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ylo73z · 11-22-2014, 03:02 AM

When switching tuning how long does it take for the tune to become active ?
When I switch from 2 (mpg) up to 5 (max) I matted it , it felt soft and I was thinking maybe something was wrong let off , cruised then hit it again and then it felt right ...is there a time it takes to switch or does it have to come to a idle then it changes ? I'm just curious just in case I need to engage in a street battle

*LAmiller* · 11-22-2014, 09:12 AM

If your switching tunes while data logging, most of the time its nearly instant, but occasionally it take 3-5 seconds to switch.

Lavon

Tan70 · 11-22-2014, 03:48 PM

Mine is instant at idle and while driving.

ylo73z · 11-22-2014, 07:28 PM

Mine lags ...after thinking about it I switched and rolled for about 3-5 seconds hit it and I was on it for like 5-6 seconds then let out ...then rolled again for another 5 seconds then some where in that time it switched ...it works so I guess inshould be happy but it's not instant

superwagon · 11-23-2014, 02:12 PM

Mine has always been instant.

JWhite · 11-23-2014, 07:40 PM

How are you switching tunes? Do you have a delay programmed into it? Not sure if that's a parameter on CSP just going off of dmax stuff

ylo73z · 11-23-2014, 11:17 PM

No delay programmed in that I know of ...unless the tuner can control that and wrote it into the tunes . Maybe because it's a pass tough style csp 5 and my cts monitor plugs in to it . Not really sure ...just curious if I'm the only one

Cummins610 · 11-24-2014, 12:58 AM

I also run a pass through, at night I can see the flashes of the switch from behind my dash. I notice if I decide it switch levels it will flash in a frenzy for a couple seconds, then if I switch levels again it will do the typical flashing sequence and all is well. When it flashes uncontrollably the level does not feel like it changes.

phale · 11-24-2014, 08:42 AM

The switch does a lot in a short time. Basically it has to: send a request to change the tune, the ecm requests a password, the switch sends the password, the ecm listens for the command to switch to x tune, switch sends command, ecm verifies that tune switched, switch goes dormant so to speak. If there is a breakdown in this loop, the switch starts over. Sometimes it may take a few cycles to get the password properly fed to the ecm and you have a delay. The CAN bus on these trucks is very busy and 6.7 is worse than 5.9 so things can get lost and signals are listened to in order of their assigned priority by the ecm. It might be worth a call to SOCAL to see if there is an updated flash for the switch itself. They have changed a few things since the switches initial release.

ylo73z · 11-25-2014, 02:22 AM

Worth a shot ...it's not bad , just not instant for me

*EFI Support* · 11-25-2014, 06:42 PM

Cody explained it very well.

To see if the CTS is interrupting the CAN bus communications, disconnect it and see if there is an improvement.

To see if the switch is the problem, unplug the switch and use EFILive hardware to switch and see if there is an improvement.

The code has been written so it will continually try if their is a communications failure. I'd be looking to silence things on the data bus

Cheers
Cindy

11-22-2014, 03:02 AM	#1
ylo73z Name: ylo73z Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: so. co. Member`s Gallery Posts: 294	Csp 5 question When switching tuning how long does it take for the tune to become active ? When I switch from 2 (mpg) up to 5 (max) I matted it , it felt soft and I was thinking maybe something was wrong let off , cruised then hit it again and then it felt right ...is there a time it takes to switch or does it have to come to a idle then it changes ? I'm just curious just in case I need to engage in a street battle __________________ 05 st ,Voodoo trucker tranny and still not as fast or as nice looking.. 06 3500 mega cab 2wd auto 340 gears ,5"exhaust,s&b intake

11-22-2014, 09:12 AM	#2
LAmiller Name: LAmiller Title: THE KT-BOUNDARY Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Plain City, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,603	If your switching tunes while data logging, most of the time its nearly instant, but occasionally it take 3-5 seconds to switch. Lavon __________________ 04.5 QDLB 4x4 Diesel Power Challenge 2014/2015 Champion, ODSS 6.70 Points Champion 2015/2016 06 RaceCab 4x4 Ulimate Callout Challenge 2016, 2017, 2018 Champion, ODSS Pro Street Points Champion 2016 2016 QDLB 4x4, Firepunk EZLynk. http://www.shop.firepunk.com

11-22-2014, 03:48 PM	#3
Tan70 Name: Tan70 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2011 Member`s Gallery Posts: 289	Mine is instant at idle and while driving. __________________ *2006 Dodge RCLB Laramie 4x4 48re~* EFI Live, Fleece S475, SteedSpeed, ARP 625s, Hamilton, ATS Duals, Exergy 100%, FirePunk, Autometer, Airdog 150 961HP & 1453TQ

11-22-2014, 07:28 PM	#4
ylo73z Name: ylo73z Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: so. co. Member`s Gallery Posts: 294	Mine lags ...after thinking about it I switched and rolled for about 3-5 seconds hit it and I was on it for like 5-6 seconds then let out ...then rolled again for another 5 seconds then some where in that time it switched ...it works so I guess inshould be happy but it's not instant __________________ 05 st ,Voodoo trucker tranny and still not as fast or as nice looking.. 06 3500 mega cab 2wd auto 340 gears ,5"exhaust,s&b intake

11-23-2014, 02:12 PM	#5
superwagon Name: superwagon Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 40	Mine has always been instant. __________________ 07 qclb, 5.9, Firepunk built auto, efilive, AD-150.

11-23-2014, 07:40 PM	#6
JWhite Name: JWhite Title: Trained monkey Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: F Burg Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,817	How are you switching tunes? Do you have a delay programmed into it? Not sure if that's a parameter on CSP just going off of dmax stuff __________________ GMC with a LiLLY

11-23-2014, 11:17 PM	#7
ylo73z Name: ylo73z Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: so. co. Member`s Gallery Posts: 294	No delay programmed in that I know of ...unless the tuner can control that and wrote it into the tunes . Maybe because it's a pass tough style csp 5 and my cts monitor plugs in to it . Not really sure ...just curious if I'm the only one __________________ 05 st ,Voodoo trucker tranny and still not as fast or as nice looking.. 06 3500 mega cab 2wd auto 340 gears ,5"exhaust,s&b intake

11-24-2014, 12:58 AM	#8
Cummins610 Name: Cummins610 Title: Rookie Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta Member`s Gallery Posts: 455	Csp 5 question I also run a pass through, at night I can see the flashes of the switch from behind my dash. I notice if I decide it switch levels it will flash in a frenzy for a couple seconds, then if I switch levels again it will do the typical flashing sequence and all is well. When it flashes uncontrollably the level does not feel like it changes. __________________ 2005 CR - 1389hp with spray, S4 Single Last edited by Cummins610; 11-24-2014 at 01:00 AM.

11-24-2014, 08:42 AM	#9
phale Name: phale Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 935	The switch does a lot in a short time. Basically it has to: send a request to change the tune, the ecm requests a password, the switch sends the password, the ecm listens for the command to switch to x tune, switch sends command, ecm verifies that tune switched, switch goes dormant so to speak. If there is a breakdown in this loop, the switch starts over. Sometimes it may take a few cycles to get the password properly fed to the ecm and you have a delay. The CAN bus on these trucks is very busy and 6.7 is worse than 5.9 so things can get lost and signals are listened to in order of their assigned priority by the ecm. It might be worth a call to SOCAL to see if there is an updated flash for the switch itself. They have changed a few things since the switches initial release. __________________ ANARCHY DIESEL TUNING EFI Live Beta Tester Cummins/Duramax tuning 423-506-7427

11-25-2014, 02:22 AM	#10
ylo73z Name: ylo73z Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: so. co. Member`s Gallery Posts: 294	Worth a shot ...it's not bad , just not instant for me __________________ 05 st ,Voodoo trucker tranny and still not as fast or as nice looking.. 06 3500 mega cab 2wd auto 340 gears ,5"exhaust,s&b intake

11-25-2014, 06:42 PM	#11
EFI Support Name: EFI Support Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Member`s Gallery Posts: 570	Cody explained it very well. To see if the CTS is interrupting the CAN bus communications, disconnect it and see if there is an improvement. To see if the switch is the problem, unplug the switch and use EFILive hardware to switch and see if there is an improvement. The code has been written so it will continually try if their is a communications failure. I'd be looking to silence things on the data bus Cheers Cindy __________________ Download EFILive software (for free) 2006-2016 DODGE CUMMINS 2001-2016 DURAMAX 6.6L 2014-2016 DURAMAX 2.8L Custom Tuning Software NOW AVAILABLE