steed speed exhaust manifold or stainless - Page 2 - Competition Diesel.Com

97crewcab · 08-03-2011, 03:13 PM

Quoted from a post by Garrett at Puredieselpower.com about the Steed Speed manifold HERE

"Engine dyno testing shows a 30HP gain over other "3 piece" manifolds!
This manifold performs as well as the other "3 piece" manifolds with the high-flow center section available from certain vendors, but it provides it with a lower backpressure!
We run this manifold on our 3.0 Puller, Black Ice, with GREAT results!"

Granted he did say over other 3 piece manifolds not the stainless manifold, but he does sell both brands on his website and he chose the steed for his own truck.

I am just trying to put things out there to help with the original question. I have not purchased or used any of the stainless manifolds for myself. I am sure they are good products also.

zstroken · 08-03-2011, 03:17 PM

I would be concerned on the longevity of the Steed Speed and the welds cracking.

NickTF · 08-03-2011, 03:35 PM

^ life time gaurantee with under 1% failure rate as stated on their website. Take it for what its worth.

97crewcab · 08-03-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zstroken

I would be concerned on the longevity of the Steed Speed and the welds cracking.

Time will tell with the manifolds. They have really only been out for about 2 years. Although they make manifolds for quite a few other applications that I am sure see high egts also.
It isn't like we haven't had issues with cracked manifolds up until now. Plus if a guy could get the metal clean these manifolds would weld easier than cast in the event of an issue.

Good point on the warranty. I didn't even realize they had the warranty as long as you own it.

WUnderwood · 08-03-2011, 07:00 PM

Stainless gets my vote

Jack-Diesel · 08-03-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BgBlDodge

cumminsperformanceparts.com

Jamie sells em and can set ya up right.

Engineered Diesel is a Stainless Diesel Manifold Dealer also

*GOT-Torque* · 08-03-2011, 09:46 PM

I love my t4 steedspeed on my 6.7 swap. Fit and finish was excellent. I've yet to see a new stainless one in person, I may end up running one on my puller.

f6jbob · 08-03-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 97rada

are the results known to this test? i am not sure what one to get i hear great about both

I don't know the results, I just know that it happened. Call and ask Patty about it.

*Blacksdieselhp* · 08-03-2011, 10:58 PM

I have ran both Stainless Diesel and Steed Speed. Havent noticed any loss or gain between either manifold. I can say both are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than any of the 3 piece manifolds. I am running the steed speed now because of the external gate flange and the straight t4 flange. I love the straight flange vs the angled. Everything fits great with a single. I also am running twins on my pro street truck with the straight flange, but my big charger is to the side, not under.

Freezingsystems · 08-03-2011, 11:02 PM

IMO I like the heavy stainless for holding the heat in for spool up once up to temp. Flow cold I'm sure would be the same or close. Both great manifolds don't think one will make more power than the other.

I hate rust and I'm a sucker for polished stainless so Johnny gets my vote.

*TMONEYDIESEL* · 08-03-2011, 11:07 PM

I've got the heavy steel SteedSpeed with straight flange and a 44EWG

Tate · 08-04-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NickTF

Would it not be more challenging to fit a primary below a turbo which is not raised up via a flipped over 45* flange? This is from their website:

Is the idea to keep from having the up turned 45* flange causing interference issues when placing an external gate on compounds? I have not built a set of compounds (yet) but I would guess (quite possibly guessing wrong) that having the turbo come straight out would be more difficult to to allow for placement of the primary?

The three of us in Airdrie have been building a couple sets of small twins for 3rd gens with the straight flange Steed manifold. With an S400 with standard cover, or a GT42, it fits no problem. We were using the source auto mounts, for reference of height. The straight manifold is great for wastegate clearance (used both Tial V44 as well as some china brand 50mm), both trucks have had coolant bypass setups. It keeps the turbo down a bit lower than a flipped second gen manifold, and pushes it out a bit farther. No real clearance issues to to the top turbo placement.

NickTF · 08-04-2011, 07:18 AM

Excellent replies in this thread thanks guys!

97rada · 08-04-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickTF

Excellent replies in this thread thanks guys!

Agreed. Thank you very much for the replies.
Will the steed speed accept one of E.D.'s WG's?

*Blacksdieselhp* · 08-04-2011, 03:23 PM

Yes, Im running and ED wg on mine now.

mxhunter147 · 08-30-2011, 09:49 PM

Is the steed speed the same in terms of distance from head towards fender? Trying to figure out if it will be a direct fit for my twins which were built for a 3 piece manifold.

jkidd_39 · 08-30-2011, 10:14 PM

Is anyone running an ED twin plate w/ the straight flange steed speed mani?

*TMONEYDIESEL* · 08-30-2011, 10:18 PM

You could look into the COMPETITION STEED SPEED MANIFOLD.

97rada · 08-31-2011, 12:11 AM

do you have more details about the comp version?

*TMONEYDIESEL* · 08-31-2011, 12:20 AM

Why yes I do

Steed Speed - CumminsÂ*competition header

08-03-2011, 03:13 PM	#21
97crewcab Name: 97crewcab Title: Wrong. Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,804	Quoted from a post by Garrett at Puredieselpower.com about the Steed Speed manifold HERE "Engine dyno testing shows a 30HP gain over other "3 piece" manifolds! This manifold performs as well as the other "3 piece" manifolds with the high-flow center section available from certain vendors, but it provides it with a lower backpressure! We run this manifold on our 3.0 Puller, Black Ice, with GREAT results!" Granted he did say over other 3 piece manifolds not the stainless manifold, but he does sell both brands on his website and he chose the steed for his own truck. I am just trying to put things out there to help with the original question. I have not purchased or used any of the stainless manifolds for myself. I am sure they are good products also. __________________ 94, 95, 96, 97 Dodge Videos Facebook

08-03-2011, 03:17 PM	#22
zstroken Name: zstroken Title: For $$$ your name here Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Michigan(by the lake) Member`s Gallery Posts: 23,151	I would be concerned on the longevity of the Steed Speed and the welds cracking. __________________ 2008 4x4 Megacab, 68RFE 97 Dodge gone.... 24V P-Pump Mafia member #1(retired) Thanks to Mumau Diesel, Goerend Transmission, Northeast Diesel Service!

08-03-2011, 03:35 PM	#23
NickTF Name: NickTF Title: Single turbo turd. Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laurel, DE Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,887	^ life time gaurantee with under 1% failure rate as stated on their website. Take it for what its worth. __________________ 97 12v sold. 2015 Power Wagon DD!

08-03-2011, 07:00 PM	#25
WUnderwood Name: WUnderwood Title: CompD Minion Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,418	Stainless gets my vote __________________ 2011 Ford F-150 Lariat 4X4 RIP BFD99, jponder, and Forrest Nearing

08-03-2011, 09:46 PM	#27
GOT-Torque Name: GOT-Torque Title: is Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Falls City, NE Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,284	I love my t4 steedspeed on my 6.7 swap. Fit and finish was excellent. I've yet to see a new stainless one in person, I may end up running one on my puller. __________________ "Enjoy the little things in life, because one day you will look back, and realize they were the big things" EATSOOT.com

08-03-2011, 10:58 PM	#29
Blacksdieselhp Name: Blacksdieselhp Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,569	I have ran both Stainless Diesel and Steed Speed. Havent noticed any loss or gain between either manifold. I can say both are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than any of the 3 piece manifolds. I am running the steed speed now because of the external gate flange and the straight t4 flange. I love the straight flange vs the angled. Everything fits great with a single. I also am running twins on my pro street truck with the straight flange, but my big charger is to the side, not under.

08-03-2011, 11:02 PM	#30
Freezingsystems Name: Freezingsystems Title: Modify Everything Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chesterton, IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,130	IMO I like the heavy stainless for holding the heat in for spool up once up to temp. Flow cold I'm sure would be the same or close. Both great manifolds don't think one will make more power than the other. I hate rust and I'm a sucker for polished stainless so Johnny gets my vote.

08-03-2011, 11:07 PM	#31
TMONEYDIESEL Name: TMONEYDIESEL Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,706	I've got the heavy steel SteedSpeed with straight flange and a 44EWG __________________ MANNING MOTORSPORTS Office +1 (512) 217-7644 YOUR SOURCE FOR: Camshafts Pushrods Valve springs Custom Turbos Exhaust Manifolds Carrillo Connecting rods

08-04-2011, 07:18 AM	#33
NickTF Name: NickTF Title: Single turbo turd. Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laurel, DE Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,887	Excellent replies in this thread thanks guys! __________________ 97 12v sold. 2015 Power Wagon DD!

08-04-2011, 03:23 PM	#35
Blacksdieselhp Name: Blacksdieselhp Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,569	Yes, Im running and ED wg on mine now.

08-30-2011, 09:49 PM	#36
mxhunter147 Name: mxhunter147 Title: Gear Head Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cape girardeau, mo Member`s Gallery Posts: 187	Is the steed speed the same in terms of distance from head towards fender? Trying to figure out if it will be a direct fit for my twins which were built for a 3 piece manifold.

08-30-2011, 10:14 PM	#37
jkidd_39 Name: jkidd_39 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rolla, MO (Mid-MO) Member`s Gallery Posts: 751	Is anyone running an ED twin plate w/ the straight flange steed speed mani? __________________ Andrew 2005 F-350 King Ranch- Cummins CR convo in progress.. 2008 F-450 CCLB - KEM tunes, Elite Studs/EGR w/ wastegate

08-30-2011, 10:18 PM	#38
TMONEYDIESEL Name: TMONEYDIESEL Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,706	You could look into the COMPETITION STEED SPEED MANIFOLD. __________________ MANNING MOTORSPORTS Office +1 (512) 217-7644 YOUR SOURCE FOR: Camshafts Pushrods Valve springs Custom Turbos Exhaust Manifolds Carrillo Connecting rods

08-31-2011, 12:11 AM	#39
97rada Name: 97rada Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,410	do you have more details about the comp version? __________________ Austin tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

08-31-2011, 12:20 AM	#40
TMONEYDIESEL Name: TMONEYDIESEL Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,706	Why yes I do Steed Speed - CumminsÂ*competition header __________________ MANNING MOTORSPORTS Office +1 (512) 217-7644 YOUR SOURCE FOR: Camshafts Pushrods Valve springs Custom Turbos Exhaust Manifolds Carrillo Connecting rods