14mm studs... - Competition Diesel.Com

wildmanben · 03-13-2007, 07:09 PM

Whats all involved in switching to 14mm studs? Besides drilling and tapping block. Dowel pins? Head? Valve covers?

JerrodGlover · 03-13-2007, 07:55 PM

I understand the valve covers will not seal with them.

inline6359 · 03-13-2007, 08:47 PM

i think you have to do the same thing to the valve covers for the 14 as you do the 12's?

DWitcher · 03-14-2007, 12:14 AM

You'll need to have the dowels machined oversized.

wildmanben · 03-14-2007, 07:47 AM

we already got the valve covers machined out.

jkretzer · 03-14-2007, 08:05 AM

my valve covers fit fine, they are very tough to get to seal with the larger nutz on the studs. it is a PITA and takes time to get the gaskets lines up. block must be machined and tapped for 14mms and the head reamed out.

*massdiesel* · 03-14-2007, 08:09 AM

Why dont you look into the 12mm upgraded studs from ARP not the standard ones they have upgraded ones expensive but they work and no machining of anything and can torque them over 150 ft lbs.If you need a set give me a call

wildmanben · 03-14-2007, 12:15 PM

Its not that the studs arent holding, its the block.

*massdiesel* · 03-14-2007, 12:39 PM

Did you rip out the 12mm

oldsmokey97 · 03-14-2007, 02:03 PM

yah he did. I think i read a post somewhere about it.

sorry to hear about it wildmanben.

Lance

DOODAH · 03-14-2007, 02:17 PM

Ben, after I talked to you on the phone last night, I cuoldnt help but feel a little sorry for Josh!lol, I wish ya''ll were just a little closer, and I would lend any help I could,.... on that note, just stick some gorilla glue down the holes,throw your studs in slap the head on with more G-glue, and let itr sit for a few days!!!

I heard of suff stuff simalar to JB weld, but 100 times stronger, I wonder if you could do something like that withfilling your holes, re-dril and tap, your holes, and slap your 12s in??, I know how badly he dont want to go with the 14MM but I really dont think there is much choice......
shawn

DieselTweaker · 03-14-2007, 10:45 PM

if you have already pulled a 12mm stud why take meat away and put in a 14mm, there is already a lack of material there.

12mm's do the job just fine.

Zach

wildmanben · 03-14-2007, 11:04 PM

so whats then?

DOODAH · 03-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

if you have already pulled a 12mm stud why take meat away and put in a 14mm, there is already a lack of material there.

12mm's do the job just fine.

Thats the problem, the 12mms pulled out of the block!!!, seams there was a problem with sizing up the correct Helix-coils {they were needed after another problem showed up},, and the threads got taped a hair to big, and they pulled out!!!

, so now, he is lookin at his options as the engine is out of the truck now........

snow ram · 03-15-2007, 09:39 AM

anyone want to buy a 12 valve?
we will know more by this weekend if the old girl lives or if she gets another gun shot wound

oldsmokey97 · 03-15-2007, 11:18 PM

lol ................ drill that shizzit out and put in some 14mm!!!!!!!!!! (either its me or the whiskey talking) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lance

03-13-2007, 07:09 PM	#1
wildmanben Name: wildmanben Title: Farmboy... Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Dakota Member`s Gallery Posts: 884	14mm studs... Whats all involved in switching to 14mm studs? Besides drilling and tapping block. Dowel pins? Head? Valve covers? __________________ 98 2500 QC SB 12v 5sp Country Performance Diesel PureFlow Technologies Southbend Clutch Bullseye Power JL Machine Fluidampr

03-13-2007, 08:47 PM	#3
inline6359 Name: inline6359 Title: Microwaving cats since 01 Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Western PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,043	i think you have to do the same thing to the valve covers for the 14 as you do the 12's? __________________ "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it"-Einstein

03-14-2007, 07:47 AM	#5
wildmanben Name: wildmanben Title: Farmboy... Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Dakota Member`s Gallery Posts: 884	we already got the valve covers machined out. __________________ 98 2500 QC SB 12v 5sp Country Performance Diesel PureFlow Technologies Southbend Clutch Bullseye Power JL Machine Fluidampr

03-14-2007, 08:09 AM	#7
massdiesel Name: massdiesel Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 432	Why dont you look into the 12mm upgraded studs from ARP not the standard ones they have upgraded ones expensive but they work and no machining of anything and can torque them over 150 ft lbs.If you need a set give me a call __________________ Scott Hovey MassDiesel Performance www.Massdiesel.Com

03-14-2007, 12:15 PM	#8
wildmanben Name: wildmanben Title: Farmboy... Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Dakota Member`s Gallery Posts: 884	Its not that the studs arent holding, its the block. __________________ 98 2500 QC SB 12v 5sp Country Performance Diesel PureFlow Technologies Southbend Clutch Bullseye Power JL Machine Fluidampr

03-13-2007, 07:55 PM	#2
JerrodGlover Name: JerrodGlover Title: Pulling God Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,122	I understand the valve covers will not seal with them.

03-14-2007, 12:14 AM	#4
DWitcher Name: DWitcher Title: Dr. Frankenstein Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bakersfield, CA. Member`s Gallery Posts: 441	You'll need to have the dowels machined oversized.

03-14-2007, 08:05 AM	#6
jkretzer Name: jkretzer Title: MegaCrank Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hunting, fishing or at work Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,444	my valve covers fit fine, they are very tough to get to seal with the larger nutz on the studs. it is a PITA and takes time to get the gaskets lines up. block must be machined and tapped for 14mms and the head reamed out.

03-14-2007, 12:39 PM	#9
massdiesel Name: massdiesel Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 432	Did you rip out the 12mm __________________ Scott Hovey MassDiesel Performance www.Massdiesel.Com

03-14-2007, 02:03 PM	#10
oldsmokey97 Name: oldsmokey97 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	yah he did. I think i read a post somewhere about it. sorry to hear about it wildmanben. Lance __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the BEST Together

03-14-2007, 02:17 PM	#11
DOODAH Name: DOODAH Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Elma, Iowa Member`s Gallery Posts: 350	Ben, after I talked to you on the phone last night, I cuoldnt help but feel a little sorry for Josh!lol, I wish ya''ll were just a little closer, and I would lend any help I could,.... on that note, just stick some gorilla glue down the holes,throw your studs in slap the head on with more G-glue, and let itr sit for a few days!!! I heard of suff stuff simalar to JB weld, but 100 times stronger, I wonder if you could do something like that withfilling your holes, re-dril and tap, your holes, and slap your 12s in??, I know how badly he dont want to go with the 14MM but I really dont think there is much choice...... shawn __________________ 2007 megacab dark mineral gray 4x4 315s built auto

03-14-2007, 10:45 PM	#12
DieselTweaker Name: DieselTweaker Title: No Box No bottle Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 466	if you have already pulled a 12mm stud why take meat away and put in a 14mm, there is already a lack of material there. 12mm's do the job just fine. Zach __________________ 89 RED W250 LE P-Pump, Output Shaft MIA

03-14-2007, 11:04 PM	#13
wildmanben Name: wildmanben Title: Farmboy... Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Dakota Member`s Gallery Posts: 884	so whats then? __________________ 98 2500 QC SB 12v 5sp Country Performance Diesel PureFlow Technologies Southbend Clutch Bullseye Power JL Machine Fluidampr

03-15-2007, 09:39 AM	#15
snow ram Name: snow ram Title: Newb Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Member`s Gallery Posts: 141	anyone want to buy a 12 valve? we will know more by this weekend if the old girl lives or if she gets another gun shot wound __________________ i wish i had something smart to put here

03-15-2007, 11:18 PM	#16
oldsmokey97 Name: oldsmokey97 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 744	lol ................ drill that shizzit out and put in some 14mm!!!!!!!!!! (either its me or the whiskey talking) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lance __________________ COMPETITIONDIESEL.COM Bringing the BEST Together