Recommendation for Ppump Conversion needed: - Competition Diesel.Com

TheDieselShop · 04-12-2017, 01:08 PM

We are building a 2.5 truck. It's a 2001 Dodge that we are going to do a ppump conversion on. I was thinking of using crazy Carl's turbos conversion kit. Any suggestions?

bigstacks95 · 04-12-2017, 01:37 PM

I just did one at my shop out of stuff we pieced together off of a 12 valve parts motor. You will need from a 12v engine:

Timing Case
Timing cover
Pump (obviously)
Rear pump support bracket
Pump gear
Pump nut and lock washer

Other stuff you'll need:
fuel lines (Scheid)
intake spacer (Scheid)
Cam sensor adapter for 00-02 trucks (Pure diesel power)
APPS adapter mount for pump (Crazy Carl)
Pump oil restrictor fitting (Crazy Carl)
Pump oil line (I made one that ran from one of the other oil galley plugs along the block, and used a 10mm x 1.0 thread to -4an adaptor with a copper sealing washer in the block, then had a hydraulic shop make a -4 line the right length)

I think that pretty much covered it.... Labor wise its a very easy swap, just time consuming. In hindsight it probably would have been easier to order the conversion kit but we ended up saving a few bucks for our customer

Sarafin · 04-12-2017, 03:37 PM

I have 01 for my pulling truck. I did the easiest thing and just took the old motor and put a 12 valve in lol

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TheDieselShop · 04-12-2017, 06:01 PM

Bigstacks95.....thanx for the input man. I appreciate it.

bigstacks95 · 04-12-2017, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDieselShop

Bigstacks95.....thanx for the input man. I appreciate it.

No prob, the other thing I forgot is you need to find some place to mount the ECM if you plan on using factory guages, air intake heater, or automatic transmission. I just used a piece of flat stock and hung it off the master cylinder.

TheDieselShop · 04-14-2017, 03:21 PM

Crazy carls dont return emails or answer the phone so does anybody else have suggestions on where to get a ppump conversion kit?

Sarafin · 04-14-2017, 04:55 PM

Someone just posted one of his conversion kits for $1k in the for sale section

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*TURBOLVR* · 04-14-2017, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDieselShop

Crazy carls dont return emails or answer the phone so does anybody else have suggestions on where to get a ppump conversion kit?

You asked for dealer inquiry, so I forwarded it to Diana as she handles that. If you want to actually buy something, its listed on the website and easy to do.

YoungDiesel27 · 04-14-2017, 07:34 PM

Can they be bought at TheDieselShop?

RDPsmoker · 04-15-2017, 12:18 AM

I'd buy a kit. And I'll say I've had nothing but good experience with Carl has always responded to my emails within couple minutes

CREED1 · 04-15-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDieselShop

Crazy carls dont return emails or answer the phone so does anybody else have suggestions on where to get a ppump conversion kit?

If you want a Chinese made gearcase with the wrong size bore and no support after the sale buy from Carl....

TheDieselShop · 04-15-2017, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TURBOLVR

You asked for dealer inquiry, so I forwarded it to Diana as she handles that. If you want to actually buy something, its listed on the website and easy to do.

Check that email out. I had some questions on your kit that I needed answered before buying. But I got that sorted out thru some other channels.

Have a great Easter!!

TheDieselShop · 04-15-2017, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TURBOLVR

You asked for dealer inquiry, so I forwarded it to Diana as she handles that. If you want to actually buy something, its listed on the website and easy to do.

Are there any Chinese parts in the kit?

CREED1 · 04-15-2017, 01:12 PM

Injector line girdle/support doesnt clear his intake plate.. his response those arent my lines I buy them from Scheid..

#2 injector line nut @ head damn near impossible to tighten once again thanks to that nice intake plate...

Gear case bore not the correct size wont seal the pump oring.. can literally touch the oring with a screwdriver with pump bolted on the gap is so large.. Carls answer I was out of gearcases when customer purchased so we sourced that one from DAP...

*TURBOLVR* · 04-15-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CREED1

If you want a Chinese made gearcase with the wrong size bore and no support after the sale buy from Carl....

**** off asshole!

*TURBOLVR* · 04-15-2017, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CREED1

Injector line girdle/support doesnt clear his intake plate.. his response those arent my lines I buy them from Scheid..

thats not what I said. Nice hack job on the install BTW. quality work right there!

#2 injector line nut @ head damn near impossible to tighten once again thanks to that nice intake plate...

I install them all the time (as do many others) w/o issue, maybe you're just a poor mechanic?

Gear case bore not the correct size wont seal the pump oring.. can literally touch the oring with a screwdriver with pump bolted on the gap is so large.. Carls answer I was out of gearcases when customer purchased so we sourced that one from DAP...

This what the fun is all about. I was out of my normal supply of gear cases. To keep customers happy, I overnight some from someone else and ship them out. Customer then contacts me after driving the truck around saying its leaking oil. I say I will replace the part for free. He says he wants me to pay for his install too. I say no. He then vows to talk trash any chance he gets. and here we are.

CREED1 · 04-16-2017, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TURBOLVR

This what the fun is all about. I was out of my normal supply of gear cases. To keep customers happy, I overnight some from someone else and ship them out. Customer then contacts me after driving the truck around saying its leaking oil. I say I will replace the part for free. He says he wants me to pay for his install too. I say no. He then vows to talk trash any chance he gets. and here we are.

Lol truck was never drove as it never even left the shop it was leaking from minute one of startup... I love your replies it shows your true character which was the main point I was after if it cost you one single sell then I am satisfied... Thanks again

CREED1 · 04-16-2017, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TURBOLVR

**** off asshole!

Your welcome!

Ram12vcummins · 04-16-2017, 07:12 AM

How does a timing cover not fit a ppump?

Signature600 · 04-16-2017, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram12vcummins

How does a timing cover not fit a ppump?

Bad China product....I had to say bad, because some things that come out of China are quite good.

Chris

04-12-2017, 01:08 PM	#1
TheDieselShop Name: TheDieselShop Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: No Fun State, Mn. Member`s Gallery Posts: 38	Recommendation for Ppump Conversion needed: We are building a 2.5 truck. It's a 2001 Dodge that we are going to do a ppump conversion on. I was thinking of using crazy Carl's turbos conversion kit. Any suggestions?

04-12-2017, 03:37 PM	#3
Sarafin Name: Sarafin Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 311	I have 01 for my pulling truck. I did the easiest thing and just took the old motor and put a 12 valve in lol Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk __________________ 2012 Ram 3500 - studded, deleted, HPP Tuned 3.0 Pull truck - 'Smokin' Rodent'

04-14-2017, 04:55 PM	#7
Sarafin Name: Sarafin Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 311	Someone just posted one of his conversion kits for $1k in the for sale section Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk __________________ 2012 Ram 3500 - studded, deleted, HPP Tuned 3.0 Pull truck - 'Smokin' Rodent'

04-14-2017, 07:34 PM	#9
YoungDiesel27 Name: YoungDiesel27 Title: Never Enough Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West Virginia Member`s Gallery Posts: 825	Can they be bought at TheDieselShop? __________________ EFI Live, HP Tuners, Smarty custom tuning

04-15-2017, 12:18 AM	#10
RDPsmoker Name: RDPsmoker Title: OUT TO LUNCH.. Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Casper or Laramie WY Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,815	I'd buy a kit. And I'll say I've had nothing but good experience with Carl has always responded to my emails within couple minutes __________________ -DUSTIN- THANKS TO MAXTORQ 95 2500 -DPC -SUNCOAST *03 3500* -Stock for now

04-12-2017, 01:37 PM	#2
bigstacks95 Name: bigstacks95 Title: Diesel Doc Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Falls Village, CT Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,030	I just did one at my shop out of stuff we pieced together off of a 12 valve parts motor. You will need from a 12v engine: Timing Case Timing cover Pump (obviously) Rear pump support bracket Pump gear Pump nut and lock washer Other stuff you'll need: fuel lines (Scheid) intake spacer (Scheid) Cam sensor adapter for 00-02 trucks (Pure diesel power) APPS adapter mount for pump (Crazy Carl) Pump oil restrictor fitting (Crazy Carl) Pump oil line (I made one that ran from one of the other oil galley plugs along the block, and used a 10mm x 1.0 thread to -4an adaptor with a copper sealing washer in the block, then had a hydraulic shop make a -4 line the right length) I think that pretty much covered it.... Labor wise its a very easy swap, just time consuming. In hindsight it probably would have been easier to order the conversion kit but we ended up saving a few bucks for our customer __________________ --Dave-- 58 Dodge Power Wagon 3.0 Limited Pro Stock diesel pulling truck 2020 Ram 3500 HO/Aisin Laramie/night tow rig

04-12-2017, 06:01 PM	#4
TheDieselShop Name: TheDieselShop Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: No Fun State, Mn. Member`s Gallery Posts: 38	Bigstacks95.....thanx for the input man. I appreciate it.

04-14-2017, 03:21 PM	#6
TheDieselShop Name: TheDieselShop Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: No Fun State, Mn. Member`s Gallery Posts: 38	Crazy carls dont return emails or answer the phone so does anybody else have suggestions on where to get a ppump conversion kit?

04-15-2017, 01:12 PM	#14
CREED1 Name: CREED1 Title: Throwed Off Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cleveland, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,880	Injector line girdle/support doesnt clear his intake plate.. his response those arent my lines I buy them from Scheid.. #2 injector line nut @ head damn near impossible to tighten once again thanks to that nice intake plate... Gear case bore not the correct size wont seal the pump oring.. can literally touch the oring with a screwdriver with pump bolted on the gap is so large.. Carls answer I was out of gearcases when customer purchased so we sourced that one from DAP...

04-16-2017, 07:12 AM	#19
Ram12vcummins Name: Ram12vcummins Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2015 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,659	How does a timing cover not fit a ppump?