Begle's Water Injection - Competition Diesel.Com

Begle1 · 05-28-2008, 05:00 PM

Computer programmable 7-stage boost/ EGT/ RPM-referenced water/ methanol fumigation.

Work in progress.

http://www.1stgen.org/viewtopic.php?p=20493

displacedtexan · 05-28-2008, 05:16 PM

Looking good so far.

I like the tank.

RacinDuallie · 05-28-2008, 05:24 PM

BGarofalo · 05-28-2008, 08:05 PM

Nice. How to the nozzles thread in? Are they being thread into the brass fittings for the water line?

Its amazing what they get, price wise, per foot for that clear plastic line huh...

Its like $4/ft

Begle1 · 05-28-2008, 08:37 PM

I kind of... Eh... Acquisitioned that line from somewhere...

I got 4 foot sections of Swagelok stainless braided teflon that's going to go on there... I really don't want to melt through a line and quench the side of my very hot engine with cool water.

Here's the nozzles.

From left to right we have a 6.6GPH@100PSI, a 12.60GPH@100PSI and a 26.40GPH@100PSI.

I picked up three NPT male-male couplers, and tapped one side on each one. Then I filed off the points on the hex heads on the nozzles.

Then I drilled and tapped them into the intake.

http://www.1stgen.org/viewtopic.php?t=2576

Muddin_dude06 · 05-29-2008, 12:30 AM

I'm very interested in this, that would be a great way to cool off the EGT's!

Forrest Nearing · 05-29-2008, 01:03 AM

how are the nozzles constructed? IE how are the diffusers attatched to the fittings? I'd be affraid of them engine up in the cylinder head

Begle1 · 05-29-2008, 09:24 AM

From what I can tell, the stainless steel diffuser is inserted into the hole, and then one of the sides of the brass hex is pressed in to hold in the diffuser. You can see the indent in the side of the rightmost nozzle in post #5, right where the diffuser attaches to the nozzle.

I'm afraid of the diffusers flying off too, but they're rated for 1000 PSI, so I'm thinking that they're pretty solid. Just don't know if they're rated for 100,000 miles... I'm gonna pull them out soon to see how they're doing. Whether or not the diffusers got any looseness in them.

roachie · 05-29-2008, 08:09 PM

Im a little concerned about atomization with that kind of flow and nozzle spacing being so tight.

Forrest Nearing · 05-29-2008, 08:12 PM

ahh, I see the indent now...

yeah, it'll probably be fine, but like you said, pull them and check... I'm guessing they'll hold up fine and your inspection interval will reach infinity before long

Muddin_dude06 · 06-24-2008, 11:37 PM

Any new news on this? I really would like a dual or triple stage water system...

Begle1 · 06-25-2008, 12:18 AM

It keeps me from pegging my pyro. Now I only spend around 10 seconds at 1450 degrees on the quarter mile, but no pegging...

I was programming it for 7 stages yesterday instead of 3, and my box died. Cooling Mist says I need to reflash it... That's the most recent thing that's happened.

Cooling Mist has EXCELLENT customer support, by the way. Last few emails I've sent them have been responded to in less than an hour.

Next step is 1000 PSI... I can't decide whether to use an off-the-shelf 120 volt model from eBay along with a big inverter, or to put a starter motor on a CraigsList washer pump. Whatever route I go, I'm going to need to use a couple nitrous solenoids... That'd give me three stages for the 1000 PSI water, then I use the finer control of the 150 PSI system for methanol mix.

But before I play with more water, I need something like an intake or exhaust or injectors or something.

05-28-2008, 05:00 PM	#1
Begle1 Name: Begle1 Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Capo Beach, California Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,094	Begle's Water Injection Computer programmable 7-stage boost/ EGT/ RPM-referenced water/ methanol fumigation. Work in progress. http://www.1stgen.org/viewtopic.php?p=20493 __________________ 1990 D-250 Regular Cab: Automatic transmission, turkey air horn, wires.

05-28-2008, 05:24 PM	#3
RacinDuallie Name: RacinDuallie Title: 7 Months and 39 Days Status: Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Backwoods of Jersey Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,825	Nice __________________ *NHRA Member* *INDUSTRIAL INJECTION SERVICES-GRAND ROCK EXHAUST-SOUTHERN POLYURETHANES INC-AUTOWURKS DIESEL-SNOW PERFORMANCE-NX NITROUS EXPRESS-AUTOMOTIVE RACING PRODUCTS-FLUIDAMPR-MUMAU DIESEL*

05-29-2008, 12:30 AM	#6
Muddin_dude06 Name: Muddin_dude06 Title: ... Status: Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Magnolia Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,058	I'm very interested in this, that would be a great way to cool off the EGT's! __________________ '96 White 2500 4x4 5sp. on 35" BFG's Rebuilding everything with... Smokem's 5x.014's Ported and fireringed head PDR cam WITH retainer He341/S400 Twins 3.4GSK Big thanks to ValAir Clutch, Mamau Diesel, and PureDieselPower

05-29-2008, 01:03 AM	#7
Forrest Nearing Name: Forrest Nearing Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,242	how are the nozzles constructed? IE how are the diffusers attatched to the fittings? I'd be affraid of them engine up in the cylinder head __________________ '06 Flame Red Mega Cab SLT 4x4 auto HotRodDiesels built tranny Smarty, Fleece stand-alone VNT, spark plug conversion, etc.

05-29-2008, 08:09 PM	#9
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,575	Im a little concerned about atomization with that kind of flow and nozzle spacing being so tight. __________________ 01 real hot dynamic timing pump, banks sixgun/hypertech stack 04 F250.......NV5600 CR's suck.

05-28-2008, 08:05 PM	#4
BGarofalo Name: BGarofalo Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern NJ Member`s Gallery Posts: 241	Nice. How to the nozzles thread in? Are they being thread into the brass fittings for the water line? Its amazing what they get, price wise, per foot for that clear plastic line huh... Its like $4/ft

05-28-2008, 08:37 PM	#5
Begle1 Name: Begle1 Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Capo Beach, California Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,094	I kind of... Eh... Acquisitioned that line from somewhere... I got 4 foot sections of Swagelok stainless braided teflon that's going to go on there... I really don't want to melt through a line and quench the side of my very hot engine with cool water. Here's the nozzles. From left to right we have a 6.6GPH@100PSI, a 12.60GPH@100PSI and a 26.40GPH@100PSI. I picked up three NPT male-male couplers, and tapped one side on each one. Then I filed off the points on the hex heads on the nozzles. Then I drilled and tapped them into the intake. http://www.1stgen.org/viewtopic.php?t=2576

05-29-2008, 09:24 AM	#8
Begle1 Name: Begle1 Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Capo Beach, California Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,094	From what I can tell, the stainless steel diffuser is inserted into the hole, and then one of the sides of the brass hex is pressed in to hold in the diffuser. You can see the indent in the side of the rightmost nozzle in post #5, right where the diffuser attaches to the nozzle. I'm afraid of the diffusers flying off too, but they're rated for 1000 PSI, so I'm thinking that they're pretty solid. Just don't know if they're rated for 100,000 miles... I'm gonna pull them out soon to see how they're doing. Whether or not the diffusers got any looseness in them.

05-29-2008, 08:12 PM	#10
Forrest Nearing Name: Forrest Nearing Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,242	ahh, I see the indent now... yeah, it'll probably be fine, but like you said, pull them and check... I'm guessing they'll hold up fine and your inspection interval will reach infinity before long

06-24-2008, 11:37 PM	#11
Muddin_dude06 Name: Muddin_dude06 Title: ... Status: Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Magnolia Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,058	Any new news on this? I really would like a dual or triple stage water system...

06-25-2008, 12:18 AM	#12
Begle1 Name: Begle1 Title: Diesel Pro Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Capo Beach, California Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,094	It keeps me from pegging my pyro. Now I only spend around 10 seconds at 1450 degrees on the quarter mile, but no pegging... I was programming it for 7 stages yesterday instead of 3, and my box died. Cooling Mist says I need to reflash it... That's the most recent thing that's happened. Cooling Mist has EXCELLENT customer support, by the way. Last few emails I've sent them have been responded to in less than an hour. Next step is 1000 PSI... I can't decide whether to use an off-the-shelf 120 volt model from eBay along with a big inverter, or to put a starter motor on a CraigsList washer pump. Whatever route I go, I'm going to need to use a couple nitrous solenoids... That'd give me three stages for the 1000 PSI water, then I use the finer control of the 150 PSI system for methanol mix. But before I play with more water, I need something like an intake or exhaust or injectors or something.

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