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06-27-2014, 07:36 AM
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Name: Cozze44
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Gathering up some parts, need some help!
I have guy that has a complete core out of a 95 auto truck that has a knock. It comes with the pump, and i'm wondering if that would be a good pump to ppump my 24v with. I have just started getting into P-pumps and read a lot on here about them. I just wanna make sure I dont start myself off in the hole.
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06-27-2014, 10:14 PM
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Name: rjustman
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There's a lot of people that make good power with 160/175 pumps..my pump started as a 175 and I had Seth build it using one of Hamiltons v2 cams..its a totally different truck
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06-28-2014, 12:09 PM
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Name: Cozze44
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Originally Posted by rjustman
There's a lot of people that make good power with 160/175 pumps..my pump started as a 175 and I had Seth build it using one of Hamiltons v2 cams..its a totally different truck
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I did a lot of reading about the 160 pump that this would have on it and it looks like there's a lot of guys making pretty big power out of them with some work done to them. I figured 750 for a complete core engine with a pump is a good way to get ahead on my swap. Thank you for the reassurance!
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06-28-2014, 12:22 PM
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Name: rjustman
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I'd give Seth a call and have him work it over and bench it..you won't be disappointed..
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06-28-2014, 12:31 PM
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Name: 97$moker
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^^^x2 seth is a bada**! Top notch work
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06-28-2014, 04:49 PM
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Name: mathews8pt
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I made 675hp with a 175hp pump with 4k springs, rack plug, turned barrels and 191s. It drove nice and smooth on the street as well.
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06-28-2014, 05:28 PM
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Name: Cozze44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mathews8pt
I made 675hp with a 175hp pump with 4k springs, rack plug, turned barrels and 191s. It drove nice and smooth on the street as well.
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I read your conversion thread the other day, awesome write up, probably what is making me bite the bullet and just do it! Id like to be at 700-800 with compounds that would clean up ok on the street.
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06-28-2014, 06:03 PM
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Name: mathews8pt
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My goal this year is to break 800hp on fuel and have it be real clean on the street. Setup is 180 pump, 024s, 6x13s, and a 64/80 twin setup. Got a funky Trans problem right now that I need to find time to iron out then we'll see how it runs with the new twin setup.
It can definitely be done with careful choosing of parts.
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2000 QCSB, 180 pump, 6x.013's, maxspool 2.5, trans built by me, AD150, 64/80 compounds 11.51@119mph w/s468 single
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06-28-2014, 07:29 PM
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Name: Cozze44
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Thats very similiar to the setup i was thinking... I have 7x11 with a 63, was thinking a 78 or 80 to match should do it. Maybe if funds a allow, billet wheels.
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07-01-2014, 10:11 AM
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Name: stubz616
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My friend made 770hp on my old 160 pump off my 95. It had CDS 5Ks, racked barrels, 024DVs, and 32* timing. That was still with the factory cam in the pump too. It was the weirdo CPL 1968 pump though. California emissions and used the different timing chart.
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08-09-2014, 10:52 AM
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Name: CL2000
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I loved my 160 pump. I did 675 with one. It drives better than the 215 did on my truck.
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08-09-2014, 11:33 AM
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Name: Cozze44
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I ended up finding out by the part # that it's a 180 pump. Im sending it out to Seth this week. Wasn't expecting to start on this so soon but I have most of the parts, and what I don't have is on the way. I got ppump fever I guess
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08-09-2014, 12:44 PM
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Name: Leuthen
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Should be a great build
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08-09-2014, 02:20 PM
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08-09-2014, 02:21 PM
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Name: Cozze44
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I got the pump of the core engine, after some further research it seems as though it maybe a 175hp pump, can any one confirm for me?
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08-09-2014, 04:05 PM
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Name: rjustman
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yup its a 175 pump..
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08-09-2014, 04:35 PM
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Name: Cozze44
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Quote:
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yup its a 175 pump..
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Thanks man, I figure it should still be good for my goal of 800 maxed i hope.
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08-09-2014, 07:27 PM
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Name: rjustman
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that I couldn't tell you. im sure with the right turbo(s), and fuel anything is possible..im the last guy to give advice on that. my 500+ build was lucky to put down 350, I had a lot ALOT of stuff that wasn't as advertised and has since been fixed but its all just a game of tuning and tinkering..from what I've gathered it boils down to how much hands on time your willing to put into it especially with the p pump. good luck on your build and keep us informed on what you got going I know I'm interested in what you can come up with
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08-11-2014, 04:20 PM
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Got in touch with Seth today and decided to use this as a core and get a worked 180 pump. Price difference wasn't much so I figured lets do it right for my power goals the first time around. Happy I went with him, seems like a hell of a nice guy!
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08-16-2014, 08:59 AM
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Air Dog left me stranded for the last time last night! Really fed up with the electric lift pump setups. Can never go more then a year without having an issue. I've decided to go with a Waterman pump mounted on a billet front cover. Have done a lot of reading on them and they seem to be holding up well on the street from what I see, and I just so happen to have one laying around from my old mans sprint car. I see some people have issues getting the proper pressure throughout the rpm band. I have a regulator that's good to 150 psi as well, I dont see a reason why I just couldn't run the reg between the Waterman and the P7100 with a return back to the tank. Any one run something similar?
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