Moding a P3000 pump?? - Competition Diesel.Com

kuntryboy369 · 08-18-2009, 10:09 PM

i picked up a P3000 pump the other day (for free). i was wondering of i could mod it like a p7100? 13mm barrels and plungers, gov spring, fuel plate, ext...

or should i just scrap that idea, and do it right with a p7100??

bear with me yall, im still very green with all this p pump stuff.

*CTDYoungGun* · 08-18-2009, 10:25 PM

what is the 10 digit bosch number on it? i'll look it up at work and let ya know for sure, but if it's just an ag p3000 like most are then you can have 13's installed

roachie · 08-18-2009, 10:36 PM

Ive been told a P3000 aint too bad a pump.

kuntryboy369 · 08-18-2009, 10:38 PM

the two numbers on it are:

3926776LA

M092606073B

kuntryboy369 · 08-20-2009, 09:51 PM

so what can i do for the dv's, fuel plate, gsk, and all that fun stuff? are they interchangeable with the p7100 internals??

*CTDYoungGun* · 08-21-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuntryboy369

so what can i do for the dv's, fuel plate, gsk, and all that fun stuff? are they interchangeable with the p7100 internals??

I need the bosch number if you can find one on it...should be a 9 400 XXX XXX or a 0 402 XXX XXX

As for internals, anything pump body is different. They use a different style barrel and plunger, different dv holders, different dv's, etc. If it has an RQV governor then you should be able to do the same gsk and fuel plate mods, but I can't say for sure about the aneroid until I get a number or picture of it

kuntryboy369 · 08-28-2009, 11:06 AM

the plate is FUBAR. ill try to get some pics up for ya

carcrafter22 · 08-28-2009, 11:45 AM

If they can get 850cc out of an A pump I would imagine a P3000 should be able to flow some decent fuel

kuntryboy369 · 08-28-2009, 06:01 PM

but at what cost though? there is that saying, "you can build anyting, as long as you have the money." if i can get the same amount of fuel out of a p7100, at half the cost. then its obviously not worth doing.

kuntryboy369 · 08-31-2009, 08:08 PM

here she is. sorry for the wait yall.

*CTDYoungGun* · 08-31-2009, 11:47 PM

see if you can use paint remover to take the black paint off the bosch tag on the left of the pump in the pic...get the 10 digit number and i can tell you what parts are in it

*CTDYoungGun* · 08-31-2009, 11:49 PM

Also, it is the large pilot and large (30mm) cam correct? Just asking because most of the 2000 and 3000 series pumps use a smaller pilot and 25mm nose cam

DieselTweaker · 09-01-2009, 12:05 AM

Most "built" p pumps are 3000's, bigger camshaft to work with can get some good stuff there, but the 7100's seem to handle the higher RPM's better.

About the onlything that can interchange between the two are DV's and the gov's.

Also before you go doing anything with that pump make sure it's inspected, being a cummins recon pump I would say it has chromed plungers if so you need to get those out of there, they are junk!

Zach

AsTroSS · 09-01-2009, 09:16 AM

Can somebody identify my built 8.3 P-pump.

The govrnor was originally electronic, but it was repaced with automotive. I suspect it is P3000, because it visuallly little bit different than my P7100.

Here is some numbers from pump itself:

Bosch PN 4058316
*2 425 156 015
*Side of pump 24 40 03
*2 56 691 110/3B
*2 415 156 758 511413

kuntryboy369 · 09-01-2009, 10:53 AM

it looks like 0 402 036 762

KILLER 'B' · 09-01-2009, 11:59 AM

*CTDYoungGun* · 09-01-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsTroSS

Bosch PN 4058316

It came up on Bosch as:
0 402 736 838
PES6P120120A320RS7478

It should have 2 418 455 597 12mm b&p's in a 7400 series housing.
The dv part number is: 2 418 552 175

*CTDYoungGun* · 09-01-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuntryboy369

it looks like 0 402 036 762

Your pump came up a 3300 (3000 series) pump.

The model is a PES6P110A120RS3353, so it is a right-hand rotation cam, 11mm b&p's, in a 3300 series pump.

B&P Part number: 2 418 455 402
DV Part number: 2 418 552 159

You will want to pull a dv holder to be sure, but if the pump has 11mm b&p's then it would only be good as a core to send to a pump shop and have 13's installed.

AsTroSS · 09-01-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTDYoungGun

It came up on Bosch as:
0 402 736 838
PES6P120120A320RS7478

It should have 2 418 455 597 12mm b&p's in a 7400 series housing.
The dv part number is: 2 418 552 175

Thank You

But can you explain what the hell is 7400 series? How much is it different than regular 7100 (I knew it had originally electronic covernor)?

jackblack99 · 09-01-2009, 03:21 PM

hey CTDyounggun can you identify this pump? it only had one tag with 3 different sets of numbers.

14814508

9 400 231 106

PES6P110A720RS370

08-18-2009, 10:09 PM	#1
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	Moding a P3000 pump?? i picked up a P3000 pump the other day (for free). i was wondering of i could mod it like a p7100? 13mm barrels and plungers, gov spring, fuel plate, ext... or should i just scrap that idea, and do it right with a p7100?? bear with me yall, im still very green with all this p pump stuff. __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

08-18-2009, 10:25 PM	#2
CTDYoungGun Name: CTDYoungGun Title: Seth- Fuel Injection Guy Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas City, Mo Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,568	what is the 10 digit bosch number on it? i'll look it up at work and let ya know for sure, but if it's just an ag p3000 like most are then you can have 13's installed __________________ Seth Farrell Farrell Diesel Service 816-205-0757

08-18-2009, 10:36 PM	#3
roachie Name: roachie Title: Taco Master Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 11,133	Ive been told a P3000 aint too bad a pump. __________________ 99 F250____sold (to a ninja) 01 F250____Mexican F150 04 F350____Fat boy

08-18-2009, 10:38 PM	#4
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	the two numbers on it are: 3926776LA M092606073B __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

08-20-2009, 09:51 PM	#5
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	so what can i do for the dv's, fuel plate, gsk, and all that fun stuff? are they interchangeable with the p7100 internals?? __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

08-28-2009, 11:06 AM	#7
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	the plate is FUBAR. ill try to get some pics up for ya __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

08-28-2009, 11:45 AM	#8
carcrafter22 Name: carcrafter22 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burleson,Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,139	If they can get 850cc out of an A pump I would imagine a P3000 should be able to flow some decent fuel __________________ 2006 Chevy 2500HD 11.88@115mph 1967 Ford F100 isuzu 3.9L diesel Procharger, Holset and lots of fuel AWD chassis, etc. 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.9L isuzu 4bd1t, he351cw turbo,370cc injection pump, 4.5" clayton long arm lift,etc.

08-28-2009, 06:01 PM	#9
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	but at what cost though? there is that saying, "you can build anyting, as long as you have the money." if i can get the same amount of fuel out of a p7100, at half the cost. then its obviously not worth doing. __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

08-31-2009, 08:08 PM	#10
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	here she is. sorry for the wait yall. __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

08-31-2009, 11:47 PM	#11
CTDYoungGun Name: CTDYoungGun Title: Seth- Fuel Injection Guy Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas City, Mo Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,568	see if you can use paint remover to take the black paint off the bosch tag on the left of the pump in the pic...get the 10 digit number and i can tell you what parts are in it __________________ Seth Farrell Farrell Diesel Service 816-205-0757

08-31-2009, 11:49 PM	#12
CTDYoungGun Name: CTDYoungGun Title: Seth- Fuel Injection Guy Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas City, Mo Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,568	Also, it is the large pilot and large (30mm) cam correct? Just asking because most of the 2000 and 3000 series pumps use a smaller pilot and 25mm nose cam __________________ Seth Farrell Farrell Diesel Service 816-205-0757

09-01-2009, 12:05 AM	#13
DieselTweaker Name: DieselTweaker Title: No Box No bottle Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 466	Most "built" p pumps are 3000's, bigger camshaft to work with can get some good stuff there, but the 7100's seem to handle the higher RPM's better. About the onlything that can interchange between the two are DV's and the gov's. Also before you go doing anything with that pump make sure it's inspected, being a cummins recon pump I would say it has chromed plungers if so you need to get those out of there, they are junk! Zach __________________ 89 RED W250 LE P-Pump, Output Shaft MIA

09-01-2009, 09:16 AM	#14
AsTroSS Name: AsTroSS Title: problems start @80 psi Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,327	Can somebody identify my built 8.3 P-pump. The govrnor was originally electronic, but it was repaced with automotive. I suspect it is P3000, because it visuallly little bit different than my P7100. Here is some numbers from pump itself: Bosch PN 4058316 2 425 156 015 Side of pump 24 40 03 2 56 691 110/3B 2 415 156 758 511413 __________________ Ram 2500 '98 QC 12V Cummins 4x4 automatic --->project: T-25 Ram 1500 ‘ 97 QC 12V Cummins conversion 4x4 automatic - ->project: T-15 Superb '21 -TDI 2.0 CR-205hp

09-01-2009, 10:53 AM	#15
kuntryboy369 Name: kuntryboy369 Title: "That Guy" Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Albany, OH Member`s Gallery Posts: 381	it looks like 0 402 036 762 __________________ 2002 \| Dodge \| Under Construction 2009 \| Jetta \| TDI

09-01-2009, 11:59 AM	#16
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09-01-2009, 03:21 PM	#20
jackblack99 Name: jackblack99 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,813	hey CTDyounggun can you identify this pump? it only had one tag with 3 different sets of numbers. 14814508 9 400 231 106 PES6P110A720RS370 __________________ 03 RCLB Lb7 6spd.