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05-15-2018, 09:04 AM
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Name: BRE
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
Actually I couldn’t leave those stock either, bigger is always better.
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I’m gonna have to disagree there but...
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-15-2018, 09:52 AM
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#17282
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Originally Posted by BRE
I’m gonna have to disagree there but...
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I forgot Pete guys aren’t into women that much.
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-15-2018, 10:50 AM
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#17283
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Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
I forgot Pete guys aren’t into women that much.
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Dont lump us all in with rick. Pretty sure hes a closet kw guy anyway.
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05-15-2018, 11:02 AM
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#17284
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
I forgot Pete guys aren’t into women that much.
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Originally Posted by Rig Wrench
Dont lump us all in with rick. Pretty sure hes a closet kw guy anyway.
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The both of ya can phuck off! Lol
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-15-2018, 12:47 PM
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#17285
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Originally Posted by Rig Wrench
Dont lump us all in with rick. Pretty sure hes a closet kw guy anyway.
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It’s your lie tell it how you want but if I see a red oval and drop my wallet, I’m kicking it to a safe distance before I think about bending over to get it.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-15-2018, 02:30 PM
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Name: biggy238
Title: Too Much Time
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You guys know where I can get a chrome stamped peanut cover? Got a good customer asking for one
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'10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped
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05-15-2018, 02:53 PM
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#17287
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by biggy238
You guys know where I can get a chrome stamped peanut cover? Got a good customer asking for one
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Have to have yours chromed. FYI they’re powder coated so they have to bake and blast them first.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-15-2018, 05:15 PM
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#17288
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Name: Rig Wrench
Title: Wannabe Tech
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
It’s your lie tell it how you want but if I see a red oval and drop my wallet, I’m kicking it to a safe distance before I think about bending over to get it.
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If you drop your wallet and I'm around, you'll never get it back
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05-15-2018, 05:20 PM
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Name: chevota84
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Originally Posted by zfaylor
It would appear that way on the surface but as kyle was getting at it is an arbitrary number when comparing a given turbine and compressor. Two entirely different designs. Different blade count, architecture, conditions (temperature), etc. More times than not bearings aren't the issue. It is overspeed and/or lack of oil supply. That doesn't necessarily mean the engine isn't keeping up so much as orifices and internal metering isn't supplying enough.
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I get that, but we're using it to monitor a setup that's in use, not engineering a turbo from scratch. Since you rarely see under 1:1 at wot we should able to use that number as an estimate of overall effeciency even though it won't cover every eventuality. You've seen a lot more turbos than I ever will; when would a 2:1 setup be efficient and a 1:1 wouldn't be?
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05-15-2018, 09:08 PM
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Name: chevota84
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by chevota84
I get that, but we're using it to monitor a setup that's in use, not engineering a turbo from scratch. Since you rarely see under 1:1 at wot we should able to use that number as an estimate of overall effeciency even though it won't cover every eventuality. You've seen a lot more turbos than I ever will; when would a 2:1 setup be efficient and a 1:1 wouldn't be?
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That sounds dickish after I reread it and that's not what I intended lol.
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05-15-2018, 09:12 PM
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Name: biggy238
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by chevota84
I get that, but we're using it to monitor a setup that's in use, not engineering a turbo from scratch. Since you rarely see under 1:1 at wot we should able to use that number as an estimate of overall effeciency even though it won't cover every eventuality. You've seen a lot more turbos than I ever will; when would a 2:1 setup be efficient and a 1:1 wouldn't be?
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All I'm saying is who is actually doing to show that X setup is in peak efficiency at 1:1? It is (very well put) arbitrary.
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05-15-2018, 09:30 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Originally Posted by chevota84
That sounds dickish after I reread it and that's not what I intended lol.
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Yea calm your tit, we don’t allow that kind of attitude on here. Someone could get their feelings hurt and need to use Rig Wrench’s cry closet.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-15-2018, 09:31 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
Title: Douche Hunter
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Originally Posted by biggy238
All I'm saying is who is actually doing to show that X setup is in peak efficiency at 1:1? It is (very well put) arbitrary.
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All most people do is change wheels/housings and drive. Pressures change and temps change and you decide what works for you.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-16-2018, 01:22 AM
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Cause I’m bored...
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-16-2018, 05:34 AM
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Name: ISBand4BT
Title: Too Much Time
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Originally Posted by BRE
Cause I’m bored...
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I sure do love that truck!
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05-16-2018, 06:57 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by BRE
Cause I’m bored...
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Lol reefer life, bored but well rested.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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05-16-2018, 08:56 AM
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Name: zfaylor
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
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Originally Posted by chevota84
I get that, but we're using it to monitor a setup that's in use, not engineering a turbo from scratch. Since you rarely see under 1:1 at wot we should able to use that number as an estimate of overall effeciency even though it won't cover every eventuality. You've seen a lot more turbos than I ever will; when would a 2:1 setup be efficient and a 1:1 wouldn't be?
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It is honestly such an arbitrary number that it depends entirely on what you are doing, what wheels they are, what you are after with the truck, etc... For instance: Let's take an HX60 into account. In a scenario where the front side of the thrust is getting trashed consistently with 2:1 on an over the road application you want to get drive pressure down for pure reliability. Obviously the turbine forces are so far outweighing the compressor side that it is breaking through the oil film on the bearing and trashing it. The same turbo in a competition setting you WANT that high drive pressure in most cases to keep the thing lit at the end of the track. OR look at it this way: let's say that 2:1 drive is with a 3.4 turbine vs a 3.6. The 3.4 may not trash the thrust with 2:1 as opposed to a 3.6 as the 3.4 may apply less thrust load than the 3.6 with the same drive pressures. The next thing you have to think about and take into account is why the drive pressure is there. Is it because you are physically choking it with too small of a turbine side or is it because you are requiring so much shaft hp to maintain the demands of the compressor side (be it side or pressure or both) that it just takes that much drive pressure to achieve your goals?
Long story short: drive pressure is for tuning a setup if you know the parameters you are after. Past that don't worry about it unless you have either reliability issues or issues staying on top of the turbo.
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05-16-2018, 10:33 AM
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Name: BRE
Title: Too Much Time
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Lol reefer life, bored but well rested.
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Well rested... hilarious
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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05-16-2018, 11:32 AM
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Name: Rig Wrench
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Originally Posted by BRE
Well rested... hilarious
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Whete is that ? Side of a mountain? Underground?
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05-16-2018, 01:12 PM
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Name: BRE
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Whete is that ? Side of a mountain? Underground?
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Underground
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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