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Rig Wrench · 11-09-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaulkner

Going to cut the counter bores or you have a thin plate laying around? Cat stopped making the thin one they used to offer.

Gonna do counterbores. Only cause I have a good size nick in number 5. Then use a standard plate. I have a machine shop that I have shave the plates though. Their parts come out far more precise than cats do.
Tryin to do everything close to perfect as possible. Probly do a full build thread once the chassis gets here

jfaulkner · 11-09-2016, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rig Wrench

Gonna do counterbores. Only cause I have a good size nick in number 5. Then use a standard plate. I have a machine shop that I have shave the plates though. Their parts come out far more precise than cats do.
Tryin to do everything close to perfect as possible. Probly do a full build thread once the chassis gets here

Ok I was going to suggest having the plates ground if you didn't have a plate.

stkdram55 · 11-10-2016, 01:24 AM

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chevota84 · 11-10-2016, 02:16 AM

Even the truck didn't want an isx in it. Was the driver ok?

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stkdram55 · 11-10-2016, 02:46 AM

Yeah the driver was ok, the cab was in really good condition. Other then the mirrors broke off it looked like it was just lifted off and set down next to it. The amount of damage to the chassis is unreal though. The passenger side engine mount is literally ripped apart.

That's two accidents in the last few month that just make me go wow...

chevota84 · 11-10-2016, 02:48 AM

Glad to hear. You see some of those like that and the one I posted and it's hard to believe they could find a live person in there let alone a virtually unharmed one.

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malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stkdram55

Yeah the driver was ok, the cab was in really good condition. Other then the mirrors broke off it looked like it was just lifted off and set down next to it. The amount of damage to the chassis is unreal though. The passenger side engine mount is literally ripped apart.

That's two accidents in the last few month that just make me go wow...

That the truck that hit the fork lift? Couple weeks ago

stkdram55 · 11-10-2016, 09:22 AM

Yes

malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 12:58 PM

Crist Watson mentioned p pumping a ISL 9 and Google found these....
how hard is it to p pump an isl - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together

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jfaulkner · 11-10-2016, 02:32 PM

What's with the P-Pump love? Can get more usable HP out of an electric motor.

malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaulkner

What's with the P-Pump love? Can get more usable HP out of an electric motor.

Simplicity. As I don't have the program capacity to re write the ECM... Nor do I have to mess with a 3rd parry tunner

*zfaylor* · 11-10-2016, 02:59 PM

Not to mention P7100 pumps are prone to failure from the same exact things electronic pumps are. Fuel contamination and low supply pressure murders them just the same. Some people hide behind the big bad PEE-PUMP thinking they can neglect them.

malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zfaylor

Not to mention P7100 pumps are prone to failure from the same exact things electronic pumps are. Fuel contamination and low supply pressure murders them just the same. Some people hide behind the big bad PEE-PUMP thinking they can neglect them.

Bad fuel would kill any injection system..
Naturally, it would be in my best interest to make sure it is well feed with clean fuel. I'd duplicate the filtration and lift pump setup from my LMM to the MD truck..

Is there a program out there comparable to EFI live for the ISL?

*zfaylor* · 11-10-2016, 03:16 PM

Depends which engine/hp rating it has but it can be programmed. There are alternatives that allow you to program the medium and heavy duty stuff similar to efi live as well. coughktagcough I wouldn't write off efi live as being a viable option just yet either....

jfaulkner · 11-10-2016, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by malibu795

Bad fuel would kill any injection system..

Naturally, it would be in my best interest to make sure it is well feed with clean fuel. I'd duplicate the filtration and lift pump setup from my LMM to the MD truck..

Is there a program out there comparable to EFI live for the ISL?

No offense but you sound just like a pickup truck guy. They LOVE to piddle with stuff. Semi guys are totally different because they just want them to run good and be problem free. We flash them and they go away happy. I personally own trucks that were flashed 5+ yrs ago and never touched again. Running the same factory fuel system with no add on pumps or filters. No "upgraded" fuel lines or fittings or special filters that you can't find on the road when you need one.

malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaulkner

No offense but you sound just like a pickup truck guy. They LOVE to piddle with stuff. Semi guys are totally different because they just want them to run good and be problem free. We flash them and they go away happy. I personally own trucks that were flashed 5+ yrs ago and never touched again. Running the same factory fuel system with no add on pumps or filters. No "upgraded" fuel lines or fittings or special filters that you can't find on the road when you need one.

None taken.
Jfyi
The fuel filters on my pickup can be bought at any loves, flying j, pilot, ta, and the MD truck will be the same. they are cheaper last longer than OEM Duramax filters, hence the reason I put them on, hot shut down at the fuel island with bad fuel and oem filter, that wasn't cheap...

There's three basic types of tuners out there
Top end
Drivability
And whole table. From idle to wot

I've found people are generally happy with an upgrade when they don't know it can be made better.
Ignorance is bliss like that..

"Runs good" is highly subjective and pertanent to a said driver

I've told drivers that ask me about my truck, when they ask why I turned it up... Its not that I want to go fast, I don't want to slow down for anything less than a 5% grade, traffic/curves excluded, at full weight

jfaulkner · 11-10-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by malibu795

None taken.

Jfyi

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There's three basic types of tuners out there

Top end

Drivability

And whole table. From idle to wot

I've found people are generally happy with an upgrade when they don't know it can be made better.

Ignorance is bliss like that..

"Runs good" is highly subjective and pertanent to a said driver

I've told drivers that ask me about my truck, when they ask why I turned it up... Its not that I want to go fast, I don't want to slow down for anything less than a 5% grade, traffic/curves excluded, at full weight

Yea but with a P-pump your not ever going to get top end power, low end power and fuel mileage at the same time. Static timing is not going to give you what you want.

J-Pipes · 11-10-2016, 06:45 PM

Afc live?

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malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaulkner

Yea but with a P-pump your not ever going to get top end power, low end power and fuel mileage at the same time. Static timing is not going to give you what you want.

I know. One of the unfortunate down falls of mechanical setups..

The upside simplicity, which is sometimes cheaper.

While I agree a ~400hp ISL could have alot better driving manners than a mechanical 400hp 8.3

malibu795 · 11-10-2016, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Pipes

Afc live?

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Iirc that's a glorified needle valve and couple tubes
Which control how fast fuel can come on...

Static timing is the biggest drawback between mechanical and electric engines

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chevota84 Name: chevota84 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prineville, OR Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,926	Even the truck didn't want an isx in it. Was the driver ok? Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk __________________ 99 Dodge 2500 with stuff

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stkdram55 Name: stkdram55 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 400	Yeah the driver was ok, the cab was in really good condition. Other then the mirrors broke off it looked like it was just lifted off and set down next to it. The amount of damage to the chassis is unreal though. The passenger side engine mount is literally ripped apart. That's two accidents in the last few month that just make me go wow... __________________ Inline 6 Cylinder

11-10-2016, 02:48 AM	#11766
chevota84 Name: chevota84 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Prineville, OR Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,926	Glad to hear. You see some of those like that and the one I posted and it's hard to believe they could find a live person in there let alone a virtually unharmed one. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk __________________ 99 Dodge 2500 with stuff

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stkdram55 Name: stkdram55 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 400	Yes __________________ Inline 6 Cylinder

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zfaylor Name: zfaylor Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: P-TOWN!, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,024	Not to mention P7100 pumps are prone to failure from the same exact things electronic pumps are. Fuel contamination and low supply pressure murders them just the same. Some people hide behind the big bad PEE-PUMP thinking they can neglect them. __________________ 2015 half ton heavy chevy 81 Fairmont LS project Many yard ornament projects... North American Turbo

11-10-2016, 03:16 PM	#11774
zfaylor Name: zfaylor Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: P-TOWN!, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,024	Depends which engine/hp rating it has but it can be programmed. There are alternatives that allow you to program the medium and heavy duty stuff similar to efi live as well. coughktagcough I wouldn't write off efi live as being a viable option just yet either.... __________________ 2015 half ton heavy chevy 81 Fairmont LS project Many yard ornament projects... North American Turbo

11-10-2016, 06:45 PM	#11778
J-Pipes Name: J-Pipes Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,575	Afc live? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk __________________ 2000 Dodge ext cab short bed, 6spd.