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Burningtire · 07-25-2012, 10:21 AM

So this is my second year of pulling and as time goes on im trying to learn more. I got a 94 12v regular cab long bed. Has 3 piece manifold, o-ringed head, arp studs, stock turbo (WG Blocked), BHAF gutted, 4k gsk, 5x12 injectors, 193 delivery valves, 60lb springs, pump has some work done, 20 degrees of timing and a built tranny.

I run 33x12.5x16 sts, and when i pull i run 2nd 4low with tq locked. Im not sure on my exact gear ratio but i believe its either 3.55 or 3.73. No lockers.

So what im wondering is where do i go from here? im trying to stay in work stock, so upgrading the turbo isnt a option right now. I got another set of axles sitting in the garage D60 front 4.10 and a D70 rear 4.10 i believe its got stock posi unit. Is the 4.10s gonna help me out? Is it gonna allow me to run 3rd with od off and tq locked? Is it worth my time putting them in? Its a strictly pulling truck that i drive occasionally on the road. Also from what ive seen and heard excab long beds pull better. So would it be worth my time trying to find one and swapping my stuff over? Like i said im just trying to learn and become more competitive with pulling.

Sportster1208 · 07-25-2012, 01:47 PM

Any videos? What's your goal mph and rpms?

Burningtire · 07-25-2012, 02:18 PM

Here is my most recent one from last weekend, camera was acting up a little. Other two were from king of trucks

http://youtu.be/zUcRy1auK-E
http://youtu.be/rkuQmCRv4zA
http://youtu.be/M3YJ5sbehc0

Im not really sure what i want for a goal, right now im doing about 3000rpm and 22mphs little less maybe. whats other people getting?

Charger · 07-25-2012, 03:02 PM

more fuel?

Burningtire · 07-25-2012, 03:33 PM

In a few weeks im gonna up my timing back to 24 and put some bigger injectors in.

Sportster1208 · 07-25-2012, 05:13 PM

Is this a strictly pulling play toy or street drivin also? I agree with more fuel what fuel plate are you running and are you running AFC? If so has it been modified with the washers and maxing out rack travel? What kind of boost are you seeing? EGT temps?

Burningtire · 07-25-2012, 05:51 PM

Its a strictly pulling truck. But still street legal so I wanna I can take it down the road. There's no fuel plate and yes the pump has been modified. Only thing I haven't done is put mack rack plug on. I'm hitting like 30psi was 38 but I ported the head a little. And I don't have a egt gauge

oldestof11 · 07-25-2012, 06:59 PM

A turbo off of a later truck allowed?

IF so, a 04.5-07 5.9L HE351CW would help bump up the power with more usable air.

Then I would do lockers and traction bars.

4:10's may help. How many RPMs are you carrying down the track?

Sportster1208 · 07-25-2012, 07:15 PM

I would loose the bumper and move your hitch in two holes, you'll have to cut it to fit around your spring perch and drill two holes but it'll definetly help. 4:10's will get you more rpms but I wouldn't suggest another Dana 70 if you can help it.

Burningtire · 07-25-2012, 07:19 PM

My pulling club days stock OEM for the truck so I can put a newer one on. I was thinking bigger exhaust housing. Hitch can't no further in than the tailgate but I can put it in a lil further. I'm pushing 3000rpm and I have traction bars

Sportster1208 · 07-25-2012, 08:11 PM

Mine sticks out past the tailgate

Timebomb · 07-25-2012, 10:20 PM

Needs more fuel. Go with a higher flow D.V. Also the 70 rear may noy be the best choice if you decide to pull more often and or upgrade your power down the road. I would look for a Dana 80 for the rear or a 14 bolt.

Burningtire · 07-26-2012, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timebomb

Needs more fuel. Go with a higher flow D.V. Also the 70 rear may noy be the best choice if you decide to pull more often and or upgrade your power down the road. I would look for a Dana 80 for the rear or a 14 bolt.

I got 193s already, im running 5x12 injectors and im gonna bump up to 5x16 or 5x18. As for now im gonna stick with the 70 because i already have it.

So will 4.10s work for me or no? if not what gears should i be running? So far from what ive gathered. I need more fuel, hitch needs to be in more, and lockers. Well i cant afford lockers right now. im not gonna be putting in the new axles till next season. I barley drive this truck on the road, so could i get away with welding the rear for now?

Sportster1208 · 07-26-2012, 08:32 AM

As long as you know the risks and your willing to take them weld them up! That's only a decision you can make!

Burningtire · 07-26-2012, 10:00 AM

Yes im aware of the risks. and i see alot of people run like 4.88 as gears, is that something i should look into to? Also if i bought a extended cab long bed would that be worth my time swapping everything over? Thanks!

blackcoal · 07-26-2012, 10:13 PM

more rpms would help with your wheel speed too

Burningtire · 07-27-2012, 05:33 AM

well if i put 4.10s in ill get more rpms correct?

TheHammer · 07-27-2012, 05:21 PM

engine rpms

07-25-2012, 10:21 AM	#1
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	Need some help So this is my second year of pulling and as time goes on im trying to learn more. I got a 94 12v regular cab long bed. Has 3 piece manifold, o-ringed head, arp studs, stock turbo (WG Blocked), BHAF gutted, 4k gsk, 5x12 injectors, 193 delivery valves, 60lb springs, pump has some work done, 20 degrees of timing and a built tranny. I run 33x12.5x16 sts, and when i pull i run 2nd 4low with tq locked. Im not sure on my exact gear ratio but i believe its either 3.55 or 3.73. No lockers. So what im wondering is where do i go from here? im trying to stay in work stock, so upgrading the turbo isnt a option right now. I got another set of axles sitting in the garage D60 front 4.10 and a D70 rear 4.10 i believe its got stock posi unit. Is the 4.10s gonna help me out? Is it gonna allow me to run 3rd with od off and tq locked? Is it worth my time putting them in? Its a strictly pulling truck that i drive occasionally on the road. Also from what ive seen and heard excab long beds pull better. So would it be worth my time trying to find one and swapping my stuff over? Like i said im just trying to learn and become more competitive with pulling.

07-25-2012, 01:47 PM	#2
Sportster1208 Name: Sportster1208 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 459	Any videos? What's your goal mph and rpms? __________________ 99 2500 standard cab puller 08 3500 dually tow rig

07-25-2012, 05:13 PM	#6
Sportster1208 Name: Sportster1208 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 459	Is this a strictly pulling play toy or street drivin also? I agree with more fuel what fuel plate are you running and are you running AFC? If so has it been modified with the washers and maxing out rack travel? What kind of boost are you seeing? EGT temps? __________________ 99 2500 standard cab puller 08 3500 dually tow rig

07-25-2012, 06:59 PM	#8
oldestof11 Name: oldestof11 Title: Drag racer Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dixon, IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 9,084	A turbo off of a later truck allowed? IF so, a 04.5-07 5.9L HE351CW would help bump up the power with more usable air. Then I would do lockers and traction bars. 4:10's may help. How many RPMs are you carrying down the track? __________________ Jon

07-25-2012, 07:15 PM	#9
Sportster1208 Name: Sportster1208 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 459	I would loose the bumper and move your hitch in two holes, you'll have to cut it to fit around your spring perch and drill two holes but it'll definetly help. 4:10's will get you more rpms but I wouldn't suggest another Dana 70 if you can help it. __________________ 99 2500 standard cab puller 08 3500 dually tow rig

07-25-2012, 02:18 PM	#3
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	Here is my most recent one from last weekend, camera was acting up a little. Other two were from king of trucks http://youtu.be/zUcRy1auK-E http://youtu.be/rkuQmCRv4zA http://youtu.be/M3YJ5sbehc0 Im not really sure what i want for a goal, right now im doing about 3000rpm and 22mphs little less maybe. whats other people getting?

07-25-2012, 03:02 PM	#4
Charger Name: Charger Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,466	more fuel?

07-25-2012, 03:33 PM	#5
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	In a few weeks im gonna up my timing back to 24 and put some bigger injectors in.

07-25-2012, 05:51 PM	#7
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	Its a strictly pulling truck. But still street legal so I wanna I can take it down the road. There's no fuel plate and yes the pump has been modified. Only thing I haven't done is put mack rack plug on. I'm hitting like 30psi was 38 but I ported the head a little. And I don't have a egt gauge

07-25-2012, 07:19 PM	#10
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	My pulling club days stock OEM for the truck so I can put a newer one on. I was thinking bigger exhaust housing. Hitch can't no further in than the tailgate but I can put it in a lil further. I'm pushing 3000rpm and I have traction bars

07-25-2012, 08:11 PM	#11
Sportster1208 Name: Sportster1208 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 459	Mine sticks out past the tailgate __________________ 99 2500 standard cab puller 08 3500 dually tow rig

07-25-2012, 10:20 PM	#12
Timebomb Name: Timebomb Title: Bootney Lee Fonsworth Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Swap Meet Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,069	Needs more fuel. Go with a higher flow D.V. Also the 70 rear may noy be the best choice if you decide to pull more often and or upgrade your power down the road. I would look for a Dana 80 for the rear or a 14 bolt. __________________ 95 12v 4x4 Ex Cab Auto Last edited by Timebomb; 07-25-2012 at 10:24 PM.

07-26-2012, 08:32 AM	#14
Sportster1208 Name: Sportster1208 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 459	As long as you know the risks and your willing to take them weld them up! That's only a decision you can make! __________________ 99 2500 standard cab puller 08 3500 dually tow rig

07-26-2012, 10:00 AM	#15
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	Yes im aware of the risks. and i see alot of people run like 4.88 as gears, is that something i should look into to? Also if i bought a extended cab long bed would that be worth my time swapping everything over? Thanks!

07-26-2012, 10:13 PM	#16
blackcoal Name: blackcoal Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Goshen, IN Member`s Gallery Posts: 515	more rpms would help with your wheel speed too __________________ 1999 2500 QCSB, P-Pump 24valve, Hamilton Cams, South Bend Clutch, and CPP

07-27-2012, 05:33 AM	#17
Burningtire Name: Burningtire Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rhode Island Member`s Gallery Posts: 598	well if i put 4.10s in ill get more rpms correct?

07-27-2012, 05:21 PM	#18
TheHammer Name: TheHammer Title: broke Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2012 Location: juneau wi Member`s Gallery Posts: 738	engine rpms