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wagoneer · 11-21-2012, 10:09 AM

I will use filter from jgsturbo(Drive Pressure Particle Trap). Good piece for the price.

BramanteCummins · 11-21-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSkyRacing

Not a standard 64 yet, but I do have a custom Fleece Performance billet 63mm 431 on a customer's truck working like a charm.

whats the specs of turbine on that? curious on how it runs, mine is a 64 on both turbine and compressor. hoping it wont surge. what is he doing for hp and boost as well?

BlackSkyRacing · 11-22-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BramanteCummins

whats the specs of turbine on that? curious on how it runs, mine is a 64 on both turbine and compressor. hoping it wont surge. what is he doing for hp and boost as well?

Did you get to physically measure yours yet? A 64mm turbine will be a new one on our list of different sizes... His is a 12 blade 67mm exducer turbine (76mm inducer), like I said, I am working on getting 67mm 10 blades made. There is room in even the 60mm turbine 400 series housings to machine them to 67mm.

With the previously mentioned sweet spot for full open stop adjusted on his turbo he sees right around 45psi of boost... As for horsepower, we have not strapped it to a dyno yet, but she sure does hook good

She shakedown run Clayton, WI - YouTube

BramanteCummins · 11-22-2012, 06:00 PM

definately keep me posted on that 67 turbine, any idea what could be stuffed in the compressor? if i could turn it to fit a 66ish with the 67 turbine that could be a sweet charger.

I havent gotten mine in just yet, i should see it either tomorrow or saturday though. ill post measurements when i take it apart though.

BramanteCummins · 11-22-2012, 06:08 PM

better yet, whats the shaft size and do you know what the shaft is on the 451?

BlackSkyRacing · 11-22-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BramanteCummins

better yet, whats the shaft size and do you know what the shaft is on the 451?

As in for the bore of the compressor wheel? Same as stock HX35s - 7mm

There are 66mm cast wheels available, but IMHO it's a bit much for said 7mm shaft. 64 is about all the more I would go personally. We went with the billet 63mm from fleece because it has made over 750hp and has proven reliable.

BramanteCummins · 11-24-2012, 10:50 AM

i feel like my drive pressures are going to be through the roof if i push it that far, ill find out in a few months i suppose.
and good to know, ill measure mine just to be sure. is there anything special about the fleece wheels? 750 seems like a big number for the size compressor

BlackSkyRacing · 11-24-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BramanteCummins

i feel like my drive pressures are going to be through the roof if i push it that far, ill find out in a few months i suppose.
and good to know, ill measure mine just to be sure. is there anything special about the fleece wheels? 750 seems like a big number for the size compressor

They take full advantage of the length of shaft available and don't have a big flat pad under the nut blocking air... Really you have to see one in person to see why they flow so good. Drive pressure would likely be an issue with a VGT due to the lack of a gate. The puller I built will have a steed speed with a gate before the end of next season so we have room to grow with a better pump and more rpm.

Josh Dellingers FPE Built 2.5 Truck Lays down 771rwhp/1794rwtq - YouTube

They also have a Duramax running 785hp with the same compressor on a Garret Cheeta turbo.

BramanteCummins · 11-25-2012, 10:13 AM

i was going to ask if itll be an upgrade to even the 64 wheel but id need a new housing for that... im just gonna run what i got and hope for the best!

BlackSkyRacing · 11-25-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BramanteCummins

i was going to ask if itll be an upgrade to even the 64 wheel but id need a new housing for that... im just gonna run what i got and hope for the best!

I don't think they were pushing the limits of the stock 64 at 658rwhp... drive pressure more then likely yes since it was on a 6.7, but I think there's enough air for 700hp there. When you get it you'll notice the wheel is what Holset refers to as Machined From Solid (MFS) or in other words it's factory billet

Thekid760 · 11-25-2012, 12:32 PM

Yes, MFS Holset OEM billet.

Mine is 64/67/VGT I had fleece machine it for my holset wheel and rebuild it. BlackSkyRacing has been very helpful, I owe him more than a few beers.

I'll be running his setup, I haven't built it yet though. Wastegate run on boost, linear actuator for EB and a full open stop.

I cant wait to see what she'll do and see if I can push the limits of it with some larger injectors later.

BramanteCummins · 11-26-2012, 10:19 AM

how do your drive pressures look running on boost?

BramanteCummins · 11-26-2012, 10:24 AM

just caught that detail lol
im in the same boat, cant wait to see what itll do!

BramanteCummins · 11-26-2012, 02:00 PM

just got it in, way cleaner than what i thought it was gonna be

AsTroSS · 11-26-2012, 02:22 PM

I would like to buy Fleece 12V controlle and test it.

BramanteCummins · 11-26-2012, 09:28 PM

took it apart tonight... its a 66... he400ve i have one big charger

BlackSkyRacing · 11-26-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BramanteCummins

took it apart tonight... its a 66... he400ve i have one big charger

Which end? Compressor or turbine? Pics would be helpful.

BramanteCummins · 11-27-2012, 05:25 AM

ill grab pictures tonight of the verniers on it, i got 66 compressor and 71 turbine

BramanteCummins · 11-27-2012, 05:27 AM

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BlackSkyRacing · 11-27-2012, 07:37 AM

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ill grab pictures tonight of the verniers on it, i got 66 compressor and 71 turbine

Yes, pictures with the Verniers would be great... If this 66/71 is true, you have found a new holy grail

11-21-2012, 10:09 AM	#21
wagoneer Name: wagoneer Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe,Estonia Member`s Gallery Posts: 346	I will use filter from jgsturbo(Drive Pressure Particle Trap). Good piece for the price. __________________ 97´dodge ram 2500 12V 5x18/he451ve/s475/5K governor /ATS ex.manifold/ 4" ex.system/30* timing/HD valve springs/pushrods/P-pump tuned up(800cc)/AFC mods/O-ringed block/DTT 3 disk TC/DTT valvebody/Billet input and output = melted pistons on the 1mile top speed competition

11-22-2012, 06:00 PM	#24
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	definately keep me posted on that 67 turbine, any idea what could be stuffed in the compressor? if i could turn it to fit a 66ish with the 67 turbine that could be a sweet charger. I havent gotten mine in just yet, i should see it either tomorrow or saturday though. ill post measurements when i take it apart though. __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-22-2012, 06:08 PM	#25
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	better yet, whats the shaft size and do you know what the shaft is on the 451? __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-24-2012, 10:50 AM	#27
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	i feel like my drive pressures are going to be through the roof if i push it that far, ill find out in a few months i suppose. and good to know, ill measure mine just to be sure. is there anything special about the fleece wheels? 750 seems like a big number for the size compressor __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-25-2012, 10:13 AM	#29
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	i was going to ask if itll be an upgrade to even the 64 wheel but id need a new housing for that... im just gonna run what i got and hope for the best! __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-25-2012, 12:32 PM	#31
Thekid760 Name: Thekid760 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 475	Yes, MFS Holset OEM billet. Mine is 64/67/VGT I had fleece machine it for my holset wheel and rebuild it. BlackSkyRacing has been very helpful, I owe him more than a few beers. I'll be running his setup, I haven't built it yet though. Wastegate run on boost, linear actuator for EB and a full open stop. I cant wait to see what she'll do and see if I can push the limits of it with some larger injectors later. __________________ 95 3500 4x4 5spd 4.10 Last edited by Thekid760; 11-25-2012 at 12:33 PM.

11-26-2012, 10:19 AM	#32
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	how do your drive pressures look running on boost? __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-26-2012, 10:24 AM	#33
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	just caught that detail lol im in the same boat, cant wait to see what itll do! __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-26-2012, 02:22 PM	#35
AsTroSS Name: AsTroSS Title: problems start @80 psi Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Europe Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,327	I would like to buy Fleece 12V controlle and test it. __________________ Ram 2500 '98 QC 12V Cummins 4x4 automatic --->project: T-25 Ram 1500 ‘ 97 QC 12V Cummins conversion 4x4 automatic - ->project: T-15 Superb '21 -TDI 2.0 CR-205hp

11-26-2012, 09:28 PM	#36
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	took it apart tonight... its a 66... he400ve i have one big charger __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-27-2012, 05:25 AM	#38
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	ill grab pictures tonight of the verniers on it, i got 66 compressor and 71 turbine __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.

11-27-2012, 05:27 AM	#39
BramanteCummins Name: BramanteCummins Title: ADD maniac Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2012 Member`s Gallery Posts: 636	uploadfromtaptalk1354015591808.jpg uploadfromtaptalk1354015624870.jpg __________________ '94 12v 4x4 RCLG - no idea where this build is going anymore, too many WICKED COOL ideas.... GAME ON.