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EricStaab 11-21-2014 05:21 PM

Cummins 12v roller rockers
 
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12v rocker bodies just out of the machine. Sub-plates, stands, and shafts are finished. Billet valve covers are next, and then we are ready to rock.

pick017 11-21-2014 05:47 PM

Looks awesome I'm going to be in need of a set this season.

khales 11-21-2014 08:33 PM

Me too can't wait to see the finished product

madmikeismad 11-22-2014 12:12 AM

What ratio will they be?

Bodacious 11-22-2014 07:35 AM

Very nice.

jedeka 11-22-2014 08:27 AM

Ratios are 1.7, 1.75 and 1.8

DISTURBED 11-22-2014 08:38 AM

What's the price going to be on these?

kleann 11-22-2014 09:06 AM

$3500 is the introductory price for the whole kit.

EricStaab 11-22-2014 01:19 PM

We can do custom ratios too. Two week lead time on custom ratios right now.

These are a complete kit, which includes the sub-plate, new rocker stand, new coated rocker shaft ( coating is a combination a hardness coating to make the surface harder more wear resistant, and lubricant coating), and billet (made from a solid chunk of aluminum, not fabricated) 1 piece valve cover. The rocker stand is bolted down with 7 bolts, the shaft bolts to the stand with a bolt between each rocker. The shaft and stand have some very tight tolerances were they lock together like a Lego. It is very rigid compared to stock. The valve cover also has spray oiling for the roller tip and valve springs.

We improved the rocker geometry to reduce the movement of the rocker arm across the tip of the valve. We built the geometry around the stock valve, and slightly taller to accommodate the Hamilton head and large valves. If by chance you would have a taller valve, we can adjust the sub-plate and installed rocker centerline for you.

So why did we not just make a rocker to fit the stock stands. My experience has been this. When the shaft is unsupported on each side of the rockers the shaft will flex. More than you think. I have seen shafts flex, just by rolling over the motor, and checking lash, by as much as .025. That's a lot, like a mile. So what does that do. Well now the cam is not doing what it is supposed to do. You just lost part of your lift. You changed the duration, and timing of the cam. That can mean a reduction in hp and torque. It also introduces frequencies and vibration into your valve train that you do not want. These frequencies have impacts on the durability of the camshaft, pushrod, rocker arm, lifter, and valve springs. The impact is usually not beneficial. Usually there will be a reduction of durability in the components. In short that is the reason we chose to make a complete kit.

shortbusdriver 11-22-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricStaab (Post 2385690)
The rocker stand is bolted down with 7 bolts, the shaft bolts to the stand with a bolt between each rocker. The shaft and stand have some very tight tolerances were they lock together like a Lego. It is very rigid compared to stock.

Eric showed me this when I stopped in awhile back. The parts almost do snap together like Legos. Very nice solid design for sure. Cant wait to get his junk on my truck.

Ghostman 11-22-2014 04:46 PM

Very cool! Would love to see it all in action.


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YOUNG GUNS15 11-22-2014 05:27 PM

Awesome! I'm guessing with the one piece valve cover stock lines will not fit?

RacinDuallie 11-23-2014 03:28 PM

Mr.Staab-I'm down to see a couple of pics of the whole shebang.....

JL Builders 11-23-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinDuallie (Post 2386069)
Mr.Staab-I'm down to see a couple of pics of the whole shebang.....

X2!!! I wanna see this setup!

EricStaab 11-24-2014 07:48 AM

I will put some more pictures up once we finish the valve cover. It is very much like the SMT kit that is out there. We made improvements in the areas we thought needed it, and committed to stocking 3 different ratios.

Badbrad3701 11-24-2014 07:14 PM

What kind power increase are you seeing from these

EricStaab 11-25-2014 08:47 AM

Zero. Essentially you could see some gains just from the fact they are roller with less friction, and inertia is less because the rocker arms are lighter, but I'm not going to guarantee any hp gains. It really comes down to your combination. The combination of the head, cam, and turbo, plus the right rocker ratio to achieve the lift needed. So you may see absolutely zero hp gain, and you might see a lot of hp gain.

EricStaab 11-26-2014 05:58 PM

Billet Valve Cover for rocker kit
 
Sneek Peek of billet valve cover for rocker arms kits.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

EricStaab 11-26-2014 06:01 PM

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Picture attached. More pics on our facebook page.

f-250dieselman 11-26-2014 09:51 PM

Looks good Eric


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