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farmtruck09 06-27-2017 12:42 AM

Best injectors out there ?
 
Competition pulling motor is going in the 6.7, have ran bd and DDP in past with luck but just curious on who has the best products to offer. Am on flomax 950 lift with 12mm stroker from bd, will be on tater built he351 67/67 work stock set up. Am probably limited w 12 mm much past 850

LAmiller 06-27-2017 06:48 AM

We have had nothing but excellent results with Exergy Performance. We run a set of 500% overs in our Pro Street truck, and for your setup I'd go with a set of 250% overs. We have a few workstock trucks with 200-250% overs a single Exergy 12mm cp3 and a tater built HE351 67/67 that have dyno'd over 900hp.

Lavon

Green2015 07-03-2017 08:33 PM

I know S&S is running a hell of a deal 250-300% with brand new injector bodies and nozzles woth the red man upgraded internals with no core for like $4200 for 250% and 300% for like $4400. Hardway performance is selling them at that price. Can't beat that price anywhere with no cores.

farmtruck09 07-05-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Green2015 (Post 2625486)
I know S&S is running a hell of a deal 250-300% with brand new injector bodies and nozzles woth the red man upgraded internals with no core for like $4200 for 250% and 300% for like $4400. Hardway performance is selling them at that price. Can't beat that price anywhere with no cores.

Been leaning this way as Hardway does my tuning. I'm not sure on bd cp3 12mm capabilities but I'm sure that will be my limiting factor at some point

Justappumped24v 07-05-2017 10:59 AM

Lenny's new machine at DDP makes the rest look prehistoric. If I was you I'd stay with DDP

farmtruck09 07-05-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Justappumped24v (Post 2625660)
Lenny's new machine at DDP makes the rest look prehistoric. If I was you I'd stay with DDP

I have built 3 trucks through them with nothing but good results. They can build any custom combo you choose. How ever last time I called and asked them to assemble a parts list for me I never was helped or calls returned after calling two more times. After spending many thousands of dollars through them I was disappointed. Not bashing their stuff bc it's good. But if they don't want my hard earned money I'll find some one who is stand up and loyal to spend it on. At any rate they are out my back door and I'd love to stay local if the customer service hadn't went to hell

Pvmt-Pndr 07-05-2017 04:17 PM

Wow you're talking some serious power out of a 67/67! That's exactly what I'm running also by tater. I like it! I'm on stock sticks and fuel too. It spools fast! As far as pulling I think it's a little big to yank 20k pounds down the road at 70 in 6th gear. 5th gear it's perfect! My egts are a little warm for being stock fueled, at least I think but nothing close to terrible by any means. I have yet to check DP with it. Currently something made it's way past my air filter so I'm going to have him put a new wheel on it and rebalance it for me before I check anything.
Sorry for the ramble but reviews on the turbo are hard to find and others may be curious

farmtruck09 07-05-2017 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pvmt-Pndr (Post 2625753)
Wow you're talking some serious power out of a 67/67! That's exactly what I'm running also by tater. I like it! I'm on stock sticks and fuel too. It spools fast! As far as pulling I think it's a little big to yank 20k pounds down the road at 70 in 6th gear. 5th gear it's perfect! My egts are a little warm for being stock fueled, at least I think but nothing close to terrible by any means. I have yet to check DP with it. Currently something made it's way past my air filter so I'm going to have him put a new wheel on it and rebalance it for me before I check anything.
Sorry for the ramble but reviews on the turbo are hard to find and others may be curious

Tater almost has his 67/67 up to 1000hp. Pretty awesome stuff he's doing. Plus the reliability and quality is pretty top notch. Glad to hear yours is working well bc my 67/67 is on order.

Justappumped24v 07-06-2017 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by farmtruck09 (Post 2625825)
Tater almost has his 67/67 up to 1000hp. Pretty awesome stuff he's doing. Plus the reliability and quality is pretty top notch. Glad to hear yours is working well bc my 67/67 is on order.

Hardways customer service is why I left them for parts and tuning. Hopefully they figure out how to return emails and calls. S&S does make good stuff though!

jasonc 07-06-2017 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Justappumped24v (Post 2625842)
Hardways customer service is why I left them for parts and tuning. Hopefully they figure out how to return emails and calls. S&S does make good stuff though!

I'll second this!!

Green2015 07-06-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by farmtruck09 (Post 2625659)
Been leaning this way as Hardway does my tuning. I'm not sure on bd cp3 12mm capabilities but I'm sure that will be my limiting factor at some point

They have a killer deal on s&s at hardway. 250% brand new not remans with redman body mods and no cores shipped was like $4300

Green2015 07-06-2017 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by farmtruck09 (Post 2625747)
I have built 3 trucks through them with nothing but good results. They can build any custom combo you choose. How ever last time I called and asked them to assemble a parts list for me I never was helped or calls returned after calling two more times. After spending many thousands of dollars through them I was disappointed. Not bashing their stuff bc it's good. But if they don't want my hard earned money I'll find some one who is stand up and loyal to spend it on. At any rate they are out my back door and I'd love to stay local if the customer service hadn't went to hell

DDP doesn't offer any kinda warranty on their super mentals is what sucks. So if something fails well your screwed

farmtruck09 01-05-2018 11:14 PM

Who here runs f1 injectors? Hell of a warranty on them.

1stgensleeper 01-06-2018 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LAmiller (Post 2624495)
We have had nothing but excellent results with Exergy Performance. We run a set of 500% overs in our Pro Street truck, and for your setup I'd go with a set of 250% overs. We have a few workstock trucks with 200-250% overs a single Exergy 12mm cp3 and a tater built HE351 67/67 that have dyno'd over 900hp.

Lavon

I've always been curious why these smaller turbos are ran with such large injectors? I imagine you found something in the tuning to get more power that way but are the gains that large over running something in the 100-150% range?

dangerous06 01-06-2018 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by farmtruck09 (Post 2650834)
Who here runs f1 injectors? Hell of a warranty on them.

IT'S all I run Don hand builds each injector to better than new tolerances and also has that new coating available! I have like ten trucks with his injectors not a single issue! trucks run so smooth with them!

RascalMafia 01-06-2018 08:42 AM

Banean just posted a set of Exergy 275's for sale.

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farmtruck09 01-06-2018 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dangerous06 (Post 2650851)
IT'S all I run Don hand builds each injector to better than new tolerances and also has that new coating available! I have like ten trucks with his injectors not a single issue! trucks run so smooth with them!

7 Years w new coating! That’s nuts. I’ll have to call him

ramthiscummins 01-06-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stgensleeper (Post 2650838)
I've always been curious why these smaller turbos are ran with such large injectors? I imagine you found something in the tuning to get more power that way but are the gains that large over running something in the 100-150% range?

I am wondering how the reliability is with running them with such large injectors?

I am also wondering if the dyno numbers have been backed up with track times?

farmtruck09 01-06-2018 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ramthiscummins (Post 2650896)
I am wondering how the reliability is with running them with such large injectors?

I am also wondering if the dyno numbers have been backed up with track times?

New thing is the lower pulse width/band, lotta guys running big injectors. It saves timing progression and such and longevity in motor. I’m sure some one could chime in on this. Exergy supports it I know and so does f1

J-Pipes 01-06-2018 08:14 PM

Pretty sure those 900+hp trucks mentioned are tuned/dynoed at Firepunk, so I'd think they'd be honest about it. Pretty crazy though, thinking that had been mentioned a lot lately though, to get larger than necessary injectors so the tune could be more conservative for longer life?

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