ACA9_zpsthbohfng.jpg

I'll be tickled with mid 20's hand calc. Speedo was dead on with GPS.

At least your listening to a good channel on the satellite radio.

Brietbart and Wilkow for the ride home.

[BgBlDodge]

Hopefully these things hold up and last. Definitely going to keep my eye on these things.

[revolutiondsl]

I heard the grand Cherokees with the diesels were expensive to maintain. I read on a forum somewhere but maybe someone else can chime in.

[Mountainman234]

Bear in mind that the "expensive to maintain" comment is coming from fellas that are use to the cheap maintenance of spark engines. There is a large population of people that can't see past how expensive an oil change is. I'm sure that this engine doesn't require much different maintenance then any other diesel engine running today.

[Lucky Jeff]

A friend of mine just came home with one last week. He's been searching the NW for a while. Finally had to drive down to Oregon to pick one up. Fully loaded crew cab SB in white. It's at the paint shop right now getting silver added to the bottom portion so I wasn't able to check it out. He loves pretty much everything about it so far. He's a die hard Chevy guy. Cars, trucks, SUV's, sports cars etc have always been Chevy (He goes through cars on a regular basis). He made the jump after driving another friends just once. His only complaint is a hesitation between 1-2k (turbo lag I assume). No idea if there is any kind of programming out there yet to help that out any.

[Chris Tobin]

A friend of mine just came home with one last week. He's been searching the NW for a while. Finally had to drive down to Oregon to pick one up. Fully loaded crew cab SB in white. It's at the paint shop right now getting silver added to the bottom portion so I wasn't able to check it out. He loves pretty much everything about it so far. He's a die hard Chevy guy. Cars, trucks, SUV's, sports cars etc have always been Chevy (He goes through cars on a regular basis). He made the jump after driving another friends just once. His only complaint is a hesitation between 1-2k (turbo lag I assume). No idea if there is any kind of programming out there yet to help that out any.

I haven't driven one yet, but my guess would be the lag is an attempt at controlling emissions/smoke and keeping the tranny happy... No real reason for a modern VGT diesel to have lag...

[ben]

Well,

I filled the truck up today for the first time and a few observations.

1. The truck was not fully filled up from the dealer like they said. When I left the dealer the needle was on the full mark.

After filling up today, needle was past full mark. Oh well.

2. After back and forth to work a few times this past week and running around town the EVIC average mileage was reading 25.7 mpg.

3. Here's the interesting part. I reset the trip meter at the dealer on what I "thought" was a topped off tank.

I had 262 miles on the trip meter this morning at the pump. The truck took 10.3 gallons to pump shutoff. Hand calculated 25.4 mpg.

So, in all actuality the truck did better than 25.4 mpg. The next fill up will tell.

I also have noticed the lag off the bottom and hopefully that will just be throttle learning curve.

I will admit that I was taken back by the hydraulic hose end gas cap and having to use the little funnel when putting in anything in the filler hole aside from the fuel pump.

Still thoroughly tickled with the truck and feel it will be a fantastic road tripper. My main reason for purchasing this.

[torqueofthetown]

interesting....... seems like a blowby to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCX0M98BQ2g

[06 DIESEL]

Hmm, seems like a catch can would have been added from the factory since he is getting that much per week. But that being said, very few properly maintain their vehicles anymore, if there was a catch can you had to empty every 1000 miles or something like that no one would do it.

[will24]

interesting....... seems like a blowby to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCX0M98BQ2g

Just like a 6.0, or TDI, or dmax, or most other diesels with closed crankcase ventilation... it makes a mess for sure

[diesel_importer]

yea, when you tear down a d-max for the first time, you'll about sh!t yourself.

[97rada]

I would say that a ccv filter that drains back to the block would help with that. Never liked the vent to the turbo


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[Big Blue24]

My 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel with the 3.0 Mercedes motor "had" the same problem because the factory setup routed crank case gases to the inlet of the turbo.

Some add a catch can and keep the inlet in-tact, some add a draft tube and let the gasses vent to atmosphere: Elephant Hose Mod.

One the Mercedes, if you keep the factory setup long term, the Charge Air Cooler will eventually get 1-2 quarts of oil built up in the bottom and lower cooler efficiency, I imagine if things went on for several hundred thousand miles, you could get enough oil for a short term run-away.

Easy to modify and add a catch can or draft tube.

[Lucky Jeff]

Roger just claimed 28 on the trip to my brothers wedding. I can't see it being too far off a hand calculated figure. But I'll have to see if he has done that yet. If that's the case, those things are getting REALLY tempting...

[BigJoeDiesel74]

I've been debating getting one of these... 60 miles a day for work is killing me at 12mpg.

[BgBlDodge]

You do realize that that's only roughly $250/month in savings right? Not nearly enough to offset the payment. Unless you pay cash and then maybe it's worth it.

[06 DIESEL]

Unless he has a payment now that would be equal to what the new truck would cost.

[Big Swole]

interesting....... seems like a blowby to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCX0M98BQ2g

Interesting... and concerning.

[BigJoeDiesel74]

I won't have a payment at all. They will match the difference with me on any trade in over $30k KBB value....

[BgBlDodge]

In that case what are you waiting on LOL

[Apmaw55]

I've been debating getting one of these... 60 miles a day for work is killing me at 12mpg.

Dam. I drive 45 miles one way and it kills me also. A guy from work just bought a ecodiesel. He loves it. He said he's getting 28 it's a 2 wheel drive. Nice truck!

[bayouboy22]

Dam. I drive 45 miles one way and it kills me also. A guy from work just bought a ecodiesel. He loves it. He said he's getting 28 it's a 2 wheel drive. Nice truck!

I know the feeling.

I know a guy with a sportsman edition 4x4 getting 24. Thats the real deal

[Morfael]

I've been trying to talk my dad into one. Haven't quite yet. I test drove one a few weeks ago though just for fun... I was seriously tempted for myself... if I didn't tow quite so heavy...

[Newdieselguy]

Cummins-Tunner.com should be starting to play with tuning on these, incase anybody was wondering.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=703796933027271&id=146101792130124

[oldestof11]

Cummins-Tunner.com should be starting to play with tuning on these, incase anybody was wondering.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=703796933027271&id=146101792130124


So will it now be Eco-tuner? Or Ram1500-tuner? Or VM-tuner?

[Newdieselguy]

Little update

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=734048873335410&id=146101792130124

[78cumminscrew]

I want one of these Eco diesel rams. Test drove a grand Cherokee with the diesel option-definitely had torque on demand-love to see what these things can do all modded and tuned

[therabbittree]

I'd like one in a 2500 chassis to get a 8 foot bed
5'7" and 6.4" is kinda silly for a truck. Just about useless.

[SmokeShow]

Where could I find a high mileage used one? Like a traveling salesmanship truck after he's done with it after a year? That's be the only chance I'd even remotely be able to afford one is if it's about 2/3 the cost of new. :)

[06 DIESEL]

I need the few of you that have these to let me know how they are holding up. I am seriously considering selling my Jetta and my Jeep and getting one of the 1500 RCLB diesels. There are a few leftover 2014 models that are close enough to what I want that I can justify saving the money on it vs a new 2015. I might stop in at the dealer and see what they can do tonight on my way home. I have a buyer for the Jetta already, and the Jeep I have one lined up I think.

[Cummins610]

There's been a few software updates, some cracked exhaust manifolds and some people having def issues. Seems to all matter on your dealer to how well issues are managed. I've heard parts are tough to get right now for trucks with the above problems.

[06 DIESEL]

Well I am going to have to look into it some more for sure. I average about 1000 miles a week just going to work and back, so it will not take any time to get way more miles on it than "average".

[Cummins610]

Well I am going to have to look into it some more for sure. I average about 1000 miles a week just going to work and back, so it will not take any time to get way more miles on it than "average".


I would wager that you would be less prone to issues, the more regular miles the better for emission diesels

[5.9cummins06]

I have one! And I absolutely love it! Very first Tank averaged 28 mpg, sitting in the 20-25 range now that winter has set in with colder temps and more idle time. No issues for me yet.

[SmokeShow]

So much envy. What cab config & 2wd or 4wd? Mind saying what you paid for it?

[5.9cummins06]

So much envy. What cab config & 2wd or 4wd? Mind saying what you paid for it?

its a full load Limited crew, it was right around 52k with full extended warranty. I believe the Diesel was a $3200 option at that trim. I also custom ordered it, there is next to no stock on the ED up here, the dealers cant keep them in stock, couldnt find what i wanted.

[stimo]

I've picked me up one of these trucks also and so far I'm happy with it. I'm only averaging 19 mpg but I also don't have a far drive to work. Its more stop and go. Usually on highway trips I average 25 mpg at around 75 mph. This is a crew cab truck with 4wd. I have not towed anything yet so I have no info on that.

[90dodge]

My fiancé's parents bought one off a trailer at the dealership that was supposed to be delivered to another guy down the road at another dealership. It was apparently one of 2 that were in south central Kansas that were even on the market at the time.

[TCDiesel]

I took 1 home form the Dealership , I was impressed by the mileage and power so I had AJ order Me 1, BC we did not have the color and options I wanted on the ground or ordered, I have Hemi's and Cummins Engine's in My entire fleet of company and personal vehicles, I will tell you this My 1500s 2012-14 Avg about 12.8 Mixed HC, the 3.0 is getting 16.8 Mixed HC, I did take it on a 212 Mile HWY trip and it Avg 25.5 @ 70MPH HC, it took a little over 8.3 Gallons HC and filled and refilled off the same company tank and Nozzle.

My Hemi's get 17-19 GPM on same road.

Another area to consider is Air Ride, believe it or Not My Air ride 1500 Hemi's get about 1 MPG better on HWY avg then My spring ride 1500s. that Aero height does make a difference. Of course the 3.0 on order has this option.

When I jump form My spring ride to air 1500s you know when its air.

[06 DIESEL]

I pulled the trigger on a 2014 today, I pick it up on Monday. Regular cab 8' long bed 4x4 tradesman. I start driving it to work on Tuesday, a nice short 89 miles each way 5 days a week.

[Chris Tobin]

I pulled the trigger on a 2014 today, I pick it up on Monday. Regular cab 8' long bed 4x4 tradesman. I start driving it to work on Tuesday, a nice short 89 miles each way 5 days a week.

Cool, keep us posted on your results with the truck as you put the miles on it.

[06 DIESEL]

Picked it up on Monday evening with 17 miles on it. It now as 299 on it. Per the computer when I picked it up average MPG was 17.1, it is now sitting at 23.9. My commute is 89 miles each way, 65 being interstate that I am doing 75ish on. While this is not as good of mileage as my Jetta, it is heavier, 4x4, and a truck not a car.

I was not sure on the automatic trans, but so far it is doing great, not hunting for gears and not dragging down in RPM, downshifting as I feel appropriate 95+% of the time.

[06 DIESEL]

I now have 1603 on it, average MPG according to the computer is between 24 and 25. I towed my empty little trailer (3300#) to work last week, took the computer MPG to 18 from 26 but towed it well, not as well as my 2500 but it did the job fine. DEF has went from a half a tank to just over a needle under a half tank.

[06 DIESEL]

I have 4900 on it now, average MPG is up to 27.5. Towed a load of structural metal decking a week or so ago, it did great with a total of about 6500# behind me. MPH was about 17 to 18, due to the way it was loaded and traffic I could only go 50 MPH, did not hand calculate it, nor have I every hand calculated anything. So far it is well worth it and I sure have had many ask how I liked it and if I would buy one again.

[zstroken]

How is the DEF consumption?
I would be curious how it would handle a large enclosed trailer(IE lots of wind drag)

[TCDiesel]

I will be pulling My 4-place enclosed snowmobile trailer to summer storage, I will let you know How it does, I have 3.92 gears 2015 (ED 3.0). My guess on the DEF 1 GP 600-1000 miles. You can find DEF on sale at Menards 2.5 Gallons for $8.00. My 6.7s are about 1 GP 400 miles when pulling the same trailer across MN,ND,MT to our cabin in West Yellowstone, I drive 70-75 MPH and Avg 8-10 MPG in My 6.7s

[06 DIESEL]

I have put 5 gallons of DEF in and the tank is just a needle under 3/4, was at 1/2 when I bought it. I would say it is more like 1200-1500 miles per 1 gallon of DEF. Remember my drive is highway, almost 75% pure interstate, at least 40% of total miles are with cruise set. I do not have access to an enclosed trailer to test it out, but judging from my other hauling I have done with it, including a tractor, I would think it would do fine, but definitely not as easy as it is for my Cummins.

[SHughes]

I have 4900 on it now, average MPG is up to 27.5. Towed a load of structural metal decking a week or so ago, it did great with a total of about 6500# behind me. MPH was about 17 to 18, due to the way it was loaded and traffic I could only go 50 MPH, did not hand calculate it, nor have I every hand calculated anything. So far it is well worth it and I sure have had many ask how I liked it and if I would buy one again.

So...Would you?

The most I tow is about 6k, so this info does sound better than I was expecting.

[06 DIESEL]

Yes, I must have had to run and didn't get to complete my thought. I would buy one again, nothing different that what I have.

[90dodge]

How's the gas mileage when pulling a load?

[SHughes]

It doesn't use gas. LOL He mentioned 17ish earlier.

[06 DIESEL]

Gas mileage is 99 Billion MPG, Fuel mileage is around 17ish towing, I am sure if it was sustained it would be lower, like 15ish most likely, but you are not going to tow around anything heavy, I would say the highest I would want to tow would be around 8k. The coil suspension definitely enhances any improperly loaded trailers and trailer sway, FYI.

[1ATony]

Gas mileage is 99 Billion MPG, Fuel mileage is around 17ish towing, I am sure if it was sustained it would be lower, like 15ish most likely, but you are not going to tow around anything heavy, I would say the highest I would want to tow would be around 8k. The coil suspension definitely enhances any improperly loaded trailers and trailer sway, FYI.


Thanks for posting. I just bought a new camper for us to go camping in, it weights 6600 dry it's a 33' trailer.

I was curious about this truck, and if it would pull it okay. Wouldn't need to tow it often, just once in a while if changing campgrounds.

Tony

[06 DIESEL]

I would say that if it was me, I would tow that trailer with my 2500 CTD over the 1500 Eco, but I have that option. If I only had one truck and rarely had to move said camper then I would think it would be OK, but if it is windy I feel sorry for you with that sail behind you.

[1ATony]

Thanks for the input Travis, yeah she's a pretty decent size. Having it delivered to the campground. Hopefully we'll like the campground, going to stay as a seasonal.

[06 DIESEL]

I now have 8450 miles on it. Average MPG is 27ish. I burned right at 5 gallons of DEF in 7000 miles, so 1400 miles per gallon.

Biggest issue I am having right now is finding oil filter, fuel filter, and oil for it. From the dealer oil is $9.45 per quart, it takes 10.5 quarts, fuel filter is $49, and oil filter is $69. I know that the oil filter has been made aftermarket but can only be purchased on ebay. Still looking for oil and fuel filter online for less than the dealer.

[TCDiesel]

Geno'S Garage, Inc. Has the fuel filter Mopar $28.00.

[06 DIESEL]

Thanks sir, logging in there now to order one.

[zstroken]

I would say that if it was me, I would tow that trailer with my 2500 CTD over the 1500 Eco, but I have that option. If I only had one truck and rarely had to move said camper then I would think it would be OK, but if it is windy I feel sorry for you with that sail behind you.


Don't think some stabilizers and airbags would help?

I have put probably 3000 miles on my megacab in the last 2 years. I am thinking of selling it, and picking up the ecodiesel. I have a large enclosed trailer, however the most weight I will haul would be 10K, and that would probably be less than 5 times a year.

You need to hook up 8000 lbs or so and see how it does.

[06 DIESEL]

I think if it had airbags it would help, the coil springs definitely more more than flat springs.

I will be hooking up to that very soon, just got the go ahead for some free pavers, 3050# per pallet, and I need 8 pallets. I do not want to make very many trips since they are 75 miles from the house, so I think I will grab two to three per trip so I only have to make three trips. I will let you know how it does for sure.

[06 DIESEL]

I found filters at KLM Performance a six pack for $155 plus shipping of $10, a little better than Geno's so I just ordered them there.

http://www.klmstore.com/2014-ecodiesel-30l-fuel-filter-6-pack.aspx

[06 DIESEL]

Going to change the oil, oil filter, and fuel filter tonight, truck has 9898 on it sitting at work now. Tomorrow I should be hauling a bobcat with it in the evening and then every evening after that I will be hauling 2 pallets of pavers on the trailer, so right at 9k#.

Oil change message came on at 500 miles till 10k, which shows 5% oil life left. Through the 10k miles when I checked the oil life remaining it always was fairly consistent with the mileage.

My idle hours are low, thinking like 25 or so without going out to look at them. My driving hours are probably low for what most would consider 10k miles to be, last time I checked my average MPH it was in the mid 40's for the life of the truck. When I change oil tonight I will check it and post it up.

Hauled 2 yards of topsoil in the bed on Saturday. Definitely not a 2500, but it hauled it fine and I was able to maintain highway speed. I think a set of air bags or something like that will be a purchase fairly soon.

[06 DIESEL]

Hauled a Gehl 4635SX skid steer last night with filled tires. According to Google it weighs 5500# with regular tires, which are about 100# vs 800# with them being filled, according to the owner. Trailer weighs 3200# empty, so total weight being towed was about 11,500#.

Truck did OK, I was able to maintain speed, but it took a while to get to there as the truck was definitely laboring with the load. Still was able to maintain 20 MPG according to the idiot box.

Today I am hauling about 9 to 12 yards of CR6 stone home on the trailer, and before the middle of the week I will be hauling the pavers, so by the middle of next week I will be able to give better towing information. As of now, if I keep using this truck to tow I am going to have to get air bags, the springs are soft and sink with just the trailer behind the truck, and is almost sitting on the stops with the skid steer yesterday.

[wideopen]

Thanks for the Info Travis. I'm looking hard at one of these for next summer!

[06 DIESEL]

Well I got about 4 yards on the trailer, my side boards were too short for 9 to 12, lol.

I also moved a Cat 247B track machine this weekend, it weighs 7k#, plus the trailer puts me right at 10k#. It did it surprisingly well, the larger hills were a chore, but I could easily maintain the posted speed limit.

Yesterday I hauled two pallets of pavers, 6.25k# worth, and was able to maintain interstate speed, 70 MPH.

My idiot box said it was getting 17-18 MPG when towing with a load, towing the empty trailer said around 20 MPG.

If you plan to tow with this truck, get air bags, and flip your hitch up, not down. Overall I am very impressed with the towing capacity of this truck, but I will not get rid of my 2500. Then again, I do tow up to about 36k# with the 2500, and I know this 1500 will not even be able to move that kind of weight.

[okie18]

You don't need your 2500. According to a salesman I talked to they didn't stock or sell 3/4 tons because the half tons can pull and handle just as much :umno:

Poor kid, I just gave him the dumbfounded look and went along LOL

[Billysgoat]

I drove Dad's truck for more than around the block finally and I was impressed, good power for what it is. You can set the cruise at 85, didn't try it at 95 since the truck did not feel real good at that speed and I felt the need to back off a bit for curves. The wind was kicking it pretty good though, so that might have had something to do with it. 80 and below it feels really solid. My only complaint is how quick it downshifts with light load, but as said earlier that could be an emissions thing. He is averaging around 25 in a crew cab short 4x4. With 64xx on the odometer the DEF tank is just below 1/2 full.

So far Dad is really tickled with it, he figured out how to pull up the radar map on it today, that really made him happy.

[zstroken]

and below it feels really solid. My only complaint is how quick it downshifts with light load, but as said earlier that could be an emissions thing.


Saves the transmission.

[Billysgoat]

I can see that, it tries to keep the RPM above 2k with any load to it.

[Sutter1stgen]

Thanks for the updates. That's pretty impressive to see that economy towing. I got the wife a 14' 2500 diesel last June and we love it. When I inherit her truck she may end up with one of these.

[06 DIESEL]

Keep in mind that is what the idiot box is showing, not hand calculated, nor reset prior to towing with it. I would be confident to say towing up to 10k you will get about 17. The flatter the area you live in or drive in the better, I drive in a very hilly area which really hurts the mileage.

One thing I have noticed that I do not like is that there is no engine break, if you have your cruise set it will downshift to slow the truck down when going down a hill, sometimes twice, taking the RPM north of 3,000. There is a stretch of road that I drive every day that I never set cruise on because of this.

[Sutter1stgen]

Keep in mind that is what the idiot box is showing, not hand calculated, nor reset prior to towing with it. I would be confident to say towing up to 10k you will get about 17. The flatter the area you live in or drive in the better, I drive in a very hilly area which really hurts the mileage.

One thing I have noticed that I do not like is that there is no engine break, if you have your cruise set it will downshift to slow the truck down when going down a hill, sometimes twice, taking the RPM north of 3,000. There is a stretch of road that I drive every day that I never set cruise on because of this.

That's the one feature I think I'd miss. The drivetrain probably isn't quite there to support engine braking.

But one would think half the power of the larger ram trucks would not hurt drive train longevity, yet still help enough to notice.
That mileage is awesome no matter, we tow mostly in the flat, except when going to the coast.

[jlbayes]

I drove Dad's truck for more than around the block finally and I was impressed, good power for what it is. You can set the cruise at 85, didn't try it at 95 since the truck did not feel real good at that speed and I felt the need to back off a bit for curves. The wind was kicking it pretty good though, so that might have had something to do with it. 80 and below it feels really solid. My only complaint is how quick it downshifts with light load, but as said earlier that could be an emissions thing. He is averaging around 25 in a crew cab short 4x4. With 64xx on the odometer the DEF tank is just below 1/2 full.

So far Dad is really tickled with it, he figured out how to pull up the radar map on it today, that really made him happy.

I've gotten to drive both the truck and the jeep for work. I was less than impressed with the tuning on the truck. the jeep was much more responsive. they both drove nice and had decent power.

[06 DIESEL]

I have driven a few newer vehicles that do not have engine breaking anymore. All of them were 2013 or newer, gas vehicles, and the Ecodiesel.

[stimo]

This is some mileage results I got from towing this load this past weekend. This was in the tow/haul mode also and I did not use cruise control at all. I also drive about 5mph over the speed limit to factor that in and most of the driving was 55mph and 70mph other than the backroads and towns. I will also say the tires are not stock and height wise they measured 32" tall and the stock tires that were on the truck measured 33" tall. I'm not sure how much that will effect my results and I have not checked into it yet either. I just figured I would post my results. Also I don't remember exactly what the number was but it was like 14.3 to 14.8 at the half way point when I arrived where I was going. The way home is where it dropped and I believe it was because it was a little windy on the way home.

[madmikeismad]

Whats this about radar?

[diesel_importer]

Have you checked it by paper? just to see if the computer is close.

[stimo]

Have you checked it by paper? just to see if the computer is close.

I mapquested it the exact route I took and it came up with 622 miles so I would assume it is close but I did not calculate out on paper. Well now that I think about it I have a rough idea on paper what it was on the way home. I drove roughly 335 miles on 25.9 gallons of fuel which should be around 12.9 mpg.

[06 DIESEL]

Well just figured I would update you all on the truck. I now have just shy of 21,000 on it. I bought the truck brand new on 2-9-15 with 17 miles on it, so at 21 weeks of owning it I am at 21,000 miles, right at the 1,000 a week I figured I would be putting on it. Overall average is 27.5 MPG. Towing is lower than I thought, around 14ish. These are off of the idiot box, not hand calculated.

I am still impressed with the truck, the ride is great, the mileage is awesome, but if you tow a lot or tow heavier it is not the truck for you. With 4 yards of asphalt millings on my trailer I could not go over 50 or the trailer would begin to sway bad. I think it has to do with the suspension of the 1500 vs the 2500. If I was only keeping the 1500 I would definitely get sway bars as well as air bags, but I am almost done fixing my 2500 so the towing with this truck should cease to exist as soon as I get the 2500 back on the road.

I have changed the oil, oil filter, and fuel filter every 10k miles, so far nothing looks out of wack, and even though it suggests fuel filter changes at 30k, I definitely would not wait that long. My fuel is filtered at the pump at the station into my transfer tank, transfer tank into storage tank, storage tank into truck, and truck into motor. The filter still looks dirty after all of that filtering, and the station is known for good clean fuel that I get it from.

The oil change with oil and fuel filter cost me about $125 each time, with me doing it myself. Don't plan on saving money on oil changes, the dealer quoted me $250 for this same service, FYI.

I am going to look into transmission service, they claim lifetime oil life without service, but I doubt I trust that.

[TCDiesel]

Wait till you spec the cost on the trans service , Its about $250.00 on the filter/Pan and another $150.00 for the fluid. I'm just going to drop the Filter/Pan and clean it and re-install, after that until the cost drops on the Filter/Pan ,I'm only doing fluid changes at 20K intervals.

[wideopen]

Nice update. I want one of these trucks.

[SmokeShow]

I'm with him. ^^^

[06 DIESEL]

Wait till you spec the cost on the trans service , Its about $250.00 on the filter/Pan and another $150.00 for the fluid. I'm just going to drop the Filter/Pan and clean it and re-install, after that until the cost drops on the Filter/Pan ,I'm only doing fluid changes at 20K intervals.

There is a guy making a pan that has changeable filters for this trans, same guy I got my oil filters from. I am thinking that I will change them at 50k, which will be once a year. I will try and look up the info and pass it along on here later this week.

[CorneliusRox]

Wait till you spec the cost on the trans service , Its about $250.00 on the filter/Pan and another $150.00 for the fluid. I'm just going to drop the Filter/Pan and clean it and re-install, after that until the cost drops on the Filter/Pan ,I'm only doing fluid changes at 20K intervals.

You replace the pan every time you change fluid and filter?
And do these pans at least come with a drain plug, or do you need to weld a bung on/buy an aftermarket one?

[TCDiesel]

There is a guy making a pan that has changeable filters for this trans, same guy I got my oil filters from. I am thinking that I will change them at 50k, which will be once a year. I will try and look up the info and pass it along on here later this week.

Please do.....

[06 DIESEL]

I was just looking for it and I can not seem to find it. The guy goes by mopar ecodiesel on youtube and mustandshawn2001 on most forums. I know I saw it a while back, maybe I can find it back eventually. He now has 111,000 on his 2014 and has done two transmission services.

Here is his youtube page.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpmd20ULYnSQlZ45B5fHgg

[TCDiesel]

He always over at Ram1500diesel.com

[diesel_importer]

Does anybody have one with tuning on it? TS had a box out, but stopped selling to update it. I haven't heard anything out of them yet.


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[TCDiesel]

I do Banks Bullet.. I have 5322 miles with the Bullet ,its a nice little pressure Box. Total mileage 7400. I just did oil change last night , I could have run that oil to 10 K easily. I put 5-30 Pennzoil platinum, (On sale at Autozone will be putting Schaeffer's S-9000 on the next change) the Heck with the Euro, I also checked my intake tube for oil ,it just a film on the outer walls.

[TCDiesel]

Remove all that acoustic sound insulation that's choking the motor and clear coat everything in engine bay motor), Dia-electric all the connections also, it took me 5 Hrs to remove the Sound insulation and Connections, (Heck the cover on the pump weight 4 LBS),this included the big harnesses on PCM/PDC and Frame ones.

[diesel_importer]

My wife is about tired of the cramped back seat in our 07.5 Duramax. I'm trying to figure out what to get next........


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[TCDiesel]

I ordered My ED in Feb 15 received Mar 15 the 3.0 option was $3175, in 14 it was $2895 in 16 its $4175 ugh. better start looking at 15 "like NOW"

[coker6303]

My wife is about tired of the cramped back seat in our 07.5 Duramax. I'm trying to figure out what to get next........


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You don't let your wife ride in the front?? Lol

The ecodiesel is a pretty cool rig. Guy at work just bought one, he loves it. I was impressed on the test drive too

[TCDiesel]

You don't let your wife ride in the front?? Lol

The ecodiesel is a pretty cool rig. Guy at work just bought one, he loves it. I was impressed on the test drive too

O that's good.:hehe:

[diesel_importer]

You don't let your wife ride in the front?? Lol



The ecodiesel is a pretty cool rig. Guy at work just bought one, he loves it. I was impressed on the test drive too


Ha!!! We are just tired of fighting the small backseat with 2 boys in car seats. It's not bad, until you cram a car seat back thete


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[06 DIESEL]

Remove all that acoustic sound insulation that's choking the motor and clear coat everything in engine bay motor), Dia-electric all the connections also, it took me 5 Hrs to remove the Sound insulation and Connections, (Heck the cover on the pump weight 4 LBS),this included the big harnesses on PCM/PDC and Frame ones.

Wow, that actually looks like a motor again, not a big plastic pile of crap. Might have to do that next time I change oil again.

[SmokeShow]

I was just looking for it and I can not seem to find it. The guy goes by mopar ecodiesel on youtube and mustandshawn2001 on most forums. I know I saw it a while back, maybe I can find it back eventually. He now has 111,000 on his 2014 and has done two transmission services.

Here is his youtube page.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpmd20ULYnSQlZ45B5fHgg

I've watched all of that cat's videos. He sure seems to be an intelligent fella. Can't tell what it is he does for a living (delivers something in trailer up north) but he sure puts some miles on.

Informative.

[TCDiesel]

Shawn (Mustang) made some changes, But My experience differ form his ,the Intake and the oil bypass are something to be avoid. If your ED is puking excessive oil you have some type of internal pressure problem that eventually will cost you the Motor.

[torqueofthetown]

Snow Performance Power-Max Water-Methanol System

looks like some impressive gains, wonder what the gains would be with a tuned engine.

http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/1507-snow-performance-power-max-water-methanol-system/

best gains of 61hp 125ft/lbs

[Signature600]

Ha!!! We are just tired of fighting the small backseat with 2 boys in car seats. It's not bad, until you cram a car seat back thete


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Backseat in 2014/15 GM's are WAY nicer.


That being said, if I didn't need a dually to drag a 35' trailer, I'd be looking at the EcoDiesel. Just can't get past the crappy dealer in my area though. I was ready to kill them over my 2010 6.7L...went Duramax a year and a half ago and haven't had to worry about whether my truck would start every morning.

Chris

[diesel_importer]

Chris, that's what we are leaning towards. Been looking at 2015 Duramaxes with the big cab. It's between that and a 4th gen dodge


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[billybob7]

my company bought one back in May of this year down in Tucson,AZ because our 2500 blew a head gasket I have been the main one driving it and already have 20,000 miles on it. it is bone stock and will stay that way so far it has been a awesome little truck I pull a small 14 foot enclosed trailer with it and get about 17mpg mostly highway miles and 25-28 empty. is there and thing I should watch for as far as problems with the truck ? any info on these would be awesome thanks guy

[06 DIESEL]

Update for everyone. I now have 30,XXX on it, have done yet another oil change. I also kept track of DEF usage this time, ~2600 miles to ~2.5 gallons, this was monitored by watching the gauge, so keep that in mind. Average MPG so far, according to the idiot box is 25, high being 29.3 and low being 17ish.

No issues with it at all, I did take an oil sample this time and sent it to Blackstone on Saturday, I hope to see it back in a week or so and I will post it on here.

[06 DIESEL]

Got the oil analysis back, everything looks fine for a new motor, and my oil chance interval can go to 12k instead of 10k.

[crazyrunner33]

VM Motori builds a great engine. I had the 2.8 inline 4 with 230,000 trouble free miles before selling it. It's now living the rest of its life near the panama canal.

[torqueofthetown]

400 hp and 600 lb-ft of V-6 Performance in a ’15 Ram 1500
written by Jason Sands – Nov 29, 2015

http://www.trucktrend.com/features/1511-2015-ram-ecodiesel-with-a-compound-turbo-punch/

[rdix7991]

That's a nice setup.

[06 DIESEL]

That is a nice setup, I hope that it holds up for him. I have 38500 on mine now, all stock, and it is still holding up nicely.

[SmokeShow]

It looks like the dude on YouTube had the cam gear come loose on one of the cams. I guess they're press-fit only, no mechanical fasteners/retainers. He acts like this might not be too uncommon? Anyone else seen or heard of this?

He claims D&J has a relatively simple fix for it. Key? Sure seems a key on each gear may help if that isn't what they're doing?

[dixon700]

It looks like the dude on YouTube had the cam gear come loose on one of the cams. I guess they're press-fit only, no mechanical fasteners/retainers. He acts like this might not be too uncommon? Anyone else seen or heard of this?

He claims D&J has a relatively simple fix for it. Key? Sure seems a key on each gear may help if that isn't what they're doing?

A friends brother's ecodiesel had something like that happen with only 6,000 miles on the truck. And now it's been a few months and fca still hasn't gotten him back into his truck or another....

[06 DIESEL]

Here is his video of the failure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XzdYl5iCYQ

I will keep an eye out for the solution being published, I also will need to get 300k+ out of mine for it to have been worth it for me.

[dieselguy81]

I think the cam gears failure due to the injection pump locking up.

[robie]

There has also been some bottom end issues.

[06 DIESEL]

Knock on wood I have 43,600 on mine and no issues yet.

[06 DIESEL]

Bought the truck on 2-9-15 with 17 miles on it, as of midnight on 2-9-16 I have 46,655 miles on her. No issues, complaints, etc so far. I still have to send off my last oil analysis, keep forgetting to grab it when I am in the garage.

[06 DIESEL]

Got 56k on the truck now, no issues known, sent off the last two oil samples a few weeks ago and just got the results back. Everything looks great as far as the oil samples go, they even suggest pushing the oil change interval to 14k which I will do instead of 12k like previously suggested, or 10k per manufacturer recommendation. I do mainly drive long distances, it is 89 miles each way to work, 70 of those are interstate.

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62842&stc=1&d=1461580045

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62843&stc=1&d=1461580045

Truck is still 100% stock down to the tires/brakes. I got a set of air bags for it so that I can haul dirt in the bed from work and not have to deal with looking like the truck is about to die from a few hundred pounds in the bed.

Mileage is currently averaging 25 per the computer, I have never hand calculated it so I can not say how close it is.

[sootie]

i wouldn't trust blackstone-their tests leave a lot to be desired. look up lubrication engineers.

[j_cyrus]

My company just gave me one of these... I like it. One of the other ecodiesels we have just spun a rod bearing at 20k.

[06 DIESEL]

Just passed 60k on the truck last night. I got a set of helper air bags for the rear so it would not squat as much with a load in it. Grabbed some sand yesterday, 3300# worth and the truck did fine with it going home 80 miles from where I got it.

[CorneliusRox]

Just passed 60k on the truck last night. I got a set of helper air bags for the rear so it would not squat as much with a load in it. Grabbed some sand yesterday, 3300# worth and the truck did fine with it going home 80 miles from where I got it.

Dang, that's a hard working 1500! Did the tires get warm?

[wideopen]

My BIL's is close to that same millage...Only problem he has had is with the DEF Fluid.


That cost him several Hundred dollars.

[06 DIESEL]

Dang, that's a hard working 1500! Did the tires get warm?

They probably were but when I got home I just unloaded the sand and did not worry about it. They are almost baloney skins anyway and I have a new set of heavy duty tires waiting for the truck when these are too worn out.

I keep my DEF fluid between 1/3 and full at all times, hopefully this helps.

I know that if I have issues with the emissions things they might just get lost in a ditch somewhere, especially after I hit 100K.

[j_cyrus]

700 miles on mine. It's throwing this code : P05f1 - I can't find much online about it other than it sounds like a wiring issue? Not sure. It will go back to the dealer I guess.


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[Texas Cowboy]

Does anybody have one with tuning on it? TS had a box out, but stopped selling to update it. I haven't heard anything out of them yet.


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I'm running GDE ECM tune. Mileage has jumped 3-4mpg, no EGR, less regen's, and lower DEF usage. Plus, a nice power pick up and no more delayed throttle.

[SmokeShow]

is that mileage increase on paper or per the trucks computer?

What kind of MPG are you getting for a tank of mixed city/hwy driving? Flat or hilly terrain?

We are thinking of some for the work fleet. It sure is appealing to improve MPG by 25% or so. They're leased so the warranty/maintenance package is the same either way... only out-of-pocket difference is in the fuel cost.

[HSM-Zane]

We have oil cooler kits available for these trucks now that replace the problematic factory units, and help keep the oil temps down. The turbo kits are coming very shortly as well:)

https://hs-motorsports.com/misc-products/14-15-ram-1500-ecodiesel-oil-cooler-kit.html

[j_cyrus]

is that mileage increase on paper or per the trucks computer?

What kind of MPG are you getting for a tank of mixed city/hwy driving? Flat or hilly terrain?

We are thinking of some for the work fleet. It sure is appealing to improve MPG by 25% or so. They're leased so the warranty/maintenance package is the same either way... only out-of-pocket difference is in the fuel cost.


Flat ground, 70% highway 30% city, probably 2 hours of idle time a day, 24mpg. never above 75mph and I try not to rapid accelerate. all factory truck.

[06 DIESEL]

Per trucks computer, 75% highway, 25% city, less than an hour of idle time a day, probably closer to 20 minutes a day, 25 MPG average per computer, I drive like I stole it every day, accelerate fast, drive up to 85 MPH some times, set cruise on highway at 77 MPH, hilly terrain, 100% stock. Truck has 65,000 miles.

[Texas Cowboy]

is that mileage increase on paper or per the trucks computer?

What kind of MPG are you getting for a tank of mixed city/hwy driving? Flat or hilly terrain?

We are thinking of some for the work fleet. It sure is appealing to improve MPG by 25% or so. They're leased so the warranty/maintenance package is the same either way... only out-of-pocket difference is in the fuel cost.

That on paper. Go over to ram 1500 diesel and search for GDE. You'll see many posts on improved mileage. You can also go here http://www.greendieselengineering.com/PerfCompFCAEcoDiesel.action

I'm stationed at Fort Irwin, CA. The wife and I went to Vegas last month round trip with cruise set at 75mph. I filled up when I got back on base and hand calc 28.6 that trip. I visited home, south Florida, and saw 30-31 on flat ground running around between 60-65 mph. Far as city driving, before I moved out here, I lived in Round Rock, TX. I averaged 25-28 mixed driving hand calc.

[SmokeShow]

Sounds like mostly flat ground but dang I want one!!

[SKYNYRD]

My parents bought a 2016 and I took it to TS this year, 1500 mile round trip through West Virginia mountains and I averaged 30 mph on the computer. Still averaging between 27-29 mph with driving it to Hamburg PA this past weekend got just over 2k mi on the clock.

[DDually]

My parents bought a 2016 and I took it to TS this year, 1500 mile round trip through West Virginia mountains and I averaged 30 mph on the computer. Still averaging between 27-29 mph with driving it to Hamburg PA this past weekend got just over 2k mi on the clock.

Man... must have taken you a LONG time to get to TS :hehe:

[06 DIESEL]

Well I have almost 72k on her now and it is time to start thinking about the 100k service...

Who sells what I am looking for? Looking for tuning and exhaust, I should be at 100k around February and want to have my ducks in a row when the time comes.

[Chris Tobin]

Well I have almost 72k on her now and it is time to start thinking about the 100k service...

Who sells what I am looking for? Looking for tuning and exhaust, I should be at 100k around February and want to have my ducks in a row when the time comes.

Tuning and exhaust... such as lightweight exhaust components:evil and an extra hair dryer???:woohoo: If so look at Espos Diesel. They build a nice upgrade kit for the engine!!!:snoop:

[torqueofthetown]

FWIW....

AFE has some hard parts including an intercooler and cast aluminum pan

http://afepower.com/vehicle-platforms/diesel-trucks/dodge-ram?engine=V6-3.0L

http://afepower.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/400x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/6/46-20172a1600.1472860019.jpg

http://afepower.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/400x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/6/46-70282a1600_1.1472859617.jpg

[Cummins610]

Truck keeps on impressing me. Did a 1600km run yesterday and got exactly 30mpg hand calculated. 100% stock and just rolled over 120,000


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[06 DIESEL]

Not necessarily looking to add extra hair dryers, I DD this truck, 1k miles a week most weeks, so some better fuel economy and not having to fill a second tank would be helpful. I see that PPEI does tuning and flo-pro has exhaust for them, as of now for the pair it is not too hateful. I will have to keep an eye out for it to either go on sale, or have a package deal. The worst part is having to send out your ECU and having the vehicle down for a week or so.

[Cummins610]

Have you done a oil analysis? Curious how internals are doing.



No I haven't, there is some blow-by for sure. Trucks gets 10,000km(6200mile) changes like all the other pickups in our fleet.


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[EnduringAtlas]

This past weekend a buddy of mine hooked his 2016 EcoDiesel to the sled. It's bone stock. He would have placed 4th out of 13 if his pull wasn't considered a demo pull since it was against the 6500lb local gas trucks. His weight was 6490lbs and he didn't even bother airing down at all. He pulled in low and hit 3rd gear and thinks he would have pulled better if he shifted it quicker off the line.
I thought some of you might appreciate this.

[Phooker]

Not necessarily looking to add extra hair dryers, I DD this truck, 1k miles a week most weeks, so some better fuel economy and not having to fill a second tank would be helpful. I see that PPEI does tuning and flo-pro has exhaust for them, as of now for the pair it is not too hateful. I will have to keep an eye out for it to either go on sale, or have a package deal. The worst part is having to send out your ECU and having the vehicle down for a week or so.
If you talk to the right people, a package can happen. If everything is arranged, next day your ecu, 2 days tops, next day back. Done within a business week.

[06 DIESEL]

So these past two mornings on my way to work (90 miles, 65 interstate rest two lane) I have not had heat above 45 mph. Looking online it appears that this not really a common problem but a few have had the problem and to fix it they had to replace the fuse and relay box, part number 68212474AD for a 2014. The AC stays on and pushes the cold air in instead of the hot air from the heater core. Below 45 MPH I have plenty of heat, enough to run me out of the truck. I am waiting on a call back from the dealer to find out if this is covered under warranty or if I am SOL since the truck currently has 76.5k on on it and will have 77k before the weekend when I would be able to work on it.

The one thing I am going to try tonight is to put the cold weather front on the truck and see if that helps.

[06 DIESEL]

So more information to add. Checked the truck over on Tuesday night electrically and could not get it to give me any heat. I could not find the cold weather front for it before I was too fed up to give a crap and said screw it. No heat on the way to work on Wednesday after I started on the road, was nice and warm in the driveway but as soon as I got driving I lost all heat.

On the way home on Wednesday I got a warming light for high coolant temp, it was at 240*, pulled over and let it cool down, looked it over and it was low on coolant. Bought coolant and added 3/4 gallon to get it to full and then the temp went down and stayed in check. I also now had heat. Called dealer to make an appointment as my last oil analysis showed some potassium in the oil, which is caused by coolant. Got home and it was low again so I added the rest of the gallon and the coolant got to normal levels. Checked oil, not high and not milky.

Got out the pressure tester for the radiator and pumped it up to 10 LBS and could almost watch the level in the tank lower of coolant, but can not see any coolant leaking externally at all, everything is dry.

I guess we will see what the dealer has to say on Monday when they look at it. For now I am driving my 06 to and from work, which I hate having to do because of how much wear and tear it puts on her driving almost 200 miles a day.

[Mooner1]

Dang man, that sucks. Interested to hear what they find. We've got 53k on ours now and it has been a really great truck thus far.

[06 DIESEL]

Mine has been a great truck, no issues till this started this week. When I got the oil analysis back two weeks ago I was concerned about the results. I am going to pull a sample this weekend and send it in before I take it to the dealer this weekend so that I hopefully have results back within a few days and see if they match what the dealer has to say.

I have a feeling it is either a head gasket or the oil cooler that went.

Does anyone offer a head stud kit for this motor yet? If it is a head gasket I am going to insist on studs and want to have the information ready to go for the dealer if needed.

[TCDiesel]

My sodium was High on 1 fluke sample.. 06 You have problems,,,, and if you running MS11106 and its finding its way (Coolant) to the lube ask for new engine, MS11106 is loaded with calcium and when (OAT) mixes with Calcium it creates balls of sand that will destroy or shorten engine life considerably.

[biggy238]

Nice. Is the EGR the source?

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[06 DIESEL]

Here is my most recent oil report. As far as the MS number the truck is BONE stock, I have not changed coolant, trans fluid, anything yet except oil/oil filter/fuel filters.

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64415&stc=1&d=1476469227

IF there is in fact coolant in the engine they are going to give me a new engine and whatever the cause was will be replaced/upgraded to not have the issue again.

This is why I waited till I hit 100k for doing a delete etc. I was afraid that with buying a first year run of a new vehicle it would have some issues and I wanted to do everything I could to not have to fight with FCA about warranty.

[robie]

Have seen a couple with a leak from the coolant supply line for the turbo.Very hard to find because its in the valley.

[06 DIESEL]

Update from the dealer. They can not find an external leak and need to tear it apart some to try and find the issue. I suspect head gasket, cracked head, or cracked block at a coolant passage. There is no oil in the coolant though. I have already laid ground work for a new engine, depending on what they find today and if they need to go to FCA for approval for more tear down beyond "normal". We will see what they have to say today when they call as I have asked for daily updates.

[CorneliusRox]

Good luck on a new engine! How many miles are you at? Might be worth it to stud and delete it at this point.

[06 DIESEL]

76,922 miles, hours on engine are 1710 drive and 243 idle when I dropped it off.

I am going to push for a new engine and a new 100k warranty with the engine, shoot for the moon and hope to get something out of it.

Either way I will be deleting, studding, relocating the oil cooler, etc as soon as the warranty is up on it.

Has anyone come up with a fix for the cam gear walking off yet?

[06 DIESEL]

Just got a call from the dealer. They were not able to get anything visible today nor were they able to get the level to go down any by driving it a little bit and letting it idle some. FCA wants them to check the EGR cooler tomorrow and see if there is a leak there. The EGR cooler is NOT a warranty part, not surprising they want to check it first before tearing into anything warranty covered.

Oil analysis was mailed today to see what it has to say. I hope to hear back from Blackstone within a week or so.

[skyjacked97zj]

I'm gonna follow the outcome of this. I picked one of these up two saturdays ago, I love it so far but like all am concerned about it being so new.

[06 DIESEL]

Update

EGR cooler is not leaking, which is what I suspected. Dealer asked me to drive it to work today to put miles on it since they can not seem to recreate the problem. Picked it up yesterday and verified with the service manager the level of the coolant. I will check it before I leave work today to see how it looks level wise. I know that when I left my house with it to drop off to them it was about 1/4" higher than it was when i picked it up, but they said it was at that level when they got it and could not make it go down or find the leak.

Dealer service manager seems like a good guy and wants to fix it but FCA wants them to recreate the reason it looses coolant and they can not drive it 200 miles in a day like I do, nor can they drive it a constant speed for 50 miles like I can in the morning.

Hopefully the oil analysis comes back quickly so I can shove that up FCA's rear and make them tear it down and find the issue.

[SmokeShow]

Dang I hope it's not a catastrophic failure that soon. That sucks. I realllly want to try to get into one of these but if its not going to last, I just can't have that kind of money tied up in it. Dangit.

[06 DIESEL]

Update

Drove it yesterday and could not tell any coolant went missing, but this was checking it hot vs cold when we checked it at the dealer when I picked it up on Wednesday.

The dealer service rep was told yesterday that FCA will not authorize tear down unless we can recreate the issue. I think the oil analysis will change their mind but I have this sneaking suspicion they will want me to keep driving it to watch coolant levels myself and get out of warranty and try not to have to deal with the issue.

I can assure you that I am not taking this lightly, and I will not just roll over and take it.

[zstroken]

Good luck, might as well get an attorney involved now.

[TCDiesel]

06 wait on the OA, I've removed MY motori 3.0 and went Thru the motor. found some problems and fix it Myself.. FCA did reimbursed Me for My efforts $$$.

[skyjacked97zj]

TCDiesel, out of curiosity what did you find when you tore yours down that needed a fix?

[06 DIESEL]

The dealer called me and asked me to pick the truck up they can not find the issue. I will pick the truck up and get it home, won't drive it though till I have the OA back and find out what it has to say.

[TCDiesel]

Two undersized crank Journals. TQ spec's way to loose, Bottom end only. I welded the Drive sprocket to the gear just for piece of mind.. but it can still slip if the bolt comes loose.

[SmokeShow]

Couldn't key it?

[06 DIESEL]

Update

Since the dealer gave me paperwork saying that there was nothing wrong with the truck I have been driving it. I put about 600 miles on it in three days and on my way home yesterday it popped a check engine light. Apparently you can not cycle the key on these and see the code so I called the dealer and let them know I was coming in and they needed to check the code. All gauges were fine and truck felt like it was running normal.

Dealer pulls the code and it is for the EGR/coolant valve, which has a service bulletin on it. The parts are warranty and they are ordering them today. When we popped the hood the coolant was low, the tech that had been doing the previous service, the service manager, and I all verified that it was low and then they added 2/3 of a gallon of coolant. This makes for a total of 1.67 gallons added in 1500 miles. Oil does still not look milky though.

Cleared the code and told me to keep driving it, they will order the parts and when they get in they will perform the service.

I tracked the oil analysis and it was delivered to Blackstone yesterday, so I should have results today and will promptly send them to the service manager when they get to me.

[SmokeShow]

You would surely notice if anywhere near that amount of coolant was going into your engine oil. And likely would see the leak if it were external, don't you think? At least see a residue building up somewhere?

Real curious to see what plays out here. Hope it's nothing major!

[06 DIESEL]

Update

Added another half gallon between Friday and last night. When adding last night I did notice it puking back out but wasn't able to find the source before mother nature decided she wanted to be a ***** and send some storm thru my area.

Called Blackstone on Friday and they assured me my analysis would be done on Monday. The one time I need it back fast the post office lost it for four days and then Blackstone took three days to process it.

[06 DIESEL]

Update

Got the oil analysis back, doesn't look good. Called the service manager at the dealer. He said well sounds like something is mixing, keep driving it till the EGR cooler valve gets here on Wednesday, we will make an appointment for the truck once that part gets here. He again asked how much coolant it had used since I was at the dealer last and I let him know it was a half gallon and was lower since then. This puts me at a total of 2.33 gallons of coolant added.

Today when the sun comes up I will check the coolant level again and also check the oil consistency. If all of that coolant is making it into the oil it should be milky by now.

I have a feeling that I have more than one issue causing a loss of coolant, lets hope that FCA feels the same and authorizes tear down.

I am going to make a complaint to them today to let them know the issues I have been seeing, what I have reported to the dealer and what they have told me to do.

Here is the oil analysis.

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64601&stc=1&d=1477994783

[zstroken]

Is the suggested oil change 10,000mi? Curious if Chrysler will try to use that as a denial of warranty?

I know when I had some coolant issues , I was able to drain some oil out of the pan into a glass jar, and could see antifreeze in the jar. Anyway you can drain it out? I would think since you aren't seeing the oil level rise, that it is getting consumed or sent out the tail pipe.

[06 DIESEL]

Dealer just called, the EGR cooler is leaking internally causing the loss of coolant. Unless I do not know how this works, how is the coolant getting into the oil if the EGR cooler is leaking internally?

I am waiting on a call back from FCA as well as the dealer to let me know how this coolant and oil are mixing.

[zstroken]

Dealer just called, the EGR cooler is leaking internally causing the loss of coolant. Unless I do not know how this works, how is the coolant getting into the oil if the EGR cooler is leaking internally?

I am waiting on a call back from FCA as well as the dealer to let me know how this coolant and oil are mixing.


So if coolant can get into the exhaust gas recirc, I assume it could get into the intake? Then since it isn't combusted, start to mix with oil?

[CorneliusRox]

So if coolant can get into the exhaust gas recirc, I assume it could get into the intake? Then since it isn't combusted, start to mix with oil?

That'd be my guess. Then you wouldn't see oil level change much, but the coolant would likely get past the rings a bit.

[06 DIESEL]

Chrysler Customer Care just called me back and told me that they were not covering anything. Even though the dealer told me to keep driving the truck when I reported an issue. Guess I need to get a price on a EGR delete kit.

[SmokeShow]

So the EGR system isn't covered?

[06 DIESEL]

Nope the EGR valve is covered but the EGR cooler is not covered past 3/36k.

[Chris Tobin]

Nope the EGR valve is covered but the EGR cooler is not covered past 3/36k.

It is nuts that manufacturers are getting away with not covering parts of the emissions system under the emissions warranty!!! I have heard similar issues with the Chevy Cruze Diesel and GM denying warranty on emissions related items like the DEF pump, heater and system...

I know when there are out of warranty emissions failures on my Cruze we will look for "lightweight" aftermarket components....:hehe:

[CorneliusRox]

Nope the EGR valve is covered but the EGR cooler is not covered past 3/36k.

That's likely the life set by the EPA, but look it up anyways. I know for motorcycles (usually much more lax emissions laws) the emissions stuff has to stay effective at reducing emissions to a set amount of miles or years (whichever comes first). Last time I was dealing with it was last year and I want to say it was 30000km (~18600 miles) or five years. I would expect a diesel truck to have a much higher requirement.
If that's the case, you might be able to leverage the EPA against them and I'm sure they wouldn't love that.

[06 DIESEL]

My case representative with FCA does not know anything about the vehicle. She actually told me yesterday that I was causing excessive wear on the vehicle by driving it 200 miles a day. My truck is about to get lighter and get better mileage and I am 100% OK with that.

[CorneliusRox]

She actually told me yesterday that I was causing excessive wear on the vehicle by driving it 200 miles a day.

That is unreal!? I'm assuming this lady doesn't know anything about trucks then.
I'd recommend just recording everything, just in case. Hopefully you got that recorded.
"New Ram's are designed to drive less than 200 miles a day or you could hurt them..."

[06 DIESEL]

She clearly is just a pencil pusher, she did not know anything about the EGR and how it worked, or anything on the diesel vehicle. I politely explained to her that the trucks were designed not to sit and idle or short trip around town all day.

Since I have owned the truck, 2-9-15 with 17 miles on it I have NEVER had the truck go into manual regen, EVER. I drive long enough that if it does get short tripped it will get cleaned out before it has to go into manual regen.

None of this was recorded, the dealer service manager is mad that FCA is not going to pay for this part. He did let me know that the EGR cooler is under a 5 year 50k warranty, not the 3/36k that I thought. He told me to stop in tonight on my way home to talk to him in person.

At this point I am ready to pull the trigger on the lighter truck with programming as well as free flowing exhaust. If you are a vendor that has this ability please PM me information. Turbo/engine braking, 20-40 HP more and dead nuts reliable is what I am after....

[06 DIESEL]

Parts have begun to arrive. Sending out the ECU today to have it worked on. I will report my findings when all complete, should be after Thanksgiving since I am out of town for work all next week.

[1972RedNeck]

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[06 DIESEL]

Got the updated ECU in and the new exhaust installed. Still have to do the EGR cooler delete and get the DEF tank out. I hope by the end of this weekend to be done with it and ready to drive it again.

[zfaylor]

My business partner has one with 20k on it. It is starting to make some pretty awful noises when accelerating. Idles smooth and cruising it is smooth. It sounds like a dam wrist pin is shot. Any new problems people know of with these?

[wideopen]

Very interested in how this works for you. Thanks for the updates.

[06 DIESEL]

Got the EGR cooler removed yesterday. The hoses for the coolant lines are coming from the front of the motor are impossible to remove the existing clamp because FCA decided to use a metal crimp style that has to be cut off and you can not get to it without removing the alternator so I just spliced the line and extended it to get it reconnected with the delete kit from H&S.

On Sunday I will get to drive it and make sure there are no leaks and see how it runs.

When I took off the EGR pipe going into the intake that was a mess and I spent a little while trying the best I could to get the oil sludge out of the intake. Going to have to completely remove the intake and properly clean the intake when I have a few days off.

[zfaylor]

Update on my business partners truck: engine is trashed. Working with the dealer to get out of it and into a one ton now.

[06 DIESEL]

Drove it to work today, all gauge readings were withing spec on the way down. Since mother nature decided to make it wet this morning and just above freezing I did not get to test it out very much, but so far I like it. The jury is still out on the exhaust note though. I wish FTE made a 3" resonator, not sure how a 4" would work in a full 3" system.

[skyjacked97zj]

Update on my business partners truck: engine is trashed. Working with the dealer to get out of it and into a one ton now.

Do you know what caused it?

[zfaylor]

Do you know what caused it?

No. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like we ever will. I think the dealer is going to work with him on a 1 ton to replace it. Not too keen on keeping it at this point. It was a great truck, though. Knowing when to walk away is oftentimes the hardest part.

[SmokeShow]

couple tanks of fuel through it yet, Travis? Whatcha think?!

[zfaylor]

Just an update. Thrust bearing failed and was flaking. Dodge is installing a brand new engine.