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10-29-2020, 11:12 AM
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Name: Empty_Pockets
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Originally Posted by bigstacks95
How positive of this are you or is it hear say?
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Wondering the same thing. I just looked at two new Longhorns last week along with a king ranch. I Cant make up my mind worth a ****. I know both have the cp4, but at least with the cummins i can throw a cp3 on when out of warranty
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10-29-2020, 12:13 PM
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Name: zachu812
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Originally Posted by bigstacks95
How positive of this are you or is it hear say?
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I've seen test trucks with CP3's on them, something is in the works.
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10-29-2020, 05:05 PM
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Name: JWhite
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Originally Posted by zachu812
I've seen test trucks with CP3's on them, something is in the works.
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I'm going to assume that you don't work for Cummins, so unless you don't value your buddies job I'd keep my mouth shut
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10-29-2020, 06:59 PM
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Name: RD TRCTR
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Originally Posted by zachu812
You an FCA guy? There’s a lot of other stuff going on behind the scenes but yea the CP4 wasn’t a great move.
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Been there, done that, moved along, still drink beers with guys on the program.
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seriously...so I got one of those bastard fking yrs of something again..fack..I already have the 02..now the 20 gonna be the same thing...fml I swear
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 , yes. The cash cow for the aftermarket won't be theirs to slaughter.
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How positive of this are you or is it hear say?
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I am positive. See above. Also, Bosch is an a$$hole supplier. They tell their customers what they need, no conversation. What's crazy is that Bosch has denied that a CP3 will push 30ksi rail, which all of us in the aftermarket and tuning know it will do...
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10-29-2020, 07:02 PM
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Name: RD TRCTR
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Originally Posted by JWhite
I'm going to assume that you don't work for Cummins, so unless you don't value your buddies job I'd keep my mouth shut
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Eh, I wouldn't go that far. The CP4 failures and the failures due to the use of 15w40 are too well known. He's not dropping names, he and whomever he knows will be ok. Now if they shoot a youtube video... they won't be.
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10-29-2020, 11:11 PM
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Name: Empty_Pockets
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and the failures due to the use of 15w40 are too well known.
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Did i miss something? Are they having engine failures due to running 15w40?
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10-30-2020, 12:58 AM
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Name: zachu812
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Originally Posted by JWhite
I'm going to assume that you don't work for Cummins, so unless you don't value your buddies job I'd keep my mouth shut
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No buddies at Cummins. If you live around Metro Detroit and keep an ear to the ground you can find out what’s in the works, test vehicles are all over.
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10-30-2020, 12:31 PM
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Name: Timbeaux
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Is this the first Ram with a CP4?
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10-30-2020, 12:58 PM
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Name: dieselbeef
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I think the 19 had it also...
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10-30-2020, 04:22 PM
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Name: Smoken Gun
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All 5th gens use the CP4 iirc. Also, in addition to the Allison rumors, I've been hearing rumors of HD Rams getting a ZF 8-speed PowerLine transmission for months. https://moparinsiders.com/zfs-new-po...s-diesel-rams/
Either way I hope the new transmission Ram chooses is tuneable, unlike the Aisin AS69RC.
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10-30-2020, 07:38 PM
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Name: RD TRCTR
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Originally Posted by Empty_Pockets
Did i miss something? Are they having engine failures due to running 15w40?
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Yes, owners are pouring in the wrong blend and engine failures are happening. FCA is making the owners eat it as well...
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All 5th gens use the CP4 iirc. Also, in addition to the Allison rumors, I've been hearing rumors of HD Rams getting a ZF 8-speed PowerLine transmission for months. https://moparinsiders.com/zfs-new-po...s-diesel-rams/
Either way I hope the new transmission Ram chooses is tuneable, unlike the Aisin AS69RC. |
The 6.4 gas trucks now have the zed-eff 8 speed. If that's any kind of indicator... Any news trans will replace the 68RFE. The Aisin will be around for quite some time.
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10-30-2020, 08:47 PM
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Name: Tobin
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P Pump it.
Sorry...had to.
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10-30-2020, 08:48 PM
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Name: biggy238
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Originally Posted by RD TRCTR
Yes, owners are pouring in the wrong blend and engine failures are happening. FCA is making the owners eat it as well...
The 6.4 gas trucks now have the zed-eff 8 speed. If that's any kind of indicator... Any news trans will replace the 68RFE. The Aisin will be around for quite some time.
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What type of failures?
One of the manufacturers I sell stated outright that their additive manufacturer could not fill orders, to run the conventional 15W40.
I don't think I've seen anything saying it can't be run, just lowered economy and shorter change intervals.
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10-31-2020, 12:10 AM
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Name: Smoken Gun
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The Aisin will be around for quite some time.
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Do you ever see the Aisin being tuneable or is that a lost cause people should just give up on?
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10-31-2020, 07:47 AM
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Name: TheBac
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Dmax trucks have been running CP4s for 10 years. Yes, when they fail they usually take out the whole fuel system. But there are CP3 kits available for retrofit if need be. Im sure someone in the aftermarket will make a kit for Cummins too.
Gary, just enjoy your new truck.
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10-31-2020, 07:58 AM
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Name: J-Pipes
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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10-31-2020, 08:16 AM
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Name: Empty_Pockets
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Already some companies making cp3 swap kits for the Cummins.
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11-02-2020, 06:51 AM
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Name: RD TRCTR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggy238
What type of failures?
One of the manufacturers I sell stated outright that their additive manufacturer could not fill orders, to run the conventional 15W40.
I don't think I've seen anything saying it can't be run, just lowered economy and shorter change intervals.
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Burnt crank bearings and lifter rollers/ cam lobe surfaces are what I am aware of. The tolerances for the main bearings were decreased is my understanding.
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Do you ever see the Aisin being tuneable or is that a lost cause people should just give up on?
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IDK honestly. I don't know anything about the Aisin controllers. My assumption is that the Aisin controller has already been interrogated by an AlienTech or DimSport. Unless it can't be... If it has been, the binary was probably not able to be interpreted/ reverse engineered. Keep in mind, this is the hard way of doing it. Most "tuners" are lazy and want a binary, elf, ram map, s19 and/ or a2l file from the inside to make their job easier. There probably aren't any engineers at Aisin that are interested in performance or their job is worth more to them than giving the files up.
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Dmax trucks have been running CP4s for 10 years. Yes, when they fail they usually take out the whole fuel system. But there are CP3 kits available for retrofit if need be. Im sure someone in the aftermarket will make a kit for Cummins too.
Gary, just enjoy your new truck.
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Already exist, I think S&S offers it.
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11-02-2020, 08:26 AM
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Name: dieselbeef
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P Pump it.
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