July 9 - Big Butler Fair - Pennsylvania

[rickFPP]

BIG BUTLER FAIR TRUCK PULLS
Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 7:00pm
Big Butler Fair – Prospect, Pennsylvania

ORDER OF PULLING CLASSES
TWO SIDE-BY-SIDE TRACKS

TRACK ONE – Nearest to the Grandstand (WPTTPA Sled)

6200 lb. STREET LICENSED GASOLINE 4x4 TRUCKS
FIRST CLASS – ENTRY CLOSES AT 6:30pm
OPEN-TO-THE- WORLD
RULES OF USA-EAST TO BE FOLLOWED - $25.00 entry fee
2009 POINTS FOR USA-EAST WILL BE AWARDED
PURSE: 150 – 125 - 100 – 80 – 55 – 35 – 25

8000 lb. STREET LICENSED DIESEL 4x4 TRUCKS (2.6 class)
OPEN-TO-THE- WORLD
RULES OF USA-EAST TO BE FOLLOWED - $25.00 entry fee
2009 POINTS FOR USA-EAST WILL BE AWARDED
PURSE: 150 – 125 - 100 – 80 – 55 – 35 – 25

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TRACK TWO – Pit Side (‘Decision Maker’ Sled)

8000 lb. PRO STOCK DIESEL 4x4 TRUCKS
OPEN-TO-THE- WORLD
RULES OF USA-EAST TO BE FOLLOWED - $25.00 entry fee
2009 POINTS FOR USA-EAST WILL BE AWARDED
Purse: 525 – 425 – 320 – 220 – 160 – 110 – 85 – 75 – 65 – 60 – 55 – 50

MODIFIED 4x4 {‘Run What Ya Brung’ Series)
OPEN-TO-THE- WORLD GAS TRUCKS and DIESEL TRUCKS
RULES OF USA-EAST TO BE FOLLOWED - $25.00 entry fee
2009 POINTS FOR USA-EAST WILL BE AWARDED
PURSE: 500 – 400 – 300 – 200 – 150 – 125 – 100 – 85 – 75 – 65 – 50


RULES: Full Pull Productions Pulling Series (http://www.fullpullproductions.com) QUESTIONS: 1.888.FULLPUL

[malibu795]

goign to try and make this.

[CTD03]

goign to try and make this.

cant wait send me a pm if you do

[malibu795]

sent you a PM
might bend my hitch again :(
SUSPENSION MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO INCHES OF DOWNWARD MOVEMENT AT ALL TIMES. NO BLOCKS ARE ALLOWED BETWEEN AXLE HOUSING AND TRUCK FRAME THAT WOULD RESTRICT THE NECESSARY TWO INCHES OF MOVEMENT. LIFT KITS ARE ACCEPTABLE. NO SOLID SUSPENSIONS ARE PERMITTED. MUST USE AN O.E.M. STOCK STYLE SUSPENSION.

[ktmracer21]

def headin up

[06RAMCTD]

I'll be there! Hey KTMracer21. Are you running a TC lock up switch? I'm having trouble getting mine to work.

[malibu795]

goign to try and make this.

cant wait send me a pm if you do

dotn know if i will be allowed to pull.... getting flaky answers from the FPP president.

one day he is for it and willing to wrok with you... next day comes across as the worst idea that was made......................... :bang

[TrailerproPop]

They have no provisions for more than 26" hitch height.

[malibu795]

They have no provisions for more than 26" hitch height.
telling me that a a tape measuere and a flat plate of steel wont work?..
no expidition pull either?

rich said he would allow it right before the mercer pull few months back (1st pull of the season)
and would be willing to work with me. along with another guy that wants to build a 2wd pullign truck.

now few day before a pull were a 2wd is planing on showing up. i get the "kick dirt" type of repsonse on the matter..

im not pulling for points or cash
i dont see the problem here?

[bna5017]

i'll be in the stands

[rickFPP]

let me addressthe FPP policy on this TWD issue.

1. the hitch height for the class is 26". every truck that runs in the class for the money will have a 26" drawbar height.
2. FPP is always very willing to allow 'something different' so long as it does not violate the existing rules //or// so long as it runs as an EXHIBITION.
3. our tech committee will be very glad to look at this situation in the future once sufficient data has been gathered.
one or two runs is NOT sufficient data.
4. this has been the FPP policy since the issue of TWD trucks in the diesel class first arose in the early Spring.

[Skeeter Control]

I'll be there for sure. I'm even gonna let my girlfriend pull so you better watch out guys.

[malibu795]

let me addressthe FPP policy on this TWD issue.

1. the hitch height for the class is 26". every truck that runs in the class for the money will have a 26" drawbar height.
2. FPP is always very willing to allow 'something different' so long as it does not violate the existing rules //or// so long as it runs as an EXHIBITION.
3. our tech committee will be very glad to look at this situation in the future once sufficient data has been gathered.
one or two runs is NOT sufficient data.
4. this has been the FPP policy since the issue of TWD trucks in the diesel class first arose in the early Spring.

i have no problem hooking as an exhibition pull. i apologize for not making that known :bang

[CTD03]

i cant bring my hitch if you need it but it doesnt go to 30"

[malibu795]

i cant bring my hitch if you need it but it doesnt go to 30"

i got mine taken care of.. it wil go way past 30" iff needed ;)

[nwpadmax]

Malibu, the other thing to keep in mind is that Butler is one of the biggest truck draws of the year. In the past few years there was one track and the pull would last into the wee hours. In these cases, exhibition runs are generally not as welcome as they would be at a smaller, less well attended event (or a pure pull, not a fair).

Now this year they're having two tracks so hopefully that alleviates some of the time component. Most fairs prefer to have things over at a reasonable hour due to noise and traffic.

I think you'll find FPP to be a pretty good bunch. Work with them and they will work with you.

[JOHNBOY]

I think you'll find FPP to be a pretty good bunch. Work with them and they will work with you.
Wise Man!:clap:

[malibu795]

im aiming to get up there about 530ish tomorrow

[RJFPP]

Looking forward to see the TWD Diesel run at Butler on Thursday.

Hey Matt am I ever going to see you again at a pull or just have to text you while I'm at a pull?:ft:
RJ
USA East Tech crew:rules:

[malibu795]

Looking forward to see the TWD Diesel run at Butler on Thursday.

Hey Matt am I ever going to see you again at a pull or just have to text you while I'm at a pull?:ft:
RJ
USA East Tech crew:rules:

RJ..

take it your the tech guy? i will be looking for you to see what we can work out.

:Cheer:

[JOHNBOY]

Hey Matt am I ever going to see you again at a pull or just have to text you while I'm at a pull?:ft:
RJ
USA East Tech crew:rules:
:kick: :hehe::hehe::hehe:

[PowerMax]

Congrats on the win tonight Pops.

[malibu795]

Congrats on the win tonight Pops.

x2 as well..

it was nicce metting you are all Pops.. thanks for coming up and introducing yourself :Cheer:

do wish i have known i was pulling on a "sand track" did low 2XX'

need work.

[JOHNBOY]

Good Job Dale!

Congrats to the Brothers Diesel crew getting there first Pro Stock Win!
Long time coming.

[PowerMax]

x2 as well..

it was nicce metting you are all Pops.. thanks for coming up and introducing yourself :Cheer:

do wish i have known i was pulling on a "sand track" did low 2XX'

need work.


Congrats on your hook as well Adam. Hope to meet up with you at another event.

[05smoker]

Congrats Pat and Dale!:bow:

[trailerpro]

Bruce Leveto (BDL)
YouTube - BDL at Butler Fair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uslSWv0k1-k)
John Jordan (Johnboy)
YouTube - Johnboy at Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vf4cWqbBHU)

[trailerpro]

Adam Wildman (Malibu)
YouTube - Malibu at Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmDnEbJ4a8s)
Dale Bennett (trailerpropop)
YouTube - Dale Bennett at Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThR1riMoBCI)
Calvin Miller (wannabesledpuller)
YouTube - Calvin Miller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04mCOFLwZ9c)

[rawdog]

vids of the whole class?

[malibu795]

Adam Wildman (Malibu)
YouTube - Malibu at Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmDnEbJ4a8s)
Dale Bennett (trailerpropop)
YouTube - Dale Bennett at Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThR1riMoBCI)
Calvin Miller (wannabesledpuller)
YouTube - Calvin Miller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04mCOFLwZ9c)

thanks for the video:Cheer:

[nwpadmax]

Hey Matt am I ever going to see you again at a pull or just have to text you while I'm at a pull?:ft:
RJ


Hey now RJ, that's a :kick: !

I got sick as hell for about 2 weeks - turned out to be Lyme disease. Egad. There's 2 weeks I'll never get back.

So that gave me a lot of time to think and I came to the conclusion that I need to stop hooking, and start building the engine/driveline that will allow me to be successful in 2010. I've put it off too many times already because I like pulling so much that I spend all my spare time doing that. And that has to change. Not being there last night really tore me up, but I needed to break the habit.

So if I work hard, I may make some test hooks later in the year with it. I miss seeing you guys already. FPP is a great family.

This is just one of those "bite the bullet" moments for me.

[trailerpro]

vids of the whole class?

I got about the first 5 trucks in Pro Stock, then they kicked everbody off the track, so didn't get the whole class.

[JOHNBOY]

Bruce Leveto (BDL)
YouTube - BDL at Butler Fair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uslSWv0k1-k)
John Jordan (Johnboy)
YouTube - Johnboy at Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vf4cWqbBHU)

Thanks Pat!

Man you just cant see how wild that ride was. It was rough in the cab for sure.

[RJFPP]

Matt:( Sorry to hear about that with the lyme stuff. That can be pretty nasty.
Also sorry to hear that you won't be out this year but I can understand why. Looking forward to seeing you with the "new" duramax in 2010. Hope to see you at a pull thought this summer sometime.

Sorry Pops about getting booted from the track. Thanks for all who pulled last night it was a record number of trucks that hooked:rockwoot: The fair was very happy :)

[JOHNBOY]

Matt:( Sorry to hear about that with the lyme stuff. That can be pretty nasty.
Also sorry to hear that you won't be out this year but I can understand why. Looking forward to seeing you with the "new" duramax in 2010. Hope to see you at a pull thought this summer sometime.

Sorry Pops about getting booted from the track. Thanks for all who pulled last night it was a record number of trucks that hooked:rockwoot: The fair was very happy :)

Good Job announcing last night! About time you make Rick work for a living.LOL My vids are downloading right now so you will be able to hear your handy work.:clap:

[JOHNBOY]

PROSTOCK DIESEL TRUCKS

Position Name Vehicle Name/Color Distance


1 Joe Gambino 97 Dodge Brother's Diesel FP/318.09
2 Vince Aftuck 99 Dodge Red FP/309.81
3 Bill DeBenedictis 98 Dodge The Real Deal FP/308.63
4 John Lorenz 96 Dodge Greywolfe FP/173.02
5 Bruce Leveto 06 Chevy Deju' Blue 294.41 BDL
6 Justin Faulkner 96 Dodge Black 293.78
7 Shawn Hodges 01 Dodge On Borrowed Time 293.61
8 Bill Bowser 01 Dodge Old Blue 281.82
9 Carson Stauffer 00 Ford 287.30
10 John Jordan 02 GMC The Big Stick 284.75 JOHNBOY
11 Hunter Snyder 96 Dodge 300' + Change 282.24
12 Sam Tatalovic 95 Dodge Gone Wild 282.1
13 Ralp Thompson 04 Dodge Red 264.42
14 Justin Wilkins 94 Dodge Bad Reputation 201.58
15 Amanda Hauck 01 Dodge Skeeter Control 186.00
16 Tim Jackson 02 GMC Blue 160.84




MODIFIED R.W.Y.B TRUCKS

Position Name Vehicle Name/Color Distance

1 Scott Blair 97 Dodge Cuz Its Bad 291.36
2 Wayne Greier 97 Dodge Resurrected Ram 287.33
3 Joe Gambino 97 Dodge Brother's Diesel 281.41
4 George Nichelson 39 Chevy Heavy Metal 279.76
5 Calvin Miller 2001 Dodge Runnin In The Red 279.10
6 Fred Virgili 1976 Ford Never Satisfied 278.32
7 Eric Berkey 1950 Chevy Yellow 276.44
8 Bruce Leveto 2006 Chevy Deja Blu 275.43 BDL
9 Mark Tatalovic Dodge Mighty Mouse 271.62
10 Eddie Zedreck Chevy Little Irish II 270.63
11 Chris Mast 01 Dodge Skeeter Control 268.44
12 Doug Martin 1969 Chevy Huffman's Auto - Black 267.66
13 Jack Kiehl 80 Chevy Size Matters 267.43
14 Bill Bowser 2001 Dodge Old Blue I 266.32
15 Sam Tatalovic 1985 Chevy White Night 260.2
16 Dennis Nichelson 71 Chevy Wild Thing 259.06
17 Jeff Mitchell 77 Ford Tragic Magic 253.93
18 Carson Stauffer 00 Ford White 249.22
19 Shawn Hodges 01 Dodge On Borrowed Time 198.74
20 Harry Geibel 93 Ford Orange 183.38
21 James Griffin 78 Ford Gage's Carriage 0.26



2.6 STREET DIESEL 4X4

Position Name Vehicle Name/Color Distance

1 Dale Bennett 04 Chevy Social Security FP Trailerpropops
2 Edward Dicks 04 Dodge 289.59
3 Marvin Coblentz 01 Dodge White 283.66
4 Dan Pfeffer 03 Dodge Black 280.58
5 Bill Bowser Dodge Old Blue NOS Exp. II 280.3
6 Brent Shick 94 Dodge Pullin to Please 272.47
7 Charlie Reckart 94 Dodge Green 251.03
8 Thomas Roush 99 Ford Black/Gold 249.4
9 Bill Bowser 1997 Dodge Old Blue…Spare Parts 240.75
10 Cody Burkhardt 1998 Dodge It Ain't Blue But It'll Do 238.36
11 Eric George 08 Ford 235.73
12 Casey Gildensleeve 02 Dodge Wasted Wages 234.37
13 Kris Davis 05 Dodge White 232.15
14 Philip Ketzel 06 Dodge Silver 231.81
15 Steve Longwell 06 Dodge Red 231.35
16 John Wallace 08 Ford White 225.94
17 Paul Craft 03 Dodge Black 224.0
18 Darwin Hohmann 04 Ford White 210.77
19 Barton Duva 08 Dodge Tan 206.35
20 Eric Moser 06 Ford White 205.59
21 Adam Oldfield 05 Chevy Blue 200.8
22 Dan Hastings 00 Ford Silver 199.34
23 Ed Kennedy 96 Dodge White 193.21
24 Graham Maxwell 96 Ford red 187.42
25 Scott Riemer 08 GMC Red 180.33
26 Thaddeus Overly 98 Dodge Green/Silver 179.48
27 Gerry Geibel 89 Ford red 177.3
28 Eric Moyer 08 Ford White 172.04
29 Nathan August 94 Ford Red/Silver 169.0
30 Doug Walt 02 Dodge Grey 103.81
2wd Exibition Adam Wildman 02 Chevy Silver "Two Wheel Drive" 213.16 malibu795

[BigBadDodge]

Good Job Dale!

Congrats to the Brothers Diesel crew getting there first Pro Stock Win!
Long time coming.

Ditto, good job guy's :rockwoot:

BBD

[Sledpuller]

Anyone else notice where that 2wd would have placed if hed been let in the class?:hehe:

[cpr_454]

congrats Dale! Glad to see the Duramax up front!

[JOHNBOY]

Some vids from my camera.

YouTube - FPP PS Big Butler Fair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TURKGPaud0w)

YouTube - Sam Tatalovic FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=878Cy2ugZDY)

YouTube - Shawn Hodges FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3AaoJ5F5Y)

YouTube - Wyotech FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lcnWSbTEf8)

YouTube - John Lorenz FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7UwKYv81Y)

YouTube - Carson Stauffer FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjYWOIak38g)

YouTube - BDL FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_PamImBw8)

YouTube - Brothers Diesel FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INaSWwoiwA4)

[06RAMCTD]

Any one get video the street class?

[Ragged Edge]

Some vids from my camera.

YouTube - FPP PS Big Butler Fair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TURKGPaud0w)

YouTube - Sam Tatalovic FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=878Cy2ugZDY)

YouTube - Shawn Hodges FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3AaoJ5F5Y)

YouTube - Wyotech FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lcnWSbTEf8)

YouTube - John Lorenz FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7UwKYv81Y)

YouTube - Carson Stauffer FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjYWOIak38g)

YouTube - BDL FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_PamImBw8)

YouTube - Brothers Diesel FPP PS Butler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INaSWwoiwA4)

Did you happen to video wilkins and the bad reputation truck we just was wanting to see what it looked like.

[JOHNBOY]

Did you happen to video wilkins and the bad reputation truck we just was wanting to see what it looked like.

PMed you.

[nwpadmax]

Anyone else notice where that 2wd would have placed if hed been let in the class?:hehe:

17th.

What was it you were trying to point out?

[Sledpuller]

Just pointing it out.....

[rawdog]

that truck has had some issues the past few weeks.i am sure he will be back with the leaders in no time.

[nwpadmax]

that truck has had some issues the past few weeks.i am sure he will be back with the leaders in no time.


How much you wanna bet a 2wd never cracks the top 5?

[malibu795]

How much you wanna bet a 2wd never cracks the top 5?

100.00$ you got it?
BTW
lynn chapman has placed 3rd on a brand new setup in KOTTPA rules
Gettin her dialed in.... - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together (http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60674)
Well made a run at my hometown fair wendesday night. And I dont think you could have knocked the smile off my face with a sledge hammer . pulled a 331.80 good enough for third place. 2nd was at 342.** , 1st was 35*.**

She came out of hole good and picked up rpm just like i had hoped. I remember watching a few of the hot tractor classes go down the track pushing a flame out the exhaust, and i said to myself "Boy wish mine would do that." Well about 100ft out about an 8 inch cone popped up and stayed there till the run was over, it had never done that before....
And then got to the end and spun out with almost 1000lb out back.

Heres a pic coming out the gate. Now a few more tweaks and she will be right.

Lynn

[nwpadmax]

Yep. You don't touch the top 5 at an FPP 2.6 event and you owe me $100.

If you get top 5 at an FPP 2.6 event then I owe you $100.

[nwpadmax]

One major thing you are forgetting -

No FPP 2.6 class will ever have a sled set so light as to run 350'. Ain't gonna happen. And that's what will keep you out of the top 5.

[malibu795]

Yep. You don't touch the top 5 at an FPP 2.6 event and you owe me $100.

If you get top 5 at an FPP 2.6 event then I owe you $100.

no sir i dont. i quoated what you said and now your changing it.

to bad FPP doesnt have a stock charger class. ~500hp is not going to hang with a 700+hp truck

you said 2wd couldnt be competative, move a sled, top 10, top 5 :blahblah1:

shall i get your posts form last 2 year Mr Cooper?

funny you edit you quote as i was typing.

[nwpadmax]

The 2wd is still not competitive against up-to-date good 4wd competition.

Top 5 at some obscure brush pull with a flyweight sled does not count.

The only org with stock charger classes is NADM so you better brush up for Numidia to try making your case again. You want the $100 bet for an NADM hook?

[malibu795]

we shall see how i do saturday against like powered trucks as i only have 6 hooks on the truck.

BTW who is the hot ws truck to beat?
as for the bet reffering directly at how i do i will hold off for now.
but as a blanekt statement that you have been staying might want to re-word it ;) already be proven wrong couple times


as for KOTTPA beign a burshpull series. thought they were little bit bigger then that.

[JOHNBOY]

that truck has had some issues the past few weeks.i am sure he will be back with the leaders in no time.

How much you wanna bet a 2wd never cracks the top 5?

FWIW I think Rawdog is refering to Justin Wilkins not malibu795

I give all the credit in the world to malibu795.
Yes he is out gunned but he showed up and pulled.:rockwoot:
I refuse to knock a guy for trying.

[nwpadmax]

Shoot, I don't know who is winning WS. After Dale Calendar moved on, I don't think anyone is repeating what he did but I don't pay much attention to it.

Where ya goin' Saturday?

BTW if you want to try a pair of 35x12.50 Trxus STS on H2s, you can borrow my old ones as long as you're not pulling on gravel (it shreds 'em). They are not new, but not worn out quite yet.

[nwpadmax]

I refuse to knock a guy for trying.

I am not knocking what he's doing. If he's having fun, go for it.

I'm just not agreeing with what is being claimed about being competitive.


You're right, on second thought, the reference by rawdog is probably JW.

Sorry for the cornfusion.

[nwpadmax]

but as a blanekt statement that you have been staying might want to re-word it ;) already be proven wrong couple times

Really? By who, and where?

I'm right as rain on this one. Show me one 2wd truck that has made a top 5 at some reasonably recognized event.

[malibu795]

Shoot, I don't know who is winning WS. After Dale Calendar moved on, I don't think anyone is repeating what he did but I don't pay much attention to it.

Where ya goin' Saturday?

BTW if you want to try a pair of 35x12.50 Trxus STS on H2s, you can borrow my old ones as long as you're not pulling on gravel (it shreds 'em). They are not new, but not worn out quite yet.
saturday july 18th i will be at numidia.. i am headed to youngstown middle of the week to get parts. i aprecirat the offer. and would liek to take you up on it.
Really? By who, and where?
you miss post 48?

I'm right as rain on this one. Show me one 2wd truck that has made a top 5 at some reasonably recognized event.

and thats the 3rd or 4th time you changed your statment?

[kino_fab]

Where is all of the believers? lol. Once we get Fireman450's truck lined out and running better, we will be at a "Reasonably Recognized" event and prove to you just how competitive a 2wd can be.

[nwpadmax]

Where is all of the believers? lol. Once we get Fireman450's truck lined out and running better, we will be at a "Reasonably Recognized" event and prove to you just how competitive a 2wd can be.

If you get it done against reasonable competition, you'll get props from me. That's always been the case.

I just don't put up with unfounded jibbajabba and keyboard jockeying loaded with excuses and yabbuts.

Footage is the only thing that matters. Let's let it speak for itself.

[malibu795]

Footage is the only thing that matters. Let's let it speak for itself.

if this is true why are you jabutting what lynn and i and the guys in MO doing?

[nwpadmax]

if this is true why are you jabutting what lynn and i and the guys in MO doing?

Because you're not hanging in there with respected 4wd trucks yet.

You get a top-10 in Numidia against good competition and I'll start eating crow. Since they have a stock turbo class and you already have a built motor, you shouldn't have any excuses other than driver screwup. I'll give you a mulligan on that but if you want to demonstrate being competitive, ya gotta show something there.

And don't jerk the sled like you did last night. That was a bust-parts move, rookie!

[kino_fab]

No need for yabuts or excuses. Just need a little time and money (which is running scarce) to get some bugs worked out. The trucks Lynn has been pulling against are respected trucks. Some were finishing in the top 10 at Scheids last year. Rods, and Teddybear are 2 that I know of.

[malibu795]

Because you're not hanging in there with respected 4wd trucks yet.

You get a top-10 in Numidia against good competition and I'll start eating crow. Since they have a stock turbo class and you already have a built motor, you shouldn't have any excuses other than driver screwup. I'll give you a mulligan on that but if you want to demonstrate being competitive, ya gotta show something there.

And don't jerk the sled like you did last night. That was a bust-parts move, rookie!

course im not goign to hang in a 2.6 class right now... no air/fuel :bang

as for sat night that was driver error.

[malibu795]

Because you're not hanging in there with respected 4wd trucks yet.

You get a top-10 in Numidia against good competition and I'll start eating crow. Since they have a stock turbo class and you already have a built motor, you shouldn't have any excuses other than driver screwup. I'll give you a mulligan on that but if you want to demonstrate being competitive, ya gotta show something there.

comming form a guy that dumped XX,XXX into air and fuel mods now has to basicly sit a season out till the bottom part get up to par... is like doing a finish cut before hte rough cuts are done or building a roof befor ehte walls are up.. it only getts you so far. :bang

i had 10k i built the bottom so i wouldnt have to worry would it spiting rods out.... down the road

didnt (adam)TBBD loose a stock block form running wiht you a while ago?

[nwpadmax]

comming form a guy that dumped XX,XXX into air and fuel mods now has to basicly sit a season out till the bottom part get up to par... is like doing a finish cut before hte rough cuts are done or building a roof befor ehte walls are up.. it only getts you so far. :bang


You're way off on your math since I bought everything right.

Funny, it still runs great, and I did a hell of a lot of winning with the combo (something you have yet to experience). I'm just picking a smart time to take a break and re-tool. Was I taking a risk? Sure. So what. You're taking a giant risk with the way you're running your tranny. You smoke the C1s in that thing in one hook and you'll be begging to even get home. So we're pretty even there...your roof has no walls either.

I could still come out tomorrow and put a whooping on you, but all we'd hear is a list of yabbuts.

So go do something notable at Numidia and start earning respect instead of trying to convince people by endlessly talking about it.

Yes, Adam blew through a piston, but it was an LLY, so no surprise there.

You should take a cue from Kino. No BS, just (to paraphrase) "we're working on it and we'll pull with the big boys and see what we can do." I respect that. Best of luck to them.

[wanabsledpuller]

no disrespect to any of you,but come on boys,start turning wrenches an let the trucks do the talk'n,,an a lil less on the puter,

[malibu795]

no disrespect to any of you,but come on boys,start turning wrenches an let the trucks do the talk'n,,an a lil less on the puter,

none talken..

mat has been ribbing me for 2+ years now about the whole 2wd pulling idea :hehe:
so far i have been out classed and out powered no worries... im learning ;)

it will be nice to see what i can do come saturday with like powered trucks :st:

[wanabsledpuller]

I know its prolly a lot more money,but you need to build a two wheel peel with a mod engine,cause its not gona be worth the effort till you do,and then the truck will talk,an they will prolly get you a class,but till then its like pee'n in the wind,

[malibu795]

you need to build a two wheel peel with a mod engine,cause its not gona be worth the effort till you do,and then the truck will talk,an they will prolly get you a class,but till then its like pee'n in the wind,

dont think a 500hp 2wd can compete with a 500hp 4wd with the current NADM rule setup?

why is that?

[wanabsledpuller]

an remember,,Its the set up,and yes four wheels will do better,so if you want to try a two wheel peel,you gota have twice the horsepower,so build it ,an i would throw some big tires on too while your at it

[kino_fab]

an remember,,Its the set up,and yes four wheels will do better,so if you want to try a two wheel peel,you gota have twice the horsepower,so build it ,an i would throw some big tires on too while your at it

Not to be an ass or anything, but it has been proven many times around here (in the naturally aspirated gasser classes) that a 2wd can out pull a 4wd. I wish I could find the video from a few years back. We were at a pull with a "run whatcha brung" class. 4 5800lb 2wds, and 5 6200lb 4wds in the class, along with the locals bringing out thier daily drivers aswell. All the true pullers had DOT tires and around 7-800hp on racing gas. 1st and 2nd were 2wd's, 3rd was a 4wd, can't remember the rest. This same occurance has happened quite a few times in years past. I know by watching the video's of Lynn's truck seems that he needs double the HP as the 4wds to compete, but his truck is probably barely making 400hp if not less (way over fueled). Once we get it in the 550-600hp range, it should be game on from there.

[nwpadmax]

no disrespect to any of you,but come on boys,start turning wrenches an let the trucks do the talk'n,,an a lil less on the puter,

OK Dad! :hehe:

I won't rib Adam any more. *bdh*




At least until he gets back from Numidia.
LOL

[wanabsledpuller]

yes son,,,,,be nice, grrrrrrr,you rookies now days,