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04-28-2017, 11:06 AM
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Name: allan5oh
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What's your magazine articles tell you?
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Lol amusing. Anybody else?
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04-28-2017, 09:44 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
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Originally Posted by allan5oh
What kind of bmep/cylinder pressures are some of these engines making? At what point do you have to go beyond just setting the protrusion correctly and start going with custom stuff?
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Without know exact torque numbers it would just be guessing, there are factory cat C15/18s that get into the 400psi range.
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04-29-2017, 01:22 PM
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#12663
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Name: allan5oh
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Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
Without know exact torque numbers it would just be guessing, there are factory cat C15/18s that get into the 400psi range.
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Yeah I know that's why I was asking. 400 psi is nuts! That's just under 2500 ft lbs for a 15.2l. I'd estimate my Detroit around 360 psi but that's not dyno proven.
I think we are going to see smaller displacement diesels with higher bmep in the future with the push for better bsfc and fuel mileage.
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04-29-2017, 07:17 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
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Originally Posted by allan5oh
Yeah I know that's why I was asking. 400 psi is nuts! That's just under 2500 ft lbs for a 15.2l. I'd estimate my Detroit around 360 psi but that's not dyno proven.
I think we are going to see smaller displacement diesels with higher bmep in the future with the push for better bsfc and fuel mileage.
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Outside of truck engines there are quite a few that climb that high. The highest HP marine C18 peaks at 434.
The 855hp C15 acert gen set peaks at 398 at full load rpm.
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04-29-2017, 07:24 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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Here is a 12.9L marine engine that is being built by someone else for cat, prop demand is less as this is max limit for the engine.
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04-29-2017, 07:33 PM
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Name: RascalMafia
Title: heyyyyyyy girrrrrrrl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
Here is a 12.9L marine engine that is being built by someone else for cat, prop demand is less as this is max limit for the engine.
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Supercharged and compound turbos. It's pretty impressive. 54' Jarrett Bay @ 36 knots.
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04-29-2017, 08:32 PM
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Name: biggy238
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
Here is a 12.9L marine engine that is being built by someone else for cat, prop demand is less as this is max limit for the engine.
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Tell me it's not an MAN....
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04-29-2017, 10:36 PM
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Name: allan5oh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
Here is a 12.9L marine engine that is being built by someone else for cat, prop demand is less as this is max limit for the engine.
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Good Lord those are nice numbers! What's impressive is the flat torque nd the wise range of bsfc. Only right at the top does it start going up.
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05-03-2017, 11:37 AM
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Name: ACFarmer
Title: On to the next project
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Heres the truck I'm thinking about selling. 93 ext hood. 10 speed. B model cat. All new brakes and drums. Needs head and 2 pistons. Don't really want to sell it but I could use the money on a down payment on another truck for my driver. Whats its worth?
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05-03-2017, 02:48 PM
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Remind me why it needed the engine parts?
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-03-2017, 03:53 PM
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Name: RockinRam96
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Originally Posted by BRE
Remind me why it needed the engine parts?
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Does it matter? Still looking at a $15,000 inframe.
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05-03-2017, 04:28 PM
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Name: BRE
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Originally Posted by RockinRam96
Does it matter? Still looking at a $15,000 inframe.
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I was asking out of curiosity, not for the truck value. Ease up the hostility a notch or two shall we?
It's not a for sale ad, it's the steering wheel holder thread.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-03-2017, 04:30 PM
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Name: BRE
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Looking to sell as is correct? With needing an inframe and a head, I'm not gonna be much help on the value side of things.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-03-2017, 04:43 PM
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Name: Highwayman
Title: bored.
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Originally Posted by RascalMafia
Supercharged and compound turbos. It's pretty impressive. 54' Jarrett Bay @ 36 knots.
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You should share pictures of some of the sport fishers you work on sometime.
Those JB's are bad. Love the flair.
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Lolzzzzzz fakin haters
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05-03-2017, 04:57 PM
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Name: allan5oh
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I'm definitely going to have to decline the offer of waterskiing behind that. It would make waterboarding(the torture kind) look pretty good.
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05-03-2017, 07:27 PM
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Name: ACFarmer
Title: On to the next project
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Originally Posted by BRE
Looking to sell as is correct? With needing an inframe and a head, I'm not gonna be much help on the value side of things.
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Probably yes. It could be put back on the road with 2 pistons and a head. 2 injectors went bad is the cause of the trouble. It was my first truck, was good to me. But it might be time to move on.
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05-03-2017, 10:31 PM
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Name: Leiffi
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by biggy238
Tell me it's not an MAN....
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No, it's Iveco, or FPT, Fiat.
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05-04-2017, 06:30 AM
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Name: RockinRam96
Title: Too Much Time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRE
I was asking out of curiosity, not for the truck value. Ease up the hostility a notch or two shall we?
It's not a for sale ad, it's the steering wheel holder thread.
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Wasn't meant to be hostile. I'm just a keyboard jockey. I only play with anything with more than 4 wheels.
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Originally Posted by ACFarmer
Probably yes. It could be put back on the road with 2 pistons and a head. 2 injectors went bad is the cause of the trouble. It was my first truck, was good to me. But it might be time to move on.
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Honestly, if you're ok with putting two pistons, two nozzles and a new head on it, keep it. If I were looking to buy, in the condition it is in, I'd want to do a complete in frame.
Obviously, I have no idea what you're business is like, but you can get a piston kit and gasket kit through Interstate McBee cheap and a new head from Cat pretty for reasonable price. If you're willing to do the work yourself It could be done for much less than buying a newer truck. IMHO, you can't beat a mechanical Cat for reliability, fuel consumption, power, and ease of maintenance.
On-the-other-hand, the want for a newer truck comes into play, too.
my
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05-04-2017, 07:17 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Personally I wouldn't use interstate McBee in a lawnmower. But if your going to tear it that far down there is no way I wouldn't replace the other 4 packs. If your not wanting to spend much money just swap engines. You can find running B's for the price of a VCR
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-04-2017, 07:41 AM
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#12680
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Name: ACFarmer
Title: On to the next project
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockinRam96
Wasn't meant to be hostile. I'm just a keyboard jockey. I only play with anything with more than 4 wheels.
Honestly, if you're ok with putting two pistons, two nozzles and a new head on it, keep it. If I were looking to buy, in the condition it is in, I'd want to do a complete in frame.
Obviously, I have no idea what you're business is like, but you can get a piston kit and gasket kit through Interstate McBee cheap and a new head from Cat pretty for reasonable price. If you're willing to do the work yourself It could be done for much less than buying a newer truck. IMHO, you can't beat a mechanical Cat for reliability, fuel consumption, power, and ease of maintenance.
On-the-other-hand, the want for a newer truck comes into play, too.
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This is just a farm truck. Looking at a newer truck for my otr driver. If it was a few years newer I'd drop 20 grand on it, throw a sleeper on it and let him drive it.
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