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stock600
10-17-2008, 10:58 PM
Cummins got me in a big filter base so i can run bigger lines the the pump, the problem is finding a filter that has a desant micron rating. Ther are tons of filters that fit this base from very short to super long, some have water seperators, some drains like found in a radiator, and others a 1/8" pipe plug made in the bottom for a drain.
The ones i was interested in were like the FL104, FL105, 105C, 105D and a few more, but all had a micron rating of 20, wich from what ive read is 2x's worse than the stocker at 10 micron? I have the injectors off to get redone and want lots of volume but good filtration, i was thinking a 2 micron would do well, does any one know a FL# that would work, or that you run? Thanks
Ryan

bsmith
10-17-2008, 11:27 PM
Cummins got me in a big filter base so i can run bigger lines the the pump, the problem is finding a filter that has a desant micron rating. Ther are tons of filters that fit this base from very short to super long, some have water seperators, some drains like found in a radiator, and others a 1/8" pipe plug made in the bottom for a drain.
The ones i was interested in were like the FL104, FL105, 105C, 105D and a few more, but all had a micron rating of 20, wich from what ive read is 2x's worse than the stocker at 10 micron? I have the injectors off to get redone and want lots of volume but good filtration, i was thinking a 2 micron would do well, does any one know a FL# that would work, or that you run? Thanks
Ryan

dont know which base you have, but i have a baldwin FB-1311 filter base and use a CAT 1R0750 its a 2mic absolute.

if you talk to a filter person they can cross reference that cat and come up with a fleetguard #. the cat has a better rating than fleetguard.

stock600
10-18-2008, 11:31 PM
I dont have the part number of the filter head handy but it has a single 1/2" npt inlet and outlet. What is the size and number of ports in the Baldwin FB-1311.? Where did you get yours, maybe Napa carrys Baldwin..... anyone know.

mdavlee
10-19-2008, 07:12 AM
fleetpride carries that baldwin filter base fb1311

Snedge
10-19-2008, 09:38 AM
http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/en/index.shtml

Online filter catalog with cross reference.

stock600
10-19-2008, 09:59 AM
Thank you for the link. Ive been looking for the past hour, none of the sites ive found shows any Micron info... just dimentions and such, i'll check this one out.

bgilbert
10-20-2008, 12:02 PM
What thread is the filter adaptor? If it's a 1" 14tpi you can use FS1000, 10 micron, stratapore. Personally I would get the filter base for the fs1000 from Cummins, get one that uses -10an straight cut/o-ring sealed in/out aka 7/8". I would ditch anything with pipe thread.

Jim Fulmer
10-20-2008, 12:11 PM
Racor S3201S Filter is a 2 micron and will work on that base if it is the same one I have, mine does not have 1/2" pipe thread, you have to use a 1/2" pipe thread but it is an O-Ring fitting.

I know Industrial Injection had the S3201S filters and the screw on water separtor bowl.

Jim

stock600
10-20-2008, 03:52 PM
I still have not come up with the filter i want to use. The head is a 142784S again it has a single 1/2" inlet and outlet. The lowest ive found that fits it is a FS1000 wich is 10 micron but its very long and where im wanting to mount it, it would be way to low, thiers a FS10001 wich is the shorter filter and suppose to be the same 10 micron. If this is all i can get it would prob. work as the factory filter ive been using is suppose to be a 10M, but since im changing everything up and will have lots more avail. volume i would like the better filtering also. Still looking for a 2 micron filter thats short, fits this base and be nice if it had the drain in it like many of them do. ?

Signature600
10-20-2008, 03:55 PM
FS1000 is the Water Separator...the 2 Micron Fuel Filter for that base is the FS5320;)

Chris

stock600
10-20-2008, 04:17 PM
Thank you for the reply, have you ran a FS5320 before, is it a long filter like the FS1000? If so what is the shorter version? Ive looked all over for Fleetguards phone number to call and talk with someone in tech, but thier web site shows no number, i wanted to go with Fleetguard filters one because cummins owns them and thiers a store close to get them from, but you need a part number when you walk in the store because they dont know crap, they just cant look up info on thier systems or books. I hope the # you gave me is a short 2 micron unit, if so this will be the one i try. Thanks. Ryan

MD-LUCKY
10-20-2008, 06:48 PM
I have a wix base with 1-14" threads.

I'm running the BF7633 baldwin. 6 Micron, 300 psi burst. Seems to be working just fine for me.

It is 1 of 3 fuel filters I have on my truck.. I'm a little bit OCD when it comes to filtration. :)

stock600
10-20-2008, 07:49 PM
Wow, we'll i called Baldwin earlier and the BF7633 is a cross over ref. number for the CAT 1R0750 that another member posted and said was a 2 micron? Either way im still not 100% what i'll use yet, i hope to find out that the FS5320 is a short filter, if so i will go that way, if not i'll look for the short version of a 10 micron, wich may be the FS1001..... I wished fleetguard had a number listed on thier site.

psymon
10-20-2008, 08:43 PM
The ff5320 is just a hair under 7" long, Were as the fs1001 is just a hair under 8" including the drain. Hope that helps.

Jim Fulmer
10-20-2008, 10:46 PM
Sorry Ryan, that filterhead P/N is a Fleetguard 014278400-S , that is what I use.

Jim

stock600
10-20-2008, 11:03 PM
Thanks Jim for the complete part number, since they couldnt find the filter i wanted the other day at Cummins, i didnt pick up the base either. I told him to try to find it through Fleetguard and i would do the same. But the spec sheet i read just said it was a 1/2" inlet/outlet, it didnt say it was a o-rind type fitting, what did you use to plumb yours? I am just going all blue twistlock -8 fuel line and -8 fittings, the fitting we talked about in Houston just arrived, the metric to -8 fitting for the inj. pump. No more little lines...
Do you always just run the Recor or whatever filter it was you said you used, i mean have you ever just ran a Fleetguard filter on it, if so which one.
Thanks Jim!
Ryan

MD-LUCKY
10-20-2008, 11:49 PM
Well, I decided to go back and check and see what I switched to. I remembered that the 7633 was a little longer than I wanted to run.

I switched to the FF5332. I'm trying to find the specs on this filter, but it is only like 4-5 inches long.. Where I mounted the base on my truck, it keeps the entire filter up above the frame rail.

I've got 1 or 2 of the 7633 still floating around, and 3 or 4 of the 5332. I will see if I can come up with a few specs for you.

Signature600
10-21-2008, 07:26 AM
Thank you for the reply, have you ran a FS5320 before, is it a long filter like the FS1000? If so what is the shorter version? Ive looked all over for Fleetguards phone number to call and talk with someone in tech, but thier web site shows no number, i wanted to go with Fleetguard filters one because cummins owns them and thiers a store close to get them from, but you need a part number when you walk in the store because they dont know crap, they just cant look up info on thier systems or books. I hope the # you gave me is a short 2 micron unit, if so this will be the one i try. Thanks. Ryan

The FS1212 and FF5320 are the shorter versions...FS1212 being the shorter FS1000;)

I run the FS1212 and FF5320 on my truck!
Chris

Jim Fulmer
10-21-2008, 08:52 AM
Ryan, the filter head requires O-Ring fitting, all I do is go to the local fitting dealer that handles XRP fittings the get what ever size I need. I have two of these filters, one for the stocker system that uses a -6 line and another for the aux system that uses a -10 line.

Brady recommended Racor Filters so that is what I run, they are big, with the water bowl on they are say a total of 9" long, if you need a pic I can post that later.

Jim

stock600
10-21-2008, 09:59 AM
Thanks a bunch guys for the info. I'll update when i get it all together and back running.
Ryan

bgilbert
10-21-2008, 12:43 PM
Signature600 beat me to it. FS1212 or Baldwin BF1212 is the shorter version. Not 100% sure it's 10 micron. On a 12 valve, the stock filter is certainly not 10 micron. More like 25 micron. I would not stress myself out in search of a 2 micron filter for any 12 valve. I've had good luck emailing Fleetguard via their website for tech questions/micron rating requests etc.

Signature600
10-21-2008, 01:17 PM
I think the FS1212 and FS1000 are either 30 or 50 micron water separators;)

Just to get the big stuff!
Chris

stock600
10-21-2008, 01:30 PM
Signature600 beat me to it. FS1212 or Baldwin BF1212 is the shorter version. Not 100% sure it's 10 micron. On a 12 valve, the stock filter is certainly not 10 micron. More like 25 micron. I would not stress myself out in search of a 2 micron filter for any 12 valve. I've had good luck emailing Fleetguard via their website for tech questions/micron rating requests etc.

Good advise and thanks again. Glad to hear the stocker wasnt and good as i thought it was. Im going back up there this evening to pick up the head and a filter or 2, i'll look at them and make a decision. I will def. look at the FS 1212, FS1001, FF5320, and the FF5332. Thanks again guys for all the great info! Ryan

bgilbert
10-21-2008, 01:47 PM
I think the FS1212 and FS1000 are either 30 or 50 micron water separators;)

Just to get the big stuff!
Chris
Says right on the FS1000 filter, 10 micron;). Fleetguard says it's an upgrade of FS1212, so the fs1212 might not filter as well. If you wanted, you could build yourself a dual filter head using two filter heads, fab up a bracket, then use a water separater (FS1000) and a FF (fuel filter).

Signature600
10-21-2008, 02:22 PM
Says right on the FS1000 filter, 10 micron;). Fleetguard says it's an upgrade of FS1212, so the fs1212 might not filter as well. If you wanted, you could build yourself a dual filter head using two filter heads, fab up a bracket, then use a water separater (FS1000) and a FF (fuel filter).

OK, I'll buy that...I was thinking it wasn't that good.

I do know the FS1000 and FS1212 are rated the same, one is just longer/can go longer between changing;)

I run a FS1212 and FF5320 on 2 filter bases...no stocker!

Chris

stock600
10-21-2008, 10:44 PM
Well i purchased everything and happy with what i got. Jim was so right about the inlet and outlet sizes, there not 1/2"npt like the book said, thier instead -10An o-ring. I got the -10 to -8 fittings and o-rings, all other fittings, filter head and ended up going with the FS1212. I looked at all the filters they had for this base and liked the 1212 the best. The FF5320 acually says its a 2 micron right on the filter but it doesnt have a water drain that i wanted. The FS1212 is the shorter length that i wanted, has the built in drain, is a 10 micron unit like the FS1000, and is a good price. Already got a bracket fabbed up and all looks like it will work very well. The only kink in the system, and the only part in the system that want be true -8 line is the 6 inches or so of hard line comming out of the top of the mechanical lift pump, there is just no room to do another -8 fitting there, and its metric as well. I just left a few inches there and plan to silver solder a -8 steel male fitting on it and running -8 twist lock from there down to the inlet of the new filter base and from there -8 up the the inlet of the p-7100. Thanks tons for the filter info guys, it all helped a lot! Maybe some of this post will give some others an idea how to upgrade thier stock system up to a big line kit. Again that Cummins filter base number is # 014278400-S
Ryan