Building, and I mean building a 6.0? - Competition Diesel.Com

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 09:29 AM

What parts are available for internals? Rods, Pistons, I have some extra parts, (cam, heads, block to be used as an anchor

) and I am thinking about starting a little project. I know Richard had said billet rods were around 3500.00 but what are some parts that are available. Might even bore out the 6.0 if thats possible. Its just an idea, but it sure would be cool as hell to do. WHats your thoughts, and any links to sites would be appreciated. BTW, I am talking about a no expense spared build here. Might take a while, but I think it would be a bunch of fun.

nummit · 07-03-2007, 10:15 AM

For what it would cost to do what you have planned, you may be better off with a *gulp* Cummins conversion.

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 10:34 AM

Yeah, but how cool would it be to have a 6.0 or 6.something that hangs with one. And besides, I know I can make a 1000 HP cummins, but its more of a challenge to make a 1000 hp international.

bbunting · 07-03-2007, 10:43 AM

Cunningham and R&R make rods, Mahle has pistons. Several places have injectors, we can get enough air to lift the heads.....sounds like fun to me...

nummit · 07-03-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalpilot

Yeah, but how cool would it be to have a 6.0 or 6.something that hangs with one. And besides, I know I can make a 1000 HP cummins, but its more of a challenge to make a 1000 hp international.

Is it a challenge or foolishness?

*Snedge* · 07-03-2007, 10:58 AM

Hummmm...... 1000 h.p. international ? Quite a challenge.

sootman · 07-03-2007, 11:01 AM

you know it can be bored, hence the 08.

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nummit

Is it a challenge or foolishness?

Probably both, but it sure would be fun.

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 11:02 AM

Yeah, The shop that built my boat motors wants to get his hands on the heads to see what can be done.

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snedge

Hummmm...... 1000 h.p. international ? Quite a challenge.

Or just find out what kind of power it can make. I really could care less if its on fuel only too. If it can make 2000 with a chit load of nitrous, I'm cool with that.

Extended Power · 07-03-2007, 11:09 AM

It seems as thou as soon as you push them too much, they POP. ROBTS's truck lasted what...less then a week. (Sorry, just needed an example Rob)

If your going to push it, look at what HAS failed on everyone else's engine, and avoid it by building it with stronger pieces.

With that out of the way...I have seen camshafts, rods, pistons, rings, rockers, pushrods,

etc from both ELITE, and LIPD.

Now who actually HAS them installed on trucks, and actually work...I don't know....No body says a word about "High Horsepower" stuff...maybe it's a big secret, and no one wants anyone else to go faster than them. (The people who have the "High Power" stuff.)

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 11:18 AM

Quite true.

Loose Nut · 07-03-2007, 12:35 PM

ive been wanting to get my hands on a 6.0 motor for the same exact reason. ill be watching this thread

lubeowner · 07-03-2007, 12:43 PM

The 6.0 just isn't quite old enough yet. I think there are two big limitations to take the motor to the next step. One is FUEL delivery and second is LPOP. You can fix the LPOP issue with a sump system but the cost is very high. Air flow was an issue but I know that air is no longer a problem with all the stuff that BBUNTING has with Turbonetics. I think the major limitation is the fuel delivery. Sombody needs to bolt a 6.4 fuel system on the 6.0 with Twin CP3s and some 40% over injectors.

RacinDuallie · 07-03-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalpilot

If it can make 2000 with a chit load of nitrous, I'm cool with that.

Ok come back down outta the clouds.....

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 12:45 PM

I think you know my point there tattoo!

RacinDuallie · 07-03-2007, 12:57 PM

Save your money and do it with more reliability and less cylinders.....

Or maybe you wanna keep your scrap guy happy......

But those numbers out of a 6.blow?? Ya better pass that blunt your done

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 01:07 PM

Hey Jeff, if you didn't read earlier, I was saying, its been done in a cummins, and a D-max. I think it might be fun to do it to a International. Also, I have no goal in mind on HP, just seeing how much it can make. If, and its a big if I do it, I would then need something to put it in. I wouldn't want it as a daily driver.

Extended Power · 07-03-2007, 01:18 PM

WHAT!!! Not a daily driver???

*Dalpilot* · 07-03-2007, 01:44 PM

Not too many 600+ HP daily drivers out there.

07-03-2007, 09:29 AM	#1
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	Building, and I mean building a 6.0? What parts are available for internals? Rods, Pistons, I have some extra parts, (cam, heads, block to be used as an anchor ) and I am thinking about starting a little project. I know Richard had said billet rods were around 3500.00 but what are some parts that are available. Might even bore out the 6.0 if thats possible. Its just an idea, but it sure would be cool as hell to do. WHats your thoughts, and any links to sites would be appreciated. BTW, I am talking about a no expense spared build here. Might take a while, but I think it would be a bunch of fun. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

07-03-2007, 10:34 AM	#3
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	Yeah, but how cool would it be to have a 6.0 or 6.something that hangs with one. And besides, I know I can make a 1000 HP cummins, but its more of a challenge to make a 1000 hp international. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

07-03-2007, 10:43 AM	#4
bbunting Name: bbunting Title: Black Widow Diesel Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Member`s Gallery Posts: 304	Cunningham and R&R make rods, Mahle has pistons. Several places have injectors, we can get enough air to lift the heads.....sounds like fun to me... __________________ www.blackwidowdiesel.com BWD turbo/inj deals! Twin turbo set ups for Ford 6.0 and 7.3 Spec turbos for 2.6-2.8-3.0 here LINK SuperFlow chassis dyno in house

07-03-2007, 11:02 AM	#9
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	Yeah, The shop that built my boat motors wants to get his hands on the heads to see what can be done. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

07-03-2007, 11:09 AM	#11
Extended Power Name: Extended Power Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,978	It seems as thou as soon as you push them too much, they POP. ROBTS's truck lasted what...less then a week. (Sorry, just needed an example Rob) If your going to push it, look at what HAS failed on everyone else's engine, and avoid it by building it with stronger pieces. With that out of the way...I have seen camshafts, rods, pistons, rings, rockers, pushrods, etc from both ELITE, and LIPD. Now who actually HAS them installed on trucks, and actually work...I don't know....No body says a word about "High Horsepower" stuff...maybe it's a big secret, and no one wants anyone else to go faster than them. (The people who have the "High Power" stuff.) __________________ 2003 Ford KingRanch F-350 4x4 793HP fuel only 12.2 @ 113.06mph If It Ain't Broke...Fix It Until It Is!!!

07-03-2007, 10:15 AM	#2
nummit Name: nummit Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,486	For what it would cost to do what you have planned, you may be better off with a gulp Cummins conversion.

07-03-2007, 10:58 AM	#6
Snedge Name: Snedge Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Pa. Member`s Gallery Posts: 18,859	Hummmm...... 1000 h.p. international ? Quite a challenge.

07-03-2007, 11:01 AM	#7
sootman Name: sootman Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: A Volatile State Member`s Gallery Posts: 849	you know it can be bored, hence the 08.

07-03-2007, 11:18 AM	#12
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	Quite true. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

07-03-2007, 12:35 PM	#13
Loose Nut Name: Loose Nut Title: CompD is my E-Pitcrew Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodbine Maryland Member`s Gallery Posts: 109	ive been wanting to get my hands on a 6.0 motor for the same exact reason. ill be watching this thread __________________ 2003 Ford F350 6.0L 4x4 MBRP 4 inch Downpipe and Exhaust Straight pipe, muffler/cat delete - SCT Excalibor 2 w/ DJ's Wild Loony Tune, Quadzilla commander, leveling kit & 35's 2005 Dodge ram Thunderroad edition W/ Hemi 1991 Gmc Jimmy On 1 tons and to many mods to mention.

07-03-2007, 12:43 PM	#14
lubeowner Name: lubeowner Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Platteville, WI Member`s Gallery Posts: 612	The 6.0 just isn't quite old enough yet. I think there are two big limitations to take the motor to the next step. One is FUEL delivery and second is LPOP. You can fix the LPOP issue with a sump system but the cost is very high. Air flow was an issue but I know that air is no longer a problem with all the stuff that BBUNTING has with Turbonetics. I think the major limitation is the fuel delivery. Sombody needs to bolt a 6.4 fuel system on the 6.0 with Twin CP3s and some 40% over injectors. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/lubeowner http://entertainment.webshots.com/ph...65538812rYOaDP

07-03-2007, 12:45 PM	#16
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	I think you know my point there tattoo! __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

07-03-2007, 12:57 PM	#17
RacinDuallie Name: RacinDuallie Title: Black Sheep Racing Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Supporting Northeast Diesel Racing Member`s Gallery Posts: 17,369	Save your money and do it with more reliability and less cylinders..... Or maybe you wanna keep your scrap guy happy...... But those numbers out of a 6.blow?? Ya better pass that blunt your done __________________ Last edited by RacinDuallie; 07-03-2007 at 12:59 PM.

07-03-2007, 01:07 PM	#18
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	Hey Jeff, if you didn't read earlier, I was saying, its been done in a cummins, and a D-max. I think it might be fun to do it to a International. Also, I have no goal in mind on HP, just seeing how much it can make. If, and its a big if I do it, I would then need something to put it in. I wouldn't want it as a daily driver. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together

07-03-2007, 01:18 PM	#19
Extended Power Name: Extended Power Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,978	WHAT!!! Not a daily driver??? __________________ 2003 Ford KingRanch F-350 4x4 793HP fuel only 12.2 @ 113.06mph If It Ain't Broke...Fix It Until It Is!!!

07-03-2007, 01:44 PM	#20
Dalpilot Name: Dalpilot Title: Joe Nobody! Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,373	Not too many 600+ HP daily drivers out there. __________________ 2017 White f-250 COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the best together