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dieselbeef · 07-19-2022, 09:41 AM

needs upper ball joints and one of the tie rod ends so..gonna do it all

2001 and a 2002..

theres a bunch of upgrades..better stuff

want the emf ball joints...450 for moog...650 for the emf so..no brainer

isnt there an upgrade kit for the linkages? i think moog has the stock stuff which is probly good enough

otherwise im gonna go to oriellys and just get the linkage kit as an assembly

ill continue my search

1320Cummins · 07-19-2022, 10:08 AM

Id imagine you're thinking of this....
Tie Rod Ends at Summit Racing

Its a bolt on setup for the 01 & 02

dieselbeef · 07-19-2022, 11:22 AM

yessir..moog makes one also...same one id imagine actually

dieselbeef · 07-19-2022, 11:46 AM

all mopar stuff with moog balljoints is avail on amazon..

some of the stuff i read says the pitman arm needs change too..others dont change it..id rather not ..but the upgraded style is gonna happen on both trucks and all new balljoints too..one truck is 245k..the other is 285k on original parts

1200$ each plus 150 ea alignment..geezus fook

1320Cummins · 07-19-2022, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dieselbeef

all mopar stuff with moog balljoints is avail on amazon..

some of the stuff i read says the pitman arm needs change too..others dont change it..id rather not ..but the upgraded style is gonna happen on both trucks and all new balljoints too..one truck is 245k..the other is 285k on original parts

1200$ each plus 150 ea alignment..geezus fook

I believe the pitman arm swap is only on 3rd gens.

I very much prefer the OE Spicer ball joints over a Moog or their equivalent, but it appears that the Spicers are on eternal back order or are discontinued...
2000 2001 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 3500 4X4 Front Axle Ball Joints Dana 60 Balljoints | CM Gearworks

Its likely time to replace the half shaft joints as well.

Meyers Farms · 07-19-2022, 12:23 PM

245k and 285k on factory ball joints? I didn’t know a second gen front end would stay together that long! You got your money’s worth.

dieselbeef · 07-19-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320Cummins

I believe the pitman arm swap is only on 3rd gens.

I very much prefer the OE Spicer ball joints over a Moog or their equivalent, but it appears that the Spicers are on eternal back order or are discontinued...
2000 2001 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 3500 4X4 Front Axle Ball Joints Dana 60 Balljoints | CM Gearworks

Its likely time to replace the half shaft joints as well.

the moog are actually greaseable..other than some emf or carli..dynatracks they seem to be the best option...

Red Sleeper · 07-19-2022, 03:22 PM

Moog is greasable, but don’t last. If you plan to put another 170k on the truck, you will be replacing those moog joints again. One thing about moog is the lifetime warranty.
We have a truck in the fleet with 450k. Paid for moogs once, the other three sets after that have been free from same auto parts store. Same goes for moog u-joints.

I like spicer products. They might not be greasable, but they last. Or you can be cheap house brand joints and drill/tap your own grease fitting. I’ve done that many times.

*Snedge* · 07-19-2022, 03:39 PM

We go with that Dodge brand kit 1320 mentioned. Seems to out perform the aftermarket as far as life goes. Sure the lifetime warranty is nice, if your time isn't of value. I'm sure you're not getting paid to replace shit.

dieselbeef · 07-19-2022, 06:29 PM

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Marq92 · 07-20-2022, 11:24 AM

Carli doesn't make 2nd gen ball joints. I've heard people have bad luck with dynatrac. Only ones I've heard of people not having issues with is EMF if you've installed them you'd know. But if you don't beat the truck and OEM's have lasted that long then why no another set of those.

dieselbeef · 07-20-2022, 12:55 PM

ill be getting the moog..in stock here and greaseable so...the rest of the stuff is oem mopar but i cant find an oem balljoint

BigPapa · 07-20-2022, 12:59 PM

I would advise against Moog for the 4x4. They’re good on the RWD, but I’ve never seen any last in a 4x4. 15 years ago we installed many sets of Napa Gold that were made by Spicer. I can’t attest now to their quality or if they’re still made by Spicer.

Marq92 · 07-20-2022, 01:48 PM

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Red Sleeper · 07-20-2022, 02:19 PM

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I would advise against Moog for the 4x4.

I would agree. Not a bad joint, but will not hold up for 200k on a 4wd truck like the OEM joint.

1320Cummins · 07-20-2022, 05:18 PM

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I would advise against Moog for the 4x4. They’re good on the RWD, but I’ve never seen any last in a 4x4. 15 years ago we installed many sets of Napa Gold that were made by Spicer. I can’t attest now to their quality or if they’re still made by Spicer.

I personally have nothing good to say about the Moog RWD lower BJ (K7369).
One drive through downtown houston and at least one of those things is communicating in morse code

BigPapa · 07-20-2022, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320Cummins

I personally have nothing good to say about the Moog RWD lower BJ (K7369).
One drive through downtown houston and at least one of those things is communicating in morse code

I replaced the OE ball joints on my ‘95 and then on the ‘98 RWD 2500’s with Moog and never had an issue. The ones on the ‘95 had @ 200K on them when it was totaled and the ‘98’s had @ 200K on them when I sold it.

dieselbeef · 07-20-2022, 07:58 PM

i looked into the reviews kinda thing for the moog and hardly saw any failure crybabies..

them spicers are sweet but pricey..they got the oversize too..which i dont need but shows they got all the stuff....good link thanks..

07-19-2022, 09:41 AM	#1
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	front end time.. needs upper ball joints and one of the tie rod ends so..gonna do it all 2001 and a 2002.. theres a bunch of upgrades..better stuff want the emf ball joints...450 for moog...650 for the emf so..no brainer isnt there an upgrade kit for the linkages? i think moog has the stock stuff which is probly good enough otherwise im gonna go to oriellys and just get the linkage kit as an assembly ill continue my search __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

07-19-2022, 10:08 AM	#2
1320Cummins Name: 1320Cummins Title: 2G Collector Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston TX Member`s Gallery Posts: 330	Id imagine you're thinking of this.... Tie Rod Ends at Summit Racing Its a bolt on setup for the 01 & 02 __________________ 01 2500 QC SB 47RE 4X2 02 3500 QC 48RE 4X4 96 2500 CC NV4500 4X4

07-19-2022, 11:22 AM	#3
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	yessir..moog makes one also...same one id imagine actually __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

07-19-2022, 11:46 AM	#4
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	all mopar stuff with moog balljoints is avail on amazon.. some of the stuff i read says the pitman arm needs change too..others dont change it..id rather not ..but the upgraded style is gonna happen on both trucks and all new balljoints too..one truck is 245k..the other is 285k on original parts 1200$ each plus 150 ea alignment..geezus fook __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

07-19-2022, 12:23 PM	#6
Meyers Farms Name: Meyers Farms Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SW Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,508	245k and 285k on factory ball joints? I didn’t know a second gen front end would stay together that long! You got your money’s worth. __________________ 2013 Ford F-450 6.7 Auto, 4x4, Crew Cab

07-19-2022, 03:22 PM	#8
Red Sleeper Name: Red Sleeper Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lone Star State Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,595	Moog is greasable, but don’t last. If you plan to put another 170k on the truck, you will be replacing those moog joints again. One thing about moog is the lifetime warranty. We have a truck in the fleet with 450k. Paid for moogs once, the other three sets after that have been free from same auto parts store. Same goes for moog u-joints. I like spicer products. They might not be greasable, but they last. Or you can be cheap house brand joints and drill/tap your own grease fitting. I’ve done that many times. __________________ Nick J '14 Silverado LTZ 5.3 4wd '05 Cummins QCSB 4wd 48re '91 Cummins w350 5spd

07-19-2022, 03:39 PM	#9
Snedge Name: Snedge Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Pa. Member`s Gallery Posts: 18,859	We go with that Dodge brand kit 1320 mentioned. Seems to out perform the aftermarket as far as life goes. Sure the lifetime warranty is nice, if your time isn't of value. I'm sure you're not getting paid to replace shit.

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07-20-2022, 11:24 AM	#11
Marq92 Name: Marq92 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 952	Carli doesn't make 2nd gen ball joints. I've heard people have bad luck with dynatrac. Only ones I've heard of people not having issues with is EMF if you've installed them you'd know. But if you don't beat the truck and OEM's have lasted that long then why no another set of those. __________________ 2001.0 QCLB 3500 4x4 3.55 Toyo M-55 255/85R16 Brown's/Goerend 48RE sonnax shafts/maxed count Alto clutches Carli/Deaver 3.0 EMF BJ's PSC 6 bolt box Synergy steering TheRetroShop HID projector retrofit VLED's DC Power 180A alternator W-T ground mod ISSPRO EV2's

07-20-2022, 12:55 PM	#12
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	ill be getting the moog..in stock here and greaseable so...the rest of the stuff is oem mopar but i cant find an oem balljoint __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...

07-20-2022, 12:59 PM	#13
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	I would advise against Moog for the 4x4. They’re good on the RWD, but I’ve never seen any last in a 4x4. 15 years ago we installed many sets of Napa Gold that were made by Spicer. I can’t attest now to their quality or if they’re still made by Spicer. __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

07-20-2022, 01:48 PM	#14
Marq92 Name: Marq92 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 952	Ball Joints 2000-2002 Dodge Ram 2500, Ram 3500 __________________ 2001.0 QCLB 3500 4x4 3.55 Toyo M-55 255/85R16 Brown's/Goerend 48RE sonnax shafts/maxed count Alto clutches Carli/Deaver 3.0 EMF BJ's PSC 6 bolt box Synergy steering TheRetroShop HID projector retrofit VLED's DC Power 180A alternator W-T ground mod ISSPRO EV2's

07-20-2022, 07:58 PM	#18
dieselbeef Name: dieselbeef Title: dick doggin Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: myakka city florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,860	i looked into the reviews kinda thing for the moog and hardly saw any failure crybabies.. them spicers are sweet but pricey..they got the oversize too..which i dont need but shows they got all the stuff....good link thanks.. __________________ 02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race 01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp 07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters, rip wrongway...