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10-31-2018, 07:26 PM
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Name: Muddin_dude06
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Girdle material?
Hey for the guys out there that have made their own girdles or work in the industry what is the material most commonly used or acceptable to use for a main bearing girdle?
I remember a thread years back where it was discussed and opinions were all over the place, some 4340 chromoly, some 1018 and some plain A36(mild). Since the sport has really progressed since then I’d like to know what people Have settled on. I know there are plenty of people out there spinning high R’s and making 1000hp without one but even with that, while i’m Rebuilding my engine I’m very interested in doing one. I already cut one out of 3/8” mild and got all the holes drilled and would like to use it if it’s sufficient.
What’s everyone’s opinion about which style is better, sandwiching the girdle between the ARP nut on the main cap and another nut on top of the girdle or using a spacer (of 1018 CR?) between the main cap and girdle and using the ARP main nut on top of the girdle to cinch it all down? I appreciate any feedback on this y’all
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12 LML crew cab swb 4x4 RC 3.5 lift with 33s
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10-31-2018, 10:45 PM
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Name: Cflanery88
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Girdle material?
Engineered Diesel custom made mine out of I believe 1/2 plate steel. They also custom machined my block so the girdle fit on top of the mains and in between the pan rails with 14mm main studs holding it together.
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10-31-2018, 10:48 PM
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Name: Cflanery88
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06 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4L, Wagler +.080 rods, Hobbit tuned, Exergy150% injectors,Polished s475/87 1:0 A/R Engineered Turbo Billet Wheel,arp625s,14mm main studs,PPE dual fuelers,Hamilton 188/220,extreme pushrods,Fleece bypass/drains/distribution block,110#springs.
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11-02-2018, 04:01 PM
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Name: Muddin_dude06
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Looks slick, it looks like no spacers between the girdle and the main caps? Any idea if it was just mild Steel or something different?
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'96 2500 4x4 5sp. 3 Full Long arm lift w/35's
ValAir DD Clutch w/ Input
DFI 5x.012s, O-ringed, 625s
Hamilton 178/208, pushrods, PDD street springs, S362sxe/.7WG
12 LML crew cab swb 4x4 RC 3.5 lift with 33s
Anarchy tune
5 exhaust w/ Jones 5050XL
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11-02-2018, 04:14 PM
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Name: kleann
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That looks like laser cut 3/8 or 1/2" plate. mild steel.
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11-02-2018, 10:05 PM
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Name: Muddin_dude06
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This is what I have so far. 3/8 mild Steel left over from a job site 👍
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'96 2500 4x4 5sp. 3 Full Long arm lift w/35's
ValAir DD Clutch w/ Input
DFI 5x.012s, O-ringed, 625s
Hamilton 178/208, pushrods, PDD street springs, S362sxe/.7WG
12 LML crew cab swb 4x4 RC 3.5 lift with 33s
Anarchy tune
5 exhaust w/ Jones 5050XL
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11-03-2018, 02:20 AM
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Name: Cflanery88
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Originally Posted by Muddin_dude06
Looks slick, it looks like no spacers between the girdle and the main caps? Any idea if it was just mild Steel or something different?
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No spacers. The caps had to be machined to all be the same and the girdle sits fiush on top of the caps. Then everything torqued to spec. Line board and Machine honed to spec. Its just mild steel.
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06 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4L, Wagler +.080 rods, Hobbit tuned, Exergy150% injectors,Polished s475/87 1:0 A/R Engineered Turbo Billet Wheel,arp625s,14mm main studs,PPE dual fuelers,Hamilton 188/220,extreme pushrods,Fleece bypass/drains/distribution block,110#springs.
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11-03-2018, 08:10 AM
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Name: 9724VF350
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11-03-2018, 08:27 AM
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That looks great, what material did you use for the girdle and spacers? Looks about 3/4” thick?
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'96 2500 4x4 5sp. 3 Full Long arm lift w/35's
ValAir DD Clutch w/ Input
DFI 5x.012s, O-ringed, 625s
Hamilton 178/208, pushrods, PDD street springs, S362sxe/.7WG
12 LML crew cab swb 4x4 RC 3.5 lift with 33s
Anarchy tune
5 exhaust w/ Jones 5050XL
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11-03-2018, 10:31 AM
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Name: 9724VF350
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A36, 1/2" thick spacers, 3/4" thick girdle.
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Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now , 13mm, S475
Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
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11-05-2018, 06:36 AM
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Name: Red Sleeper
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Anyone have a CAD file for gridle to share?
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11-05-2018, 12:07 PM
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Name: Muddin_dude06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9724VF350
A36, 1/2" thick spacers, 3/4" thick girdle.
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Sweet. I think Ill just go with what I have then and not worry about it. I got some 7/16x1 1018CR to make the spacers out of. I should only have to shave them down about .030 to go on the main caps.
I dont have one yet Red but I could probably draw one up.
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'96 2500 4x4 5sp. 3 Full Long arm lift w/35's
ValAir DD Clutch w/ Input
DFI 5x.012s, O-ringed, 625s
Hamilton 178/208, pushrods, PDD street springs, S362sxe/.7WG
12 LML crew cab swb 4x4 RC 3.5 lift with 33s
Anarchy tune
5 exhaust w/ Jones 5050XL
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11-05-2018, 02:12 PM
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Name: SPEEDSHIFT
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That looks just like my D&J Girdle.
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12-21-2018, 06:30 PM
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Name: Muddin_dude06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9724VF350
A36, 1/2" thick spacers, 3/4" thick girdle.
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When you machined your caps/spacers did you leave them proud of the pan rail .0xx or did you make them flush with the pan rail? Right now I have planned mine to be .010 above the pan rail
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'96 2500 4x4 5sp. 3 Full Long arm lift w/35's
ValAir DD Clutch w/ Input
DFI 5x.012s, O-ringed, 625s
Hamilton 178/208, pushrods, PDD street springs, S362sxe/.7WG
12 LML crew cab swb 4x4 RC 3.5 lift with 33s
Anarchy tune
5 exhaust w/ Jones 5050XL
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12-21-2018, 06:44 PM
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Name: 9724VF350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddin_dude06
When you machined your caps/spacers did you leave them proud of the pan rail .0xx or did you make them flush with the pan rail? Right now I have planned mine to be .010 above the pan rail
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.010 is a bit much. I usually shoot for .004-.006
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97 F350 4X4 CC Dually 5spd 24V 913 S300/HT3B Ranch Hand.
Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now , 13mm, S475
Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.
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