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Old 07-02-2011, 06:39 PM   #1
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Big Problem! Please any advice

Ok so here is the scoop been down since Sat so tomorrow is 7 days!!! Well they finally get the hg job down and fire it up and idle to operating temp then go for the drive and make it 20mi down the road. Mechanic said it idled and ran perfect. Then he turns around to head back to shop and gets like 5mi back down road and BANG....running like ****.....then dies on road. So he calls the tow truck to come get him and tow back. Then he finally gets it to start i guess it did not want to start for him but he got it finally and it starts KNOCKING...Grey/White smoke and wat not but does not die apparently it has something to do with #5 cause when he shuts it down it goes away so they swap #4 and #5 injectors to see if it might be an injector causing the problem nope same thing it only stops knocking and smoking when they cut #5 off...but they cant figure it out and of course the are open tomorrow but HE the tech wont be there BS in my opinion but hey thats just me. So now it wont be looked at till Tues and they emailed Star Systems again to see wat they say. Any help would be great i have exhausted myself and a few members here also. Also just so you know truck did not have any other issues besides the hg before it was taken in. I tried the search button but couldnt find anything close to my problem so sorry if i overlooked something Thanks again


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Old 07-02-2011, 10:51 PM   #2
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Sounds Like an injector sticking could be the culprit, however if it didn't have the problem before the HG blew I'm going to go out on a limb and say the shop done something screwy when putting the valvetrain back together.
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:54 PM   #3
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Is there any fuel in places it shouldn't be? For example; crank case breather vent, intercooler, oil?
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:12 AM   #4
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Is there any fuel in places it shouldn't be? For example; crank case breather vent, intercooler, oil?
Funny thing is they say they didnt have the head apart as far as valves just rockers. They say they checked it at their shop. As far as fuel being somewhere it shouldnt be i dont know i just know i called cause it was day 3 of a HG job and wanted my truck cause its my bread and butter and i asked is it ready and he said bad news then i flipped **** on him like WTF man. Will know more on Tues morning
 
Old 07-03-2011, 01:24 AM   #5
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Sounds like a first class diesel repair shop too me pay the repair bill owed so far do some research on good shops in the area and have it towed to new shop imo.
 
Old 07-03-2011, 09:16 AM   #6
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Check everything out on cylinder 5. Pushrods and all. Its not hard for one of those to miss the ball occasionally. If putting a good injector in the same spot doesnt help it, and cutting off #5 injector is the only thing that fixes it, it has to be valvetrain related.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:45 AM   #7
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Defiantly a valvetrain problem.. Bring it to a shop that knows what there doing.
 
Old 07-03-2011, 09:52 AM   #8
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or when you blew the headgasket it filled up that cyl with coolant and when the crank tried to push that # 5 piston up it was full of coolant and the pressure cracked your rod... so now when there is a load on that cyl it runs like crap because the piston is just sittin there at the top of the cyl and the rod is banging around down there in the cly....

Just a wild guess. that could very well happen. It happed to me in a 7.3 powerstroke before....
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:40 AM   #9
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so they resurfaced the head with valves still installed? or didn't resurface the head at all?
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:35 AM   #10
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so they resurfaced the head with valves still installed? or didn't resurface the head at all?
Nope they just checked it accordingly to their service manual they have a piece of metal they lay across the head and use feeler gauges in like 15-20 diff places. As far as it being a valve train issue could it still be in the cylinder since they are cutting the fuel it stops so it would less of a load and once they put fuel back on it would be more of a load....or am i just thinking into to much.
 
Old 07-03-2011, 11:37 AM   #11
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or when you blew the headgasket it filled up that cyl with coolant and when the crank tried to push that # 5 piston up it was full of coolant and the pressure cracked your rod... so now when there is a load on that cyl it runs like crap because the piston is just sittin there at the top of the cyl and the rod is banging around down there in the cly....

Just a wild guess. that could very well happen. It happed to me in a 7.3 powerstroke before....
I cant see this cause everything checked out ok as far as being a hg and it ran perfect was their exact words and i have been driving it like this for quite some time. but anything is possible i guess at this point.
 
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Defiantly a valvetrain problem.. Bring it to a shop that knows what there doing.
Agreed. If it ran ok afterward but then just started a few minutes later it shouldnt be a cracked rod. But as you said anything is possible.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:33 PM   #13
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Sound like the wiring harness in the rocker box. If I had to guess.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:34 PM   #14
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I just hope its something simple!
 
Old 07-05-2011, 07:17 PM   #15
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Well its done for they say its #5 Rod bearing out....Oh and BTW they are not standing behind it for nothing saying they did not cause it. Pretty much really pissed off and dont know weather or not to even try and fight it. Oh and they still wasnt me to pay $2500 for the incompetent work they performed!!!!! Guess im going to try and call Chrysler tomorrow morning see wat they say...any other options????
 
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$2500 to replace a freakin head gasket? Was this a dodge dealership and you were trying get hg warrantied or what? Id be sure and ask the service department for a tube of ky when you go to trailer it to a different shop. My suggestion would be check the injector wiring harness from connections on side of the valve cover and under vc to injector. If issue is still there id go ahead and try capping the rail to that specfic cylinder to see if knocking and smoking go away. It makes non sense that it would b white smoking due to bad rod bearing knocking yes but not the smoking. The knock could very well be a fuel knock imo.
 
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$2500 to replace a freakin head gasket? Was this a dodge dealership and you were trying get hg warrantied or what? Id be sure and ask the service department for a tube of ky when you go to trailer it to a different shop. My suggestion would be check the injector wiring harness from connections on side of the valve cover and under vc to injector. If issue is still there id go ahead and try capping the rail to that specfic cylinder to see if knocking and smoking go away. It makes non sense that it would b white smoking due to bad rod bearing knocking yes but not the smoking. The knock could very well be a fuel knock imo.
I agree.. What kind of shop is this?
 
Old 07-06-2011, 05:30 AM   #18
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That sounds high even for a dealer. Thats like 15+ hours labor.
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Old 07-06-2011, 07:59 AM   #19
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well if its the bearing out of it it wouldnt cause the smoke issue like you say unless the bearing going out siezed and broke the rod loose from the crank.( wich is a possibility as i stated earlier.. but just a bad bearing causing it to smoke no way in hell.)
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It is a Dodge Dealer im not paying the bill no way in hell
 
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