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1BADRAM
03-16-2009, 07:39 PM
Just wanted people to know that I beileve that you don't need the cam sensor for the p-pump 24V in the years 98.5-2000. My truck is a 99' and I did the cam sensor in the back of the timing cover where the timing pin goes. Everything works on my truck, so I got curious the other day and unplugged it and everything still works. Just wanted to share it with everyone.
CL2000
03-17-2009, 12:31 AM
Thank you I have had so many mixed answers on this
Tate
03-17-2009, 01:17 AM
You have CEL on because of it?

Anyone have a pic of a cam gear from an 01-02? I'd be curious what the diameter of the tone ring is. I posted on another thread about the cam gear out of a 2k engine that I tore apart, that has what looks like a 12v style cam gear, where it only has a hole in it for what looks like a timing pin. Could be an upside for us 98-00 trucks, could put a timing in in it instead of making a marker for the damper.
1BADRAM
03-17-2009, 05:18 AM
TATE...Your check engine light will already be on because of the VP-44 not being plugged in.
Rods
03-17-2009, 07:14 AM
My buddy didnt add the cam sensor to his and everything works cause the sensors on the 98.5/00 are near the crank I was told . I never realy looked into it but I wondered y
zstroken
03-17-2009, 07:18 AM
Yea the early VP trucks the tach will work without the cam sensor. I think the 01/02 don't have the crank sensor, so they will require the adapter.
JFlagg
03-17-2009, 07:56 AM
Yea the early VP trucks the tach will work without the cam sensor. I think the 01/02 don't have the crank sensor, so they will require the adapter.

Dan, thqat is correct. My 02 has a CAM sensor, but doesn't have the CRANK sensor. Just a tone ring on the back of the cam gear.
dzlfarmboy
03-17-2009, 08:02 AM
Yeah the 98.5-2000 have both sensors and the 01-02 engines just have the Cam sensor so the adapter is a must for them. But not required on the 98.5-2000.
Tate
03-17-2009, 04:37 PM
TATE...Your check engine light will already be on because of the VP-44 not being plugged in.

Mines not.
parttimepuller
03-22-2009, 10:15 AM
Dan, thqat is correct. My 02 has a CAM sensor, but doesn't have the CRANK sensor. Just a tone ring on the back of the cam gear.

Where did buy your cam sensor kit at Haisley???
CL2000
03-23-2009, 02:04 AM
Mines not.

How?
Highfinance97
04-02-2009, 05:41 PM
We are in the process of finishing up a P-pumped 99 with an 01 engine in it due to a bad 53 block....

Having issues getting it to charge and of course the tach does NOT work..

Tried putting in a 01 ECM and still no good

Any ideas???
CL2000
04-03-2009, 12:44 AM
Did you put a cam sensor in with the 01 computer? 01/02 cam sensors are different and they need the offset adapter
Tate
04-03-2009, 01:04 AM
How?

Can't really answer that. All I unplugged was the VP and the APPS, nothing else.
20cumminsram05
04-03-2009, 01:30 PM
We are in the process of finishing up a P-pumped 99 with an 01 engine in it due to a bad 53 block....

Having issues getting it to charge and of course the tach does NOT work..

Tried putting in a 01 ECM and still no good

Any ideas???

Did you put a cam sensor in with the 01 computer? 01/02 cam sensors are different and they need the offset adapter


yup, we used the '01 cam sensor too.... still no go
dzlfarmboy
04-03-2009, 01:51 PM
We are in the process of finishing up a P-pumped 99 with an 01 engine in it due to a bad 53 block....

Having issues getting it to charge and of course the tach does NOT work..

Tried putting in a 01 ECM and still no good

Any ideas???

Prob should of used the 99 Crank with the tone ring on it. I believe the 99 trucks and ECM would be looking for a signal from the crank sensor.
Highfinance97
04-03-2009, 02:00 PM
Prob should of used the 99 Crank with the tone ring on it. I believe the 99 trucks and ECM would be looking for a signal from the crank sensor.

Yeah thats what we figured out :bang

Any allteratives??
20cumminsram05
04-03-2009, 02:01 PM
Prob should of used the 99 Crank with the tone ring on it. I believe the 99 trucks and ECM would be looking for a signal from the crank sensor.



We discussed that yesterday too... :bang
CL2000
04-04-2009, 11:06 PM
Are you guys using the adapter that bolts on with no griding? The one that bolts in with no griding will not work on 01/02.
lmills
04-20-2009, 09:06 PM
Can't really answer that. All I unplugged was the VP and the APPS, nothing else.
ECM must be happy not seeing the VP lol
SmokinCummins
04-21-2009, 08:27 AM
yup, we used the '01 cam sensor too.... still no go

You will need the 01 adapter for the cam sensor not just the sensor.
Highfinance97
04-21-2009, 09:01 AM
You will need the 01 adapter for the cam sensor not just the sensor.

We had the 01 sensor and it wasnt working so we got an 01 ECM and matched up the wires on the harness....

Its now charging and running....

P-Pumped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgC7LN2j_FM)