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02-01-2013, 05:26 PM
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Name: white99
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JOHN DEERE 6030 needs MODIFICATIONS
Can anyone give advice or links as to cranking one of these up.can the dvs in the inline pump be modified like a 12v etc? Looking to have some fun with it at local pulls once i find the right year but woud like to ve one step ahead.any advice or pointers would be greatly app.thanks-scott
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02-01-2013, 07:16 PM
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Name: SuperSonic
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What series engine are you working with?
Sounds like it has an A pump, or possibly a P3000.
What are our goals with it, ie: what class do you intend on pulling in?
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02-06-2013, 02:36 PM
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Name: white99
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It has a 519 ci turboed with an inline pump.not sure on details thats why i posted on here.another guy informed me about the fuel screw and thats enough for me
Pulling mainly stock classes. Not looking to spend millions just have some fun
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95 3500 4x4 73k auto 8x10ft flat bed.sold
96 2500 eclb 3250 4x4 sdx's,100plate,bhaf,kdp,sps64 sold
99 3500 6speed.stainlessD.fluidampner.Hamilton.ARP.haisley machine.Industrial Injection
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02-06-2013, 10:08 PM
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Name: bosshogg
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That would be a 531 unless its had a 619 swapped in its place.
I would recommend a call to columbus diesel supply, they will set you straight.
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02-08-2013, 03:20 PM
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Name: DISTURBED
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6030's had 619 engines in the except for one year were you could buy a naturally aspirated 531 which in all accounts was a 5020 with 6030 sheet metal
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02-08-2013, 04:04 PM
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Name: SuperSonic
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Actually, from the factory, Deere never built a 5010 5020 or 6030 with a 619, all were 531.
Now, that isn't to say that there aren't a bunch of those tractors out there with the 619.
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Sometimes I feel like giving up....then I remember I have a lot of motherfukkers to prove wrong.
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02-08-2013, 04:11 PM
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Name: Joesixpack
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X2 We've had a half dozen 6030's over the years and they were factory 531's.
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Basically stock if I would have built it at the factory.....
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02-08-2013, 06:11 PM
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Name: Meyers Farms
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02-08-2013, 07:14 PM
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Well I stand corrected. I was talking the other day to a Deere collector and that's what he told me. There aren't any around here so I had nothing to go off of. My bad
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02-09-2013, 07:38 AM
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Name: fox
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I am sure the first year it had a 619 cu. in. motor.
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02-09-2013, 03:22 PM
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Name: Meyers Farms
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Quote:
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I am sure the first year it had a 619 cu. in. motor.
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TractorData.com John Deere 6030 tractor engine information
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/vi...aska%20test%22
Tractor Data lists the tractor as only being offered with a 531, and Nebraska tested a 1972 model (the first year of production) and it too had a 531ci motor.
I'm not being a jerk, I'm just curious why you say that the first year they were offered with a 619?
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02-09-2013, 08:26 PM
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Name: fox
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Several tractor pullers were talking with one of my brothers and said it was one year with the 619. This made it ok in the rules to use the bigger motor with the 6030. As I was told.
Just thinking TD might be wrong.
Keep the post going and maybe a big Deere guy will answer.
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02-09-2013, 09:36 PM
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Name: bosshogg
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Parts books do not list a 619 block for the 6030 anywhere.
619 made its debut in the 8630 tractor. It got a bit of a makeover for the 50 series 4wds, then morphed into the 10.1L with electronic governor control P-Pump for 60 and 70 series 4wds
5020, 6030, and 7520 4wd tractors all had 531 blocks.
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02-10-2013, 07:17 PM
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Name: sootfoot
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I THOUGHT they first had the 619 NA, they then started putting the 531 turbo in the 6030 and the 531 NA in 5020.
Thats what I thought I read somewhere
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02-10-2013, 07:24 PM
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Name: Dane
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619 was never offered NA
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02-11-2013, 07:42 AM
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Name: bosshogg
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early 5020's had NA 531's, Later ones got Turbos, but no aftercooler
Early 6030's were all turbocharged, later ones got aftercooling. I think early ones are rated 130 hp and late ones are 175 factory. That doesnt sound like much but back in the day that was quite a bit of hp for a row crop tractor.
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02-19-2013, 11:02 PM
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Name: white99
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5010&5020 were never offered from the factory with a turbo b&w made a kit to bolt on
Question for anyone. A 6030-4840-4430 all had a inline pump..are they all pretty much the same as far as turning them up?
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02-20-2013, 12:39 PM
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Name: cumminspuller
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Quote:
Originally Posted by white99
5010&5020 were never offered from the factory with a turbo b&w made a kit to bolt on
Question for anyone. A 6030-4840-4430 all had a inline pump..are they all pretty much the same as far as turning them up?
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I don't know if they were all the same or not on how to turn up. The 6030 had a p-pump I believe and the 4430-4840 had A-pumps. They may be about the same. Never messed with turning a 6030 up though.
Early 6030's could come both turbo or non-turbo. Turbo was 175hp and the non was 145hp. There were less than 30 I think sold non-turbo'ed. 16 is the number that sticks out in my head on those. There is a 6030 collector in Indiana or Illinois that several of these models. I don't knowhow many are left though.
Chris
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02-20-2013, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
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Several tractor pullers were talking with one of my brothers and said it was one year with the 619. This made it ok in the rules to use the bigger motor with the 6030. As I was told.
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Most of the deere camp swears by this for this exact reason. Cheatin bastards.
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03-05-2013, 08:04 AM
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Name: Drake_Lawdawg
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6030's all had a P-pump aside from the NA version which had a roosa I believe but there were VERY few of them comparatively speaking (so did the 4840, 4850, 4955, and 4960 for the record). Brad Walk is the guy's name (the collector) and he's in Sigel, IL. The 6030 never came with a 619, no 2wd tractor ever did from deere...ever. The reason we can use a 619 block is b/c they don't make 531's anymore (they're everywhere though so I'm not sure why that's a rule) and they last longer in the pro-stock classes than a 531 b/c of the more HD block. A 619 crank will bolt right in to a 531 block as well so I'd look there to start, and get a bigger p-pump (they were only 11mm or 10mm from the factory) also, get a different charger, the stock one is a huge piece of crap.
Last edited by Drake_Lawdawg; 03-05-2013 at 08:11 AM.
Reason: not ALL had a p-pump
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