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04-27-2014, 10:05 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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Need reassurance on my thinking, manual to auto swap.
Ok so I bought me a p pump 24v for work and my 98 will be going under the knife for like the 10th time lol.
So I'm thinking about ditching my 6 speed and going the auto.
First off I want it to look factory swap out the colum dash and pedals.
I found a local wrecked 97 12v with an ats tranny. So my thinking is pull the tranny PCM, wiring harness and tps/ kick down cable. Put all that crap on my truck and it should shift correctly or am I overlooking something.
Also I'm aware of driveshafts input differences etc. just want to make sure it will shift correctly. Thanks guys
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04-27-2014, 10:45 PM
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Name: pratherjoe
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I know the internals on the trans r the same and the harness and the solenoids will work.. Hope that helps
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04-27-2014, 11:13 PM
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Name: Revemup15
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Put your purse down. Buy auto
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04-28-2014, 03:24 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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I'm wanting to or selling it and buying an auto truck. Just curios if I do the swap what all I need to make 47re shift right.
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-28-2014, 03:36 PM
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Name: tornado112
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Ill trade my 94 thats in my sig for your 98
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04-29-2014, 10:26 AM
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Name: murphy41
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The only difference between the 98 and 97 47re is where the OD off switch would be mounted. The 98s would be in the shift lever. I did a full swap on my truck like your wanting to do. Wasn't bad at all to make it shift and look factory. Best bet is to just switch the whole engine bay/PCM harness instead of just switching the trans harness. Other than its fairly easy to do.
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04-29-2014, 12:18 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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well the deal is kinda falling apart on the ats truck. I thought the the trans had its own pcm and harness or am I wrong on my thinking?
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Originally Posted by dvst8r
Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-29-2014, 12:20 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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Ill trade my 94 thats in my sig for your 98
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I bet you would lol. I'm picky only trade would be 98 to 02 reg cab black with leather interior and similar mods.
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Originally Posted by dvst8r
Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-29-2014, 01:30 PM
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Name: murphy41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverBullet
well the deal is kinda falling apart on the ats truck. I thought the the trans had its own pcm and harness or am I wrong on my thinking? |
ON a 12v, your best bet is to just change to the Auto PCM and swap the entire harness. Thats how I did mine, and that was the easiest route.
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04-29-2014, 01:34 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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so I need a pcm and harness from a 96-98 truck correct?
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-30-2014, 10:27 AM
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Name: murphy41
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so I need a pcm and harness from a 96-98 truck correct? |
Yes. In my honest opinion, this is the easiest and best way to make it act factory.
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1997 2WD
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04-30-2014, 10:36 AM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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Did all 47re 96-03 take the same harness? Or did the later ones have different connectors?
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-30-2014, 10:42 AM
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Name: murphy41
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Did all 47re 96-03 take the same harness? Or did the later ones have different connectors?
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The 98.5-03 are going to have different harnesses because of the motor differences.
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1997 2WD
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04-30-2014, 11:58 AM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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that's what I was thinking, thanks Brandon
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-30-2014, 12:03 PM
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Name: murphy41
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No problem man.
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04-30-2014, 01:30 PM
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Name: RickFox
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You are going to have to find the 98 specific harness and PCM for the swap to work I believe since the dash and everything is operated differently in the 98's opposed to the 97's. I bought a 96 or 97 motor (don't remember which) and the connectors on the sensors are different from the 98 harness. The tach pickup and the coolant sensors were totally different just as an example.
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04-30-2014, 03:04 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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Yeah I've been thinking about that I know the 97 motor I have has the same connectors but the 95 motor I put in my truck was totally different. I'm thinking it will have to be 98 only harness since my dash is the new style......
Sounds more and more like a pita
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
Quote:
Originally Posted by dvst8r
Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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04-30-2014, 03:41 PM
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Name: whitneyj
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Or a good reason to go full manual VB?
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04-30-2014, 04:10 PM
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Name: will24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverBullet
Yeah I've been thinking about that I know the 97 motor I have has the same connectors but the 95 motor I put in my truck was totally different. I'm thinking it will have to be 98 only harness since my dash is the new style......
Sounds more and more like a pita |
The wiring harnesses are a cluster... They changed connector vendors from 96 to 97 and the harness is totally different from 97 to 98 to all 12v 47re harnesses are different year to year.
Sent from my flashscan v2
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04-30-2014, 06:07 PM
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Name: TheSilverBullet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by will24
The wiring harnesses are a cluster... They changed connector vendors from 96 to 97 and the harness is totally different from 97 to 98 to all 12v 47re harnesses are different year to year.
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That's not what I wanted to hear lol.
FML 98 12v auto harness will probably tough to come by.
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99 3500 black Laramie~Infinitive Performance Farrel Diesel Service Goerend Transmissions
98 12 valve with all the goodies from 2008
90 w250 "brownie" straight 6 standard transmission
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Originally Posted by dvst8r
Dying is always a way bigger concern than egt's...
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