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07-21-2018, 08:11 PM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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Did it kill your charger too? Mind posting some pictures when you get a chance. Wonder what was the root cause? The liner?
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07-21-2018, 09:53 PM
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Name: malibu795
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Did it kill your charger too? Mind posting some pictures when you get a chance. Wonder what was the root cause? The liner?
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Got hot is my guess... Or they lost a piston and swapped something in it......
haven't pulled the turbine housing off yet.. but looks in the exhaust discharge side nothing obviously and spins freely with no noise....
Pulling piston/liner tomorrow.. got distracted chasing part numbers...
Like to put marine pistons in it...
Only thing I can really find is CPLs
450hp 6cta marine Is 8089
500-600 QSC8.3 marine is 0906
just found CPL listing
piston is 4019886 kit 4025366 for cpl 8089
http://usg.com.sg/UploadedImg/files/...or-cummins.pdf
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-21-2018, 10:29 PM
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 07:15 AM
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 08:34 AM
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Name: malibu795
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According to the ESN number I "supposed to have" piston cooling jets.. 12 of them.. this block has none of them....
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99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 09:10 AM
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Name: malibu795
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according to Genuine Cummins Parts
for my ESN/CPL # 44843226/1262 the block that is supposed to be is 3929524, block that sits in the frame rails.... 3923275...
injection pump is supposed to be 3929524
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 09:20 AM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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Head looks salvageable! Wonder what application the block you had would of been in?
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07-22-2018, 10:12 AM
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Name: malibu795
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It sure looks like it is.. ..
Finding out the hard way I have the wrong block is big kick in the nutts
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by malibu795
ESN 44843226
CPL 1262
according to cummins….
piston is 3917707
liner is 3919937 thick and long version
liner piston kit is 3802407K
rebuild kit is 4955179
3802407 is 3802460(P)/3919937(L)
3802406 is 3917707(p) /3919937(L)
piston 3926961 also keeps showing up in kits
also have seen places state the short thick liners replaced the long thick liners???
and found mahle after market clevitte HD parts.. 10 didfferent piston 16 if you count two of them have 4 different "grades"
https://www.mahle-aftermarket.com/me..._cummins_c.pdf
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40 different part numbers for the same part or having 10 different injectors for the same engine is the Cummins way.
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07-22-2018, 12:11 PM
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40 different part numbers for the same part or having 10 different injectors for the same engine is the Cummins way.
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soo much fun course trying to find a block..need to know all the numbers so you can search the numbers... 
3929605 is build block
with active numbers for block
3968249
3934902
3928965
been able to google these..
3928963
3934906
3971411
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 06:09 PM
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Name: malibu795
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Pulled #4 liner.. found piston cooling jets... Lots of scale on the liner, coolant was mostly water out if the donor Truck..
Liner is the 3919937 for documentation..
Any suggestions on how to get scale out/off the walls on the inside without hot tanking?
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-22-2018, 06:47 PM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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Maybe a die grinder with a small wire wheel, like a 1/4" air grinder?
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07-22-2018, 07:16 PM
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Name: malibu795
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Originally Posted by 95cummins5.9
Maybe a die grinder with a small wire wheel, like a 1/4" air grinder?
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kinda hard to do that inside the coolant passages of the block...
actually took a slag chisel to #4 liner to chip the scale off hoping I could find a number... ended up just measuring it...
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-24-2018, 02:28 PM
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Name: malibu795
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For the time being.....  2018 f450 6.7
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-24-2018, 04:57 PM
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Name: malibu795
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used a 20cc medicine syringe… not exactly top end accurate... but gets me an in-field ball park volume.. current piston bowl volume of ~58cc, add ~10cc for clearance in the head/dead space etc for total of 68cc
503/6=84ci
~84ci per cylinder
1ci=16.39cc
68cc=4.14ci
84/4.14=20.28:1 CR
explains why it started soo well in 10* temps....
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-24-2018, 07:52 PM
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Name: J-Pipes
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How much are you planning to drop the cr?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
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07-24-2018, 07:58 PM
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Name: malibu795
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How much are you planning to drop the cr?
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ideally 17:1 would be nice
marine runs 15.3:1 which might have some cold weather starting isusse nothing a block heater or intake grid heater couldn't solve
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adam
99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-29-2018, 07:54 PM
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Name: malibu795
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Parts show up tomorrow
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99 3500HD LBZ/4l85 C&C semi retired hotshot
07 3500hd LMM RCLB hotshot, GT4088R, ovals
99 FL60 mutt
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07-29-2018, 08:13 PM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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Man you don't mess around. Keep up the strong work.
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07-29-2018, 08:15 PM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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So are you lowering the c.r.? Maybe a wider bowl piston available? I would think it would only kill mileage a little.
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