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12-03-2018, 07:04 AM
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Name: dieselbeef
Title: dick doggin
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Best new power steering pump..upgrades?
getting harder and harder to turn almost cant if yer not moving...anything better than a stock replacement?
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02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race
01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp
07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters,
rip wrongway...
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12-03-2018, 12:49 PM
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Name: CorneliusRox
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I went with a Lares and have been happy.
As far as upgrades, Red Head actually machines for larger bearings and in some cases opens up bores for more apply force (easier at the wheel). I just couldn't justify the price tag.
Also, Lares is local to me, but when I went into the shop, the lady told me to buy it off RockAuto and I'd save almost $100 based on the deal they have with them. Shipping was only $8 through RockAuto.
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12-03-2018, 02:18 PM
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Name: paulb
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The first thing I would try is to flush out the old fluid and refill with a synthetic power steering fluid. If it hasn't been done in awhile you might be surprised. My 02 will get hard to turn an it has worked for it in the past.
Paul
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12-04-2018, 06:17 AM
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Name: dieselbeef
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thats a thought...its got 250k on it tho. my buddy says he can palm his with 35's..sitting still. if mine aint moving it aint turning....I don't need a new steering box...just a pump
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02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race
01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp
07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters,
rip wrongway...
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12-04-2018, 07:16 AM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
Title: Old man ***** gossiper
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Try hytran
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
puzzy, tune it.
I don't own anything stock, from engines to boobies I've modded them all. Life is too short to live with mediocre chit.
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12-04-2018, 07:19 AM
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Name: Tobin
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I have a PSC pump with remote reservoir on my 12v in my 77. Seems to be doing pretty good although it does require a special fluid.
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12-04-2018, 07:40 AM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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All my trucks have over 400k. Hytran!
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
puzzy, tune it.
I don't own anything stock, from engines to boobies I've modded them all. Life is too short to live with mediocre chit.
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12-04-2018, 08:23 AM
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Name: CorneliusRox
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 95cummins5.9
All my trucks have over 400k. Hytran!
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Hytran as in Case IH Hy-Tran Ultra?
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'22 DMax AT4 2500
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12-04-2018, 03:50 PM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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Yes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
puzzy, tune it.
I don't own anything stock, from engines to boobies I've modded them all. Life is too short to live with mediocre chit.
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12-05-2018, 06:12 AM
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Name: dieselbeef
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for the oil change ya mean to see if it helps? cool..i was thinking the jd hyd fluid or the Kubota stuff. I have plenty of that around too
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02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race
01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp
07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters,
rip wrongway...
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12-05-2018, 06:39 AM
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Name: 95cummins5.9
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That will work.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
puzzy, tune it.
I don't own anything stock, from engines to boobies I've modded them all. Life is too short to live with mediocre chit.
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12-05-2018, 02:53 PM
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Name: coal_roller13
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Red head, price is steep but I feel it was worth every penny. It's machined with bigger bearings which helps take the load a bit better. 100k on it running 38's zero issues.
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12-05-2018, 06:11 PM
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Name: dieselbeef
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ssaw the redheads but I need a pump..not a box
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02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race
01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp
07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters,
rip wrongway...
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12-06-2018, 07:56 AM
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Name: CorneliusRox
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Originally Posted by dieselbeef
ssaw the redheads but I need a pump..not a box
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I was confused on that part. My bad.
I've been running the bigger AGR pump on my 12V (37's) for years and haven't had an issue. It also helped a ton to turn the tires on dry pavement (probably due to my old pump getting lazy. The only thing that sucked was the adapter on the shaft (press on) was not included with this pump, and I couldn't get it off my old pump. I ended up having to cut the shaft off the old pump, heating/pressing off the adapter and losing my core.
AGR Pump ($238.46):
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/agr-822256/overview/year/1997/make/dodge/model/ram-3500
The other option I've seen a lot of people liking is the PSC pump, which does come with the pressed on adapter and reservoir (although I like the stock reservoir better, and I believe you can swap back to it).
PSC Pump ($242.25):
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pfn-sp1490r/overview/year/1997/make/dodge/model/ram-3500
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'22 DMax AT4 2500
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12-06-2018, 10:57 AM
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Name: thatguy69
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If you lookup on the "other" forum there's a guy who did a lot of research and trial and error stuff on improving the pumps. Compared a oem VS the psc, you'd be surprised at the differences.
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12-06-2018, 02:46 PM
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Name: dieselbeef
Title: dick doggin
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for some reason I cnnot accessd that other forum..but the moparman one I can
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02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race
01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp
07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters,
rip wrongway...
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12-17-2018, 08:08 PM
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Name: Carbur8tr
Title: Green Behind the Ears
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I’ve had them all and can tell you that the differences are there but not worth the extra cash because if you’re running larger tires and work your truck they will all fail at some point in time. Best thing I’ve done is an in-line fluid cooler. Seems to help a good bit especially when moving/parking trailers.
Take care of your fluid and a stock parts store pump should last a few years.
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12-18-2018, 06:16 AM
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Name: dieselbeef
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if I knew oem was as good as the original id spring for one of them....its 250k old and still works..just no unless yer moving..lol
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02 quad cab 4x4 aluminum flatbed 63/68/14 hrvp INJ by weston 4.10 gorend/suncoast method race
01 2500 4x4 quad cab all stock/drag comp
07.5 3500 4x4 dually 4 dr 6.7 d&j extreme, fleece cheetah, gorend triple, cat filters,
rip wrongway...
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