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Old 06-19-2017, 11:03 AM   #21
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From what I understand, the original head fell between stock and a competition head. Zach went back to the drawing board and came up with the war head for competition. He took the original head design and made it high swirl for a more streetable head, but there is enough material to port it out to make it a competition heads for the rules that require a stock type head.
Hamilton offers exhaust porting for $400 and the intake is supposed to flow better than the stock one.
 
Old 06-19-2017, 12:04 PM   #22
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So its basically a stock head opened up? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the war head is a whole new casting, with much larger runners? Factory size valves? Any other variances?
 
Old 06-20-2017, 08:28 AM   #23
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I haven't seen one with the intake cut off but 1 and 6 ports openings are supposed to match the other 4. with stock valves and no porting it is supposed to flow 40% more air.
 
Old 06-20-2017, 10:52 AM   #24
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So its basically a stock head opened up? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the war head is a whole new casting, with much larger runners? Factory size valves? Any other variances?


It's much more then that. War head is bigger valve,new casting, no runner ect
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Old 06-21-2017, 12:42 PM   #25
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Ports is what I meant to say... Thanks!
 
Old 06-21-2017, 02:22 PM   #26
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Per Hamilton, it flows 40% more than a stock Cummins head. So that's about the same as a decently ported head. But it has room to port it well past that. I haven't seen any numbers though.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:51 PM   #27
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Per Hamilton, it flows 40% more than a stock Cummins head. So that's about the same as a decently ported head. But it has room to port it well past that. I haven't seen any numbers though.
I was going to do your 3/4" pipe plug porting mod when I found out about the street head.

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Old 10-02-2017, 02:37 PM   #28
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I was going to do your 3/4" pipe plug porting mod when I found out about the street head.
Sent my head in to D&J and Drew is going to use some $1200 valves. Good thing I didn't buy Hamilton's $400 ones.
 
Old 10-02-2017, 07:50 PM   #29
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Sent my head in to D&J and Drew is going to use some $1200 valves. Good thing I didn't buy Hamilton's $400 ones.
After I talked to Drew I was thinking the same thing about mine lol
 
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Seats, valves, bowl blending and some port work which I assume is on the exhaust is being done. Where I'm at now I should have gone with their 24v head or a 12v War head.
 
Old 10-07-2017, 09:21 PM   #31
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I've beat on a set of $400 valves for several years now.

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Old 10-07-2017, 09:44 PM   #32
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I've been on both sides of the $400 valve argument. The early ones I got were complete garbage (almost nothing was in tolerance), this was years ago, when they first came out. Have since ran two more sets since they came with the heads and they are actually pretty good. No problems to speak of and run hard. Diesel parts are so expensive, I'm sick of it. Hamilton seems to be one of the very few trying to make an affordable part

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Old 10-07-2017, 09:49 PM   #33
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The valves sourced for a while from Colorado were complete garbage, at least for what I was using them for. I had issues with them but with the new ones haven't seen any problems. Just because it's more expensive it has to be better though, right??
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:55 PM   #34
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I thought Id upload some pictures for you guys of the Hamilton high swirl head. There not the best but you'll get the idea. I have this head on my 3.0 truck and it works well, I ended up doing a side draft and running the 1.75 exhaust valves and 1.85 intake with some mild porting. plans are to have it fully ported for the 2018 season but I wanted to talk with Hamilton first to see that the max flow is in this high swirl head once its max ported.



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Old 10-10-2017, 11:08 AM   #36
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Try a different image hosting site. I'd like to see the pic.
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I thought Id upload some pictures for you guys of the Hamilton high swirl head. There not the best but you'll get the idea. I have this head on my 3.0 truck and it works well, I ended up doing a side draft and running the 1.75 exhaust valves and 1.85 intake with some mild porting. plans are to have it fully ported for the 2018 season but I wanted to talk with Hamilton first to see that the max flow is in this high swirl head once its max ported.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FM..._=w526-h934-no

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try this not sure how to post pics with out using photobucket
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Old 10-10-2017, 12:16 PM   #38
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Cool, thanks for posting. Let us know what he says on the porting.
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