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crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 03:34 PM

as i sit here studying for my advancement test tomorrow, i was thinking, could i drill and tap 6 holes in my intake plate and run jets facing the intake valves? also could one solenoid run all six jets?

SHughes · 11-03-2010, 03:41 PM

not much space for six nozzles in the front.

one solenoid to all six would work, but not flow well.

one nozzle in the intake is all you need for your application

crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 03:58 PM

gotcha, thanks. i figured out that i have -4 line and the solenoid is the NOS 16020. on the jegs page is says capable of flowing up to 175hp. which in my eyes is small for what i want it to do

*JQmile* · 11-03-2010, 04:03 PM

Remember the whole PI x R^2 when trying to figure out the flow of jets....as in a .157 jet isn't twice as much nitrous as an .080, it's almost 4 times as much.

crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 04:09 PM

i took 11th grade algrebra twice so i pretty much phucked lol

*JQmile* · 11-03-2010, 04:11 PM

As long as you have hobbes switches to shut it off in case you blow a boot, and you don't overspeed your turbo or defuel, you should be fine.

crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 04:18 PM

im going to start off small and work my way up. but looking at the NOS jets they give the following options .067 .073 .076 .082 .085 .095 .102

rockjeep73 · 11-03-2010, 05:54 PM

That solenoid is really small, flows about .070, can't remember the exact number. You can get jets in just about every size available in incriments of .001"

crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 08:11 PM

they guy i bought it from said it may have been used on a car. so techinically could i just not use a jet and run the just the line to the horn?

*JQmile* · 11-03-2010, 08:30 PM

You could, but the -3 lines will still only flow about 0.078....even with no jet, that's about the biggest you'll get, and it may or may not seal without the tapered fitting depending on the style of nozzle you have. Just bump up the bottle pressure to like 1,100psi

crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 08:37 PM

gotcha, so can i run the current (small) soleniod as a purge and just buy a bigger one and a set of jets?

rockjeep73 · 11-03-2010, 08:51 PM

yes that would be your best bet

crabbelle · 11-03-2010, 08:53 PM

thanks for all the help, i thought figuring out air ride sh1t was hard

*RJM06590* · 11-03-2010, 09:11 PM

Why not a wot switch with a hobbs killing it at 40psi?

Blowby · 11-03-2010, 09:14 PM

Just a 7.3 users info. Might help, might not. I run a .04 in the horn for the WOT (electronic ZEX) 1st stage. I also have a mechanical switch to start the set of 3 timers that activate stage 2,3 and 4. The 2nd and 3rd stage are pre IC and post IC right at the inlet/outlets. to give a softer hit on the 2nd stage (pre IC). The 4th is on the horn to deliver before the 1/8 mile and uses a .125 solenoid and all the others are only .073 max flow based on the opening. This allows me to jet a smooth continuous pull all the way down the track and not a hard hit off the line with a single or dual stage.

This is an excel I put together for multiple jets. Just add the jet size for the stage (zero if you don't have all the stages) and the actual single size will be displayed at the bottom. Multi Jet Calculator Hope this helps!

VMAX · 11-03-2010, 09:18 PM

Running a drilled out pill is a better idea than no pill. I hear it flows more consistent and keeps pressures steady.

VMAX · 11-03-2010, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowby

Just a 7.3 users info. Might help, might not. I run a .04 in the horn for the WOT (electronic ZEX) 1st stage. I also have a mechanical switch to start the set of 3 timers that activate stage 2,3 and 4. The 2nd and 3rd stage are pre IC and post IC right at the inlet/outlets. to give a softer hit on the 2nd stage (pre IC). The 4th is on the horn to deliver before the 1/8 mile and uses a .125 solenoid and all the others are only .073 max flow based on the opening. This allows me to jet a smooth continuous pull all the way down the track and not a hard hit off the line with a single or dual stage.

This is an excel I put together for multiple jets. Just add the jet size for the stage (zero if you don't have all the stages) and the actual single size will be displayed at the bottom. Multi Jet Calculator Hope this helps!

Good lord is that a bottle a run for you? I think a bigger initial hit will help more to get the 60 down. Unless the tires or suspension will not take more.

Blowby · 11-03-2010, 09:33 PM

I can get 3 runs per 15# bottle easy. The total jet size calculation is .129 for my .04, .073, .06, .078 jets. The 60ft is only 1.70 since I run A/T Tires so I have to make up after the 330ft mark.

CL2000 · 11-03-2010, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24VCummns98

Keep your lines short and your selenoids close. Heres a picture of my setup.

Adam @ Left Coast diesel is the man!

I almost put a pic up of it. The shorter the line the harder it will hit.

11-03-2010, 04:03 PM	#24
JQmile Name: JQmile Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,976	Remember the whole PI x R^2 when trying to figure out the flow of jets....as in a .157 jet isn't twice as much nitrous as an .080, it's almost 4 times as much. __________________ 89 Dodge 972rwhp on the hose, still a VE!

11-03-2010, 04:11 PM	#26
JQmile Name: JQmile Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,976	As long as you have hobbes switches to shut it off in case you blow a boot, and you don't overspeed your turbo or defuel, you should be fine. __________________ 89 Dodge 972rwhp on the hose, still a VE!

11-03-2010, 05:54 PM	#28
rockjeep73 Name: rockjeep73 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,339	That solenoid is really small, flows about .070, can't remember the exact number. You can get jets in just about every size available in incriments of .001" __________________ SHSDiesel.com

11-03-2010, 08:30 PM	#30
JQmile Name: JQmile Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,976	You could, but the -3 lines will still only flow about 0.078....even with no jet, that's about the biggest you'll get, and it may or may not seal without the tapered fitting depending on the style of nozzle you have. Just bump up the bottle pressure to like 1,100psi __________________ 89 Dodge 972rwhp on the hose, still a VE!

11-03-2010, 08:51 PM	#32
rockjeep73 Name: rockjeep73 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,339	yes that would be your best bet __________________ SHSDiesel.com

11-03-2010, 03:34 PM	#21
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	as i sit here studying for my advancement test tomorrow, i was thinking, could i drill and tap 6 holes in my intake plate and run jets facing the intake valves? also could one solenoid run all six jets?

11-03-2010, 03:58 PM	#23
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	gotcha, thanks. i figured out that i have -4 line and the solenoid is the NOS 16020. on the jegs page is says capable of flowing up to 175hp. which in my eyes is small for what i want it to do

11-03-2010, 04:09 PM	#25
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	i took 11th grade algrebra twice so i pretty much phucked lol

11-03-2010, 04:18 PM	#27
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	im going to start off small and work my way up. but looking at the NOS jets they give the following options .067 .073 .076 .082 .085 .095 .102

11-03-2010, 08:11 PM	#29
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	they guy i bought it from said it may have been used on a car. so techinically could i just not use a jet and run the just the line to the horn?

11-03-2010, 08:37 PM	#31
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	gotcha, so can i run the current (small) soleniod as a purge and just buy a bigger one and a set of jets?

11-03-2010, 08:53 PM	#33
crabbelle Name: crabbelle Title: Banned Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,795	thanks for all the help, i thought figuring out air ride sh1t was hard

11-03-2010, 09:11 PM	#34
RJM06590 Name: RJM06590 Title: What to do Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Middletown, DE Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,913	Why not a wot switch with a hobbs killing it at 40psi? __________________ 95 Fummins, 'Keep Em Cummin' 93 Ford F250 plow truck <Theoretic Designs! Thank you! http://robsdiesel.com/

11-03-2010, 09:14 PM	#35
Blowby Name: Blowby Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: over the rainbow Member`s Gallery Posts: 198	Just a 7.3 users info. Might help, might not. I run a .04 in the horn for the WOT (electronic ZEX) 1st stage. I also have a mechanical switch to start the set of 3 timers that activate stage 2,3 and 4. The 2nd and 3rd stage are pre IC and post IC right at the inlet/outlets. to give a softer hit on the 2nd stage (pre IC). The 4th is on the horn to deliver before the 1/8 mile and uses a .125 solenoid and all the others are only .073 max flow based on the opening. This allows me to jet a smooth continuous pull all the way down the track and not a hard hit off the line with a single or dual stage. This is an excel I put together for multiple jets. Just add the jet size for the stage (zero if you don't have all the stages) and the actual single size will be displayed at the bottom. Multi Jet Calculator Hope this helps! __________________ F250 7.3 Swamps Diesel Performance Gearhead Automotive Performance 1,172 HP / DynoJet - Vid

11-03-2010, 09:18 PM	#36
VMAX Name: VMAX Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,363	Running a drilled out pill is a better idea than no pill. I hear it flows more consistent and keeps pressures steady. __________________ 1978 LIL Red Cummins Express Truck 2015 Ford F250 tow pig https://www.facebook.com/cumminsexpress?ref=hl

11-03-2010, 09:33 PM	#38
Blowby Name: Blowby Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: over the rainbow Member`s Gallery Posts: 198	I can get 3 runs per 15# bottle easy. The total jet size calculation is .129 for my .04, .073, .06, .078 jets. The 60ft is only 1.70 since I run A/T Tires so I have to make up after the 330ft mark. __________________ F250 7.3 Swamps Diesel Performance Gearhead Automotive Performance 1,172 HP / DynoJet - Vid