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11-20-2018, 06:47 AM
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Name: c12h26
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Originally Posted by Snedge
You like those do ya?
OP, I think the problem with your posts is the use of the word "easy".... It's a slap in the face to drag racers. The faster you go the harder 10ths are to come by. I do wish you luck on your quest, and look forward to seeing your progress.
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The 12.3 was easy and there's was still a lot left on the table. So yes i do think 10's will be easy.
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 11:15 AM
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Name: 5.9 Cummins Fan
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I loved my VE, but it's easier to do with the 215 pump I put on mine. Wouldn't go back either. I think you could do it with nitrous and a good lockup trans.
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11-20-2018, 01:30 PM
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#83
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Name: c12h26
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Originally Posted by 5.9 Cummins Fan
I loved my VE, but it's easier to do with the 215 pump I put on mine. Wouldn't go back either. I think you could do it with nitrous and a good lockup trans.
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I like a challenge
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 03:31 PM
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#84
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Name: SPEEDSHIFT
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Nobody has really asked yet so... Why are you set on using a non-lockup trans and no intercooler?
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11-20-2018, 03:43 PM
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Name: BC847
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I ran a 12.67 @ 6400lbs eight or so years ago through a non lock-up converter*.
* A custom unit Brad designed.
While it was a run of the mill 12mm VE, everything else was not stock.
I've always believed most don't actually realize/use all the potential power from the fuel they move. IMO, You'll need larger injectors with a LOT more air, etc . . .. if only to get closer to your goal.
I'm currently building a 48RH and hope to put a little more to the ground. I've not too long ago put some small triples on and hope, with the new trans, to move into some quicker ETs.
But I don't expect to be real close to 10s. At all.
Good luck.
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11-20-2018, 04:09 PM
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Name: c12h26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEEDSHIFT
Nobody has really asked yet so... Why are you set on using a non-lockup trans and no intercooler?
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Because thats what 1st gens came with 727 or 518. I have pretty much found the rpm limit of the 727 and stock 3.07 gearing. Even with a 33 inch slick i was still going through the traps a close to 4200 rpm. The new setup will be a 518 and probably 3.55 gears with a 315 et street radial pro,
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 05:19 PM
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Name: Red Sleeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c12h26
Even with a 33 inch slick i was still going through the traps a close to 4200 rpm.
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You have fuel at that RPM with a VE?
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11-20-2018, 05:30 PM
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#88
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Name: c12h26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sleeper
You have fuel at that RPM with a VE?
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It was still pulling so i would say yea there was fuel
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 06:10 PM
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Name: Signature600
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12vchevydually has a D100 with a VE pumped/518 shifted powerplant. I think he went 12.30's at 4500lbs with a set of 6x.016's, 3200GSK, S300G/S478 twins, and a walbro lift pump. Non-lockup, factory TC. With a better converter, I think we could have clicked off a 12.0 or maybe even dipped into the 11's.
Is that 10's, not at all. That truck needs the pump pulled and sent off, a better intercooler (we had a factory industrial air-to-water unit on it), and a better converter at least, a 47RH at best. It's an absolute blast to drive.
VE's like a lot of injector, way more than I ever needed with a p-pump at 650hp...but making more than about 450hp takes some effort with the VE.
Chris
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11-20-2018, 06:24 PM
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Name: ofelas
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I would suggest a Type R Acura dual tip exhaust.
It synced my converter flash stall to my AFC fueling without using a higher octane fuel.
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11-20-2018, 06:35 PM
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#91
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Name: c12h26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600
12vchevydually has a D100 with a VE pumped/518 shifted powerplant. I think he went 12.30's at 4500lbs with a set of 6x.016's, 3200GSK, S300G/S478 twins, and a walbro lift pump. Non-lockup, factory TC. With a better converter, I think we could have clicked off a 12.0 or maybe even dipped into the 11's.
Is that 10's, not at all. That truck needs the pump pulled and sent off, a better intercooler (we had a factory industrial air-to-water unit on it), and a better converter at least, a 47RH at best. It's an absolute blast to drive.
VE's like a lot of injector, way more than I ever needed with a p-pump at 650hp...but making more than about 450hp takes some effort with the VE.
Chris
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Look what it took him to run 12.3, then what it took me at more weight. That should tell you something
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 06:42 PM
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#92
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Name: Signature600
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Boy your arm and shoulder must hurt.
Chris
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11-20-2018, 06:52 PM
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#93
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Name: c12h26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600
Boy your arm and shoulder must hurt.
Chris
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Don't be mad because i have gone as fast as i did with stock parts
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 07:02 PM
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Name: Signature600
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I'm not mad. We put that truck together in literally 2 weekends with parts we had laying there. There's not much more than stock there, but for 2 chargers and a set of sticks. It was also in 2009...
I was trying to help your case that VE's can get fast, but since you can't pull your head out of your @$$ and see that, I'll leave you with the rest of the site telling you how it can't be done.
Go out and prove how smart you are instead of telling us, and trying to convince us. Let your actions do it.
Chris
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Tim Barber @ TRE Diesel
Jeff Mumau @ Mumau Diesel Service
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Don Thuren @ ThurenFab Suspension
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11-20-2018, 07:06 PM
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Name: c12h26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature600
I'm not mad. We put that truck together in literally 2 weekends with parts we had laying there. There's not much more than stock there, but for 2 chargers and a set of sticks. It was also in 2009...
I was trying to help your case that VE's can get fast, but since you can't pull your head out of your @$$ and see that, I'll leave you with the rest of the site telling you how it can't be done.
Go out and prove how smart you are instead of telling us, and trying to convince us. Let your actions do it.
Chris
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Like a said, truck will be out in the spring
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 07:08 PM
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Name: RonA
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VE pump racing is diesel motorsports Special Olympics. Everyone is a winner.
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11-20-2018, 07:10 PM
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Name: J-Pipes
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RonA
VE pump racing is diesel motorsports Special Olympics. Everyone is a winner.
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Winner gets to race a VP44 powered truck!
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11-20-2018, 07:53 PM
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Name: jasonc
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RonA
VE pump racing is diesel motorsports Special Olympics. Everyone is a winner.
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Atleast he won't have to worry about breaking anything.
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11-20-2018, 08:10 PM
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#99
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Name: c12h26
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It would be nice if someone else would try it too so i could have some competition
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1965 D100 non intercooled 12v
4" turbo back,pump turned up,bumped timing,S366,354 spring,ground AFC lever,piston lift pump,M/T ET street radials.
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11-20-2018, 08:49 PM
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Name: CTDYoungGun
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c12h26
It would be nice if someone else would try it too so i could have some competition
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Soooo the hundreds (probably thousands) of pee pump and common rail trucks running 10s or faster aren't enough competition for the VE king?
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