sleeveing (sp) - Competition Diesel.Com

Burner · 12-24-2006, 02:30 AM

How much does it cost to sleeve a 6.6, 6.0 and 5.9? What kinds of sleeves can you use?

AsTroSS · 12-24-2006, 04:13 AM

For 5.9 Cummins have special sleeves.

I have one set ,if you need pn or picture I can send it .

With sleeves you have to use standard pistons.

Burner · 12-24-2006, 09:21 AM

Thank you.

What do you think a cost to cut and press the sleves in would be? If you had the block out, how much would it cost to cut, purchase and press the sleves in the block.

joefarmer · 12-24-2006, 11:54 PM

About $438 for cutting, purchasing and sleeving 2 holes. You do not have to use standard pistons for sleeves, you can run oversize.

brnaodn.

Burner · 12-25-2006, 01:33 AM

Is this wet or dry?

joefarmer · 12-25-2006, 02:01 AM

If you're sleeving a cummins 5.9l, it would be a dry sleeve.

brandon.

AsTroSS · 12-25-2006, 04:10 AM

This info is from Cummins repair manual:

If more than 1.0 mm (0.03937in) diameter oversize bore is required, the block must be rebored and a repair sleeve installed.
The sleev bore must be refinished after installation to a 102.020+/- 0.020 mm diameter.
A standard diameter piston and a service piston ring set must be used.

Repair sleev part number ; 3904166

*Soup Nazi* · 12-25-2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsTroSS

This info is from Cummins repair manual:

If more than 1.0 mm (0.03937in) diameter oversize bore is required, the block must be rebored and a repair sleeve installed.
The sleev bore must be refinished after installation to a 102.020+/- 0.020 mm diameter.
A standard diameter piston and a service piston ring set must be used.

Repair sleev part number ; 3904166

This is true, but you can also bore and hone the sleeve after it is installed. Another .50 mm is fine.

*Billysgoat* · 12-26-2006, 07:24 PM

IRC the Cummins can be sleeved, the 7.3 cannot, the 6.0 cannot and not certain on the Dmax, but I would guess it would not be sleeveable.

The 7.3 and 6.0 are both considered "throwaway" motors, bore once and then chunk the block, leastways, that is what Ford reccomends.

Burner · 12-26-2006, 11:59 PM

..I wonder, can you sleeve a 7.3 or 6.0 down? Can you take it from a 7.3 to a 7.0 or something?

dieseldummy · 12-27-2006, 09:25 AM

I would guess that they can all be sleeved... For my old 6.5 it costs $80 a hole for labor and the sleeve. The only reason the others couldn't be done is if the cyl wall is to thin. I would think that isn't the case though.

*Billysgoat* · 12-27-2006, 08:30 PM

When Todd (blackandstacked) worked for the local Ford dealer as a diesel tech he was told that the 7.3 block was not a sleeveable block, if the motor required it you could bore it .030 (I think) one time, after that the block was to be considered junk and scrapped. Now that was according to Ford who wants to sell shortblocks, what you can do aftermarket might be a different story.

Burner · 12-30-2006, 01:32 AM

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12-24-2006, 02:30 AM	#1
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,393	sleeveing (sp) How much does it cost to sleeve a 6.6, 6.0 and 5.9? What kinds of sleeves can you use? __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

12-24-2006, 04:13 AM	#2
AsTroSS Name: AsTroSS Title: problems start @80 psi Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,327	For 5.9 Cummins have special sleeves. I have one set ,if you need pn or picture I can send it . With sleeves you have to use standard pistons. __________________ Ram 2500 '98 QC 12V Cummins 4x4 automatic --->project: T-25 Ram 1500 ‘ 97 QC 12V Cummins conversion 4x4 automatic - ->project: T-15 Superb '21 -TDI 2.0 CR-205hp

12-24-2006, 09:21 AM	#3
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,393	Thank you. What do you think a cost to cut and press the sleves in would be? If you had the block out, how much would it cost to cut, purchase and press the sleves in the block. __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

12-24-2006, 11:54 PM	#4
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	About $438 for cutting, purchasing and sleeving 2 holes. You do not have to use standard pistons for sleeves, you can run oversize. brnaodn. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

12-25-2006, 01:33 AM	#5
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,393	Is this wet or dry? __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

12-25-2006, 02:01 AM	#6
joefarmer Name: joefarmer Title: MR. Supreme Overlord Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,137	If you're sleeving a cummins 5.9l, it would be a dry sleeve. brandon. __________________ brandon'); DROP TABLE Users;-- 1948 Dodge 1.5t 12v RH swap \| 99 F250 12v RE test rkt \| 11 X5 'no soup' \| 08 F250 CR RE swap \| 05 2500 CR 68 standalone firepunk.com

12-25-2006, 04:10 AM	#7
AsTroSS Name: AsTroSS Title: problems start @80 psi Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,327	This info is from Cummins repair manual: If more than 1.0 mm (0.03937in) diameter oversize bore is required, the block must be rebored and a repair sleeve installed. The sleev bore must be refinished after installation to a 102.020+/- 0.020 mm diameter. A standard diameter piston and a service piston ring set must be used. Repair sleev part number ; 3904166 __________________ Ram 2500 '98 QC 12V Cummins 4x4 automatic --->project: T-25 Ram 1500 ‘ 97 QC 12V Cummins conversion 4x4 automatic - ->project: T-15 Superb '21 -TDI 2.0 CR-205hp

12-26-2006, 11:59 PM	#10
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,393	..I wonder, can you sleeve a 7.3 or 6.0 down? Can you take it from a 7.3 to a 7.0 or something? __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson

12-27-2006, 09:25 AM	#11
dieseldummy Name: dieseldummy Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: CO Member`s Gallery Posts: 51	I would guess that they can all be sleeved... For my old 6.5 it costs $80 a hole for labor and the sleeve. The only reason the others couldn't be done is if the cyl wall is to thin. I would think that isn't the case though. __________________ '01 GMC Dmax/ZF6, SBC SMF w/single ceramic disk FOR SALE '93 Chevy 6.2

12-30-2006, 01:32 AM	#13
Burner Name: Burner Title: slow poke Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,393	.......Greg, I have not seen you post here..............--> Why? __________________ The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson