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carfichris
09-07-2009, 10:28 PM
This Saturday Engineered Diesel is sponsoring an #8000 Hot Diesel class up in Kent City, Michigan. Purse is at $1500 so far, working on getting first place to $1000 and paying top 5 places. $25 entry fee. Rules and event flyer below.

MTTP HOT DIESEL UNLIMITED TRUCK RULES
All decisions made by a MTTP official are final.
HOT DIESEL
The Hot Diesel Unlimited class is designed for full -bodied 1 ton or less pulling trucks. With a maximum weight of 8000lbs.
DRIVERS:
Must be 16 years of age. All drivers must have a valid driver’s license. Drivers shall not be under the influence of drugs or alcohol, and must drive their trucks in a safe manner at all times when at the pull.
BATTERIES:
Batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver’s compartment.
BODY:
Fiberglass hoods are prohibited.
CHASSIS:
Wheel tubes, back-half conversions, tube chassis, etc., are all prohibited.
BALLAST:
Ballast is permitted. Hanging weights are permitted but must be securely mounted and may not extend more than 60 inches from the center line of the front axle.
DRIVELINE:
An OEM transmission, transfer case, and axles is mandatory. It must have been optioned in a one-ton or smaller pickup.
DRIVER RESTRAINT SYSTEM:
The OEM restraint system is mandatory and must be worn. Or a three inch wide driver restraint system labeled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1.
DRIVESHAFT LOOPS:
All trucks must have at least six inch wide u-joint shields around all drive shafts u-joints, u-joint shields
must be constructed out of at least ¼ inch steel or 3/8 inch aluminum with the u-joint centered in it. In
addition there must be at least one drive shaft loop in the middle of each drive shaft.
ENGINE:
The engine block must have been available in a one ton or smaller pick-up truck.
EXHAUST:
All vehicles must be equipped to direct exhaust upward or downward. Two 3/8 inch min. diameter bolts
must be placed in the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern within one inch of each other as close to the turbo
as practical.
FIRE EXTINGUISHER:
A fire extinguisher is mandatory. It must be easily accessible and visible.
AIR SHUTOFF:
The vehicle must be equipped with an air shutoff. A master control for your air shutoff must be located
at the back of the vehicle next to the hitch point; it must have a two inch diameter steel ring and be
clearly visible to the hook man. A fuel shutoff is also very highly recommended.
FUEL INJECTION PUMP:
The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock appearing, OEM engine model-specific pump only. Twin
CP3’s and Hpop’s are permitted.
HITCH:
The hitch must be a “REESE” style hitch. Reinforcements are permitted. "Drawbar" style hitches are permitted.
The hitches height from the ground may not exceed 26” for 4x4 and 30” for 2x4. Must have a hook
point at least 44 inches from the center of the rear axle. The hooking point must have a minimum 3.00
inch by 3.75 inch inside diameter opening for the sled hook.
NITROUS OXIDE:
Nitrous oxide is prohibited. No other oxygen extenders are allowed.
PROPANE:
Propane is prohibited.
REAR SUSPENSION:
Traction bars and devices are permitted. Suspension must maintain a minimum shock travel of 1 inch.
TIRES:
Tires must be DOT street tires. Cut tires are prohibited. A maximum tire diameter of 35 inch.
TRANSMISSIONS:
Transmissions (manual and automatics) must have a transmission / bell housing blanket meeting SFI
4.1.
TURBOCHARGER:
There is no limit on Turbocharger size or configuration.
WATER INJECTION:
Water injection is permitted.

GRotman
09-08-2009, 09:36 AM
This Saturday Engineered Diesel is sponsoring an #8000 Hot Diesel class up in Kent City, Michigan. Purse is at $1500 so far, working on getting first place to $1000 and paying top 5 places. $25 entry fee. Rules and event flyer below.

MTTP HOT DIESEL UNLIMITED TRUCK RULES
All decisions made by a MTTP official are final.
HOT DIESEL
The Hot Diesel Unlimited class is designed for full -bodied 1 ton or less pulling trucks. With a maximum weight of 8000lbs.
DRIVERS:
Must be 16 years of age. All drivers must have a valid driver’s license. Drivers shall not be under the influence of drugs or alcohol, and must drive their trucks in a safe manner at all times when at the pull.
BATTERIES:
Batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver’s compartment.
BODY:
Fiberglass hoods are prohibited.
CHASSIS:
Wheel tubes, back-half conversions, tube chassis, etc., are all prohibited.
BALLAST:
Ballast is permitted. Hanging weights are permitted but must be securely mounted and may not extend more than 60 inches from the center line of the front axle.
DRIVELINE:
An OEM transmission, transfer case, and axles is mandatory. It must have been optioned in a one-ton or smaller pickup.
DRIVER RESTRAINT SYSTEM:
The OEM restraint system is mandatory and must be worn. Or a three inch wide driver restraint system labeled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1.
DRIVESHAFT LOOPS:
All trucks must have at least six inch wide u-joint shields around all drive shafts u-joints, u-joint shields
must be constructed out of at least ¼ inch steel or 3/8 inch aluminum with the u-joint centered in it. In
addition there must be at least one drive shaft loop in the middle of each drive shaft.
ENGINE:
The engine block must have been available in a one ton or smaller pick-up truck.
EXHAUST:
All vehicles must be equipped to direct exhaust upward or downward. Two 3/8 inch min. diameter bolts
must be placed in the exhaust pipe in a cross pattern within one inch of each other as close to the turbo
as practical.
FIRE EXTINGUISHER:
A fire extinguisher is mandatory. It must be easily accessible and visible.
AIR SHUTOFF:
The vehicle must be equipped with an air shutoff. A master control for your air shutoff must be located
at the back of the vehicle next to the hitch point; it must have a two inch diameter steel ring and be
clearly visible to the hook man. A fuel shutoff is also very highly recommended.
FUEL INJECTION PUMP:
The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock appearing, OEM engine model-specific pump only. Twin
CP3’s and Hpop’s are permitted. "AG" gov. permitted.
HITCH:
The hitch must be a “REESE” style hitch. Reinforcements are permitted. "Drawbar" style hitches are permitted.
The hitches height from the ground may not exceed 26” for 4x4 and 30” for 2x4. Must have a hook
point at least 44 inches from the center of the rear axle. The hooking point must have a minimum 3.00
inch by 3.75 inch inside diameter opening for the sled hook.
NITROUS OXIDE:
Nitrous oxide is prohibited. No other oxygen extenders are allowed.
PROPANE:
Propane is prohibited.
REAR SUSPENSION:
Traction bars and devices are permitted. Suspension must maintain a minimum shock travel of 1 inch.
TIRES:
Tires must be DOT street tires. Cut tires are prohibited. A maximum tire diameter of 35 inch.
TRANSMISSIONS:
Transmissions (manual and automatics) must have a transmission / bell housing blanket meeting SFI
4.1.
TURBOCHARGER:
There is no limit on Turbocharger size or configuration.
WATER INJECTION:
Water injection is permitted.

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bdp
09-08-2009, 10:11 AM
No limit on charger huh?

GRotman
09-08-2009, 10:30 AM
Just the OE driveline limits the charger. LOL

silver03
09-08-2009, 12:41 PM
No limit on charger huh?


Chager or charges????

gainer16
09-08-2009, 02:13 PM
what about 2.6 rules?

GRotman
09-08-2009, 02:30 PM
This is a memorial hook for Greg Vanhouten, who was our clubs announcer for many years. Greg passed away unexpectedly this past winter from a heart attack.
The List of sponsors for this hook is quite large, as the whole community new and respected Greg.
I will try and get the whole 2.6 rules up tonight, but they are pretty much the same as Nadm only no bushing.

gainer16
09-08-2009, 02:32 PM
what about hood stacks? that is my only concern. i would come and hook but if you dont allow hood stacks in the 2.6 class i cant run

smokinrod
09-08-2009, 02:42 PM
just got of the phone with 2 of the people putting the show on and they said they would let the hood stack go since it isn't a power adder. so ya better show up LOL.

GRotman
09-08-2009, 02:43 PM
Hood stack will be fine....I know the tech guy! LOL

gainer16
09-08-2009, 03:04 PM
ok sounds good....ill do my best

GRotman
09-09-2009, 11:04 AM
Chager or charges????

Chargers????

The club wanted a spot for the guys with street twins to be able to hook, which is why any turbo configuration is allowed. I don't know of any twin charger trucks planning to attend though.

GRotman
09-10-2009, 10:25 AM
We have secured enough sponsors that first place in the hot class will get $1000 !!!

JerrodGlover
09-10-2009, 10:55 AM
I can here the dmax guys filling the NOS bottles already.

Micheal Tomac
09-10-2009, 12:53 PM
...edit

what was edited when you quoted the rules?

GRotman
09-10-2009, 12:54 PM
Ag governor

Micheal Tomac
09-10-2009, 12:59 PM
good job tweaking the MTTP rules to cover your bases

GRotman
09-10-2009, 01:08 PM
Hate to have someone come to pull and not have a place for them.

Micheal Tomac
09-10-2009, 01:18 PM
what if a guy show up with propane or nitrous or cut tires or a rockwell axle or something else not allowed by the rules?

GRotman
09-10-2009, 01:35 PM
I figured you would be there to protest them. :hehe:

Highfinance97
09-10-2009, 03:43 PM
Chager or charges????

Chargers????


Sounds like an accent to me LOL

what if a guy show up with propane or nitrous or cut tires or a rockwell axle or something else not allowed by the rules?

I figured you would be there to protest them. :hehe:
:hehe:

smokinrod
09-10-2009, 05:55 PM
I figured you would be there to protest them. :hehe:

LOL and with all the practice mike gets he should be d@mn good at that by now.

new sticker for mike's truck ... If ya can't beat'em DQ'em :Cheer:

Red Stroke
09-10-2009, 06:48 PM
What time will the hot diesel class be running? I would like to come but there is alot of beer and who-ha's waiting at hot boat again this year....

LATITUDE
09-10-2009, 06:50 PM
LOL and with all the practice mike gets he should be d@mn good at that by now.

new sticker for mike's truck ... If ya can't beat'em DQ'em :Cheer:

You build a truck that does not meet the rules,, when ya get DQed you get pissed,, you show up at TWO other pulls and get DQed again because you have not changed the hitch. Why even have rules?, if you are not going to follow them.............

So how long have you been running the AG govenor???







/

GRotman
09-10-2009, 10:32 PM
This is not a MTTP hook. If you don't like the rules don't come.
This hook was ment to be a fun hook at the end of the year in memory of Greg. We have worked very hard to get a good payout, in order to put on a good show.

GRotman
09-10-2009, 10:42 PM
What time will the hot diesel class be running? I would like to come but there is alot of beer and who-ha's waiting at hot boat again this year....

I would guess somewhere between 3 and 5 p.m.

Micheal Tomac
09-10-2009, 11:44 PM
new sticker for mike's truck ... If ya can't beat'em DQ'em

Here's a new sticker for the green truck.
http://www.michigantrailersupply.com/Images/Reese%20Logo.JPG

GRotman
09-11-2009, 08:44 AM
I like tacos.

JerrodGlover
09-11-2009, 12:55 PM
Will there be a Taco Vendor there?

Highfinance97
09-11-2009, 02:51 PM
Will there be a Taco Vendor there?

Like a Brothel?

GRotman
09-11-2009, 03:11 PM
If I knew a taco vendor, I wouldnt be sledpulling.

smokinrod
09-11-2009, 04:12 PM
Here's a new sticker for the green truck.
http://www.michigantrailersupply.com/Images/Reese%20Logo.JPG

ah reese, just what is that ? a goosenck ? bumper mount? frame mount? front hitch? fith wheel? reese is a brand name not a certain model. we are/were with in the gray area of the rules and the rules are getting changed to meet our hitch next year so get used to it. or you could allways step down to a lower level of competetion .

GRotman
09-11-2009, 04:17 PM
Boats and tacos.......mmmmmmm!!!

smokinrod
09-11-2009, 04:18 PM
You build a truck that does not meet the rules,, when ya get DQed you get pissed,, you show up at TWO other pulls and get DQed again because you have not changed the hitch. Why even have rules?, if you are not going to follow them.............

So how long have you been running the AG govenor???







/



jim, i am not upset lol play on the edge and sooner or later your gonna loose. but why after 4 years of pulling with us does the hitch now all of a sudden become a problem for mike ?? ok the last four years but not ok now??? oh waite I know BECAUSE YOU LOST LOL and realized that you cant keep up.
but then why not protest that darn work stock truck that keeps beatin mike?

zstroken
09-11-2009, 04:30 PM
jim, i am not upset lol play on the edge and sooner or later your gonna loose. but why after 4 years of pulling with us does the hitch now all of a sudden become a problem for mike ?? ok the last four years but not ok now??? oh waite I know BECAUSE YOU LOST LOL and realized that you cant keep up.
but then why not protest that darn work stock truck that keeps beatin mike?


Well you should know you don't need to protest folks if they aren't beating you. It just takes money away from the organization if they drop out.

Seen all sorts of illegal stuff get by, nobody cares until the illegal stuff starts beating the legal stuff.

JerrodGlover
09-11-2009, 05:13 PM
Boats and tacos.......mmmmmmm!!!

It is "Hot Boat and Boob Weekend"
:nopics:

Micheal Tomac
09-11-2009, 11:40 PM
jim, i am not upset lol play on the edge and sooner or later your gonna loose. but why after 4 years of pulling with us does the hitch now all of a sudden become a problem for mike ?? ok the last four years but not ok now??? oh waite I know BECAUSE YOU LOST LOL and realized that you cant keep up.

Congragulations, it only took 4 years and a 1200 hp scheid motor with an illegal hitch and an illegal govenor to finally beat my 2.8 street truck.

You guys are going to have your hands full tomorrow. I hope you haven't spent the 1st place prize money yet.

Highfinance97
09-12-2009, 12:27 AM
Congragulations, it only took 4 years and a 1200 hp scheid motor with an illegal hitch and an illegal govenor to finally beat my 2.8 street truck.

You guys are going to have your hands full tomorrow. I hope you haven't spent the 1st place prize money yet.

No body said anything about Mcbride....

Micheal Tomac
09-12-2009, 01:02 AM
ah reese, just what is that ? a goosenck ? bumper mount? frame mount? front hitch? fith wheel? reese is a brand name not a certain model. we are/were with in the gray area of the rules and the rules are getting changed to meet our hitch next year so get used to it. or you could allways step down to a lower level of competetion .

I heard REECE is coming out with a drawbar style pulling hitch.

I will build my truck to the rules AFTER the 2010 rules come out, not before. Or I could build my truck outside the rules and hope no one will notice. Then, after getting away with it, get caught, then lobby to get the rules changed.

Let me guess.... AG govenors are going to be legal next year too since you're already running one?

Why stop there? Since it's called the Hot Diesel Unlimited class, lets allow open driveline, tube chassis, fiberglass bodies and cepek tires. Then there won't be any bi**hing when I show up with a mod truck next year.

Micheal Tomac
09-12-2009, 01:03 AM
No body said anything about Mcbride....

:hehe:

LATITUDE
09-12-2009, 06:26 AM
jim, i am not upset lol play on the edge and sooner or later your gonna loose. but why after 4 years of pulling with us does the hitch now all of a sudden become a problem for mike ?? ok the last four years but not ok now??? oh waite I know BECAUSE YOU LOST LOL and realized that you cant keep up.
but then why not protest that darn work stock truck that keeps beatin mike?

rod, rod,,,,,,,,,At Hudsonville the green truck would have got "SECOND PLACE" but it got DQed (for the thrid time). The HITCH has always been wrong as far as the RULES go and was made aware to YOU and the owner of the truck at the time, as well as others. So after a time of "NO RESOLVE" The hitch was brough up to the club President(at that time)and we all know what went on then,,,Did you forget?,,,,, To lose fare and square is not a problem thats what competition is all about, or did You forget about that as well?:rules:

carfichris
09-12-2009, 09:45 AM
Its GREAT weather up here today. Track prep is underway. The trucks are rolling in. Results will be posted after the event.

JerrodGlover
09-12-2009, 09:32 PM
What a great day to remember a man that was a true friend to so many of us.

smokinrod
09-13-2009, 12:54 PM
jim things break (like the crappy JL injector lines did at hudsonville) so yes you got first you beat a broken truck that coasted within a foot of mike... even a blind squirrel gets a nut ever now and then.

Micheal Tomac
09-13-2009, 02:01 PM
jim things break (like the crappy JL injector lines did at hudsonville) so yes you got first you beat a broken truck with an illegal hitch and illegal govenor on the pump that coasted within a foot of mike.

I've been fighting low rail pressure all season long, dropping 6000-7000 psi doesn't help.

Micheal Tomac
09-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Any results from the pull?

Red Stroke
09-13-2009, 09:34 PM
Vids?

LATITUDE
09-15-2009, 06:58 PM
Heard the green apple had worms......So, who are you throwing under the bus this time?

Otts
09-15-2009, 08:22 PM
Results will be posted after the event.

Is the pull still goin?

LATITUDE
09-21-2009, 03:09 PM
HELLO!!! it's been over TWO weeks now, where are the results??? ,,OR was the outcome NOT what you were planning?:redx::bang:doh:

GRotman
09-21-2009, 04:26 PM
Adam Helion won the open class with Tony taking 2nd and 3rd.
As if you didnt know the results already Jim. Quit being a dick!