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mtboggs · 11-18-2014, 10:54 AM

I am getting a 96 5spd and the owner told me that it had a dual disc south bend but when I test drove it I could tell that it defiantly didn't have a dual disc. Is there any way to tell what clutch it has in it by taking the cover off and looking at it?

K204DR · 11-18-2014, 11:15 AM

No way to see without yanking the trans

golfersmith · 11-18-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by K204DR

No way to see without yanking the trans

My SB DD has a thick aluminum spacer between the starter and bell housing as the ring gear is repositioned with the DD flywheel. Came with longer starter bolts also.

mtboggs · 11-18-2014, 03:53 PM

Ok so if it has a heavy single there aren't any numbers stamped in it I would be able to see through the inspection cover?

*zfaylor* · 11-18-2014, 03:54 PM

Did it rattle at all when you pushed the clutch pedal in?

PSUCE · 11-18-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mtboggs

Ok so if it has a heavy single there aren't any numbers stamped in it I would be able to see through the inspection cover?

Maybe my brain is tired, but what inspection cover? How could you "tell" it's not a twin disc?

K204DR · 11-18-2014, 09:34 PM

My 13" conversion has a spacer

12valvetater · 11-19-2014, 08:13 AM

My double doesn't have a spacer.

*zfaylor* · 11-19-2014, 08:17 AM

One big thing to remember is aftermarket upgrades rarely if ever add much value to a truck. If the guy is trying to put a premium price on something based on what clutch it has he is a little lost on how the used truck game really works.

mtboggs · 12-02-2014, 08:49 AM

sorry it took so long to reply back been busy. I did get the truck, the clutch does not rattle when pushed in that's why I questioned it I know south bend makes a quiet dual disk but I've never heard one so I don't know how quiet they are, what has me puzzled is that it acts like the dual disk that my dad has in his dmax just without the rattle. I also noticed that the clutch doesn't do much till the pedal is almost all the way out.

golfersmith · 12-02-2014, 12:12 PM

Sounds just like my SBDD. No rattle at all and almost too much travel.

hjoey · 12-02-2014, 12:33 PM

Sounds like a few I've seen^

RED_SLED · 12-02-2014, 05:24 PM

even the dampened floater plates some southbend clutches have rattle, but just not as loud.

Shainer · 12-02-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mtboggs

sorry it took so long to reply back been busy. I did get the truck, the clutch does not rattle when pushed in that's why I questioned it I know south bend makes a quiet dual disk but I've never heard one so I don't know how quiet they are, what has me puzzled is that it acts like the dual disk that my dad has in his dmax just without the rattle. I also noticed that the clutch doesn't do much till the pedal is almost all the way out.

I've seen them run anywhere from dead quiet, to a full on nasty rattle. Valair and SB both make a silent version now, and depending on engine harmonics it may be quiet. Run it till you break it, then you will know for sure. Maybe you can get a receipt for the clutch???

95cummins5.9 · 12-02-2014, 07:56 PM

If he bought it directly from SB, they will have a record of the purchase, call them.

golfersmith · 12-02-2014, 09:04 PM

I think mine is broken in. 40k plus miles on it.

mtboggs · 12-03-2014, 08:46 AM

Ok thanks. And it's kinda a screwy deal he claims that his buddy did everything and he just paid for it so I don't have high hopes that t is a dual disk I'm just trying to figure out what it is before I do stuff to it so I don't smoke the clutch.

11-18-2014, 10:54 AM	#1
mtboggs Name: mtboggs Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Warsaw, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 102	clutch question I am getting a 96 5spd and the owner told me that it had a dual disc south bend but when I test drove it I could tell that it defiantly didn't have a dual disc. Is there any way to tell what clutch it has in it by taking the cover off and looking at it?

11-18-2014, 11:15 AM	#2
K204DR Name: K204DR Title: I'm the Driver Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 971	No way to see without yanking the trans __________________ 88 Chevy crewcab 6bt nv4500 valair clutch

11-18-2014, 03:54 PM	#5
zfaylor Name: zfaylor Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: P-TOWN!, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,024	Did it rattle at all when you pushed the clutch pedal in? __________________ 2015 half ton heavy chevy 81 Fairmont LS project Many yard ornament projects... North American Turbo

11-18-2014, 09:34 PM	#7
K204DR Name: K204DR Title: I'm the Driver Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 971	My 13" conversion has a spacer __________________ 88 Chevy crewcab 6bt nv4500 valair clutch

11-19-2014, 08:13 AM	#8
12valvetater Name: 12valvetater Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Thomas, PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 464	My double doesn't have a spacer. __________________ 97 12 valve 4x4 NV She ain't pretty but she puts out

11-18-2014, 03:53 PM	#4
mtboggs Name: mtboggs Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Warsaw, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 102	Ok so if it has a heavy single there aren't any numbers stamped in it I would be able to see through the inspection cover?

11-19-2014, 08:17 AM	#9
zfaylor Name: zfaylor Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: P-TOWN!, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,024	One big thing to remember is aftermarket upgrades rarely if ever add much value to a truck. If the guy is trying to put a premium price on something based on what clutch it has he is a little lost on how the used truck game really works. __________________ 2015 half ton heavy chevy 81 Fairmont LS project Many yard ornament projects... North American Turbo

12-02-2014, 08:49 AM	#10
mtboggs Name: mtboggs Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Warsaw, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 102	sorry it took so long to reply back been busy. I did get the truck, the clutch does not rattle when pushed in that's why I questioned it I know south bend makes a quiet dual disk but I've never heard one so I don't know how quiet they are, what has me puzzled is that it acts like the dual disk that my dad has in his dmax just without the rattle. I also noticed that the clutch doesn't do much till the pedal is almost all the way out.

12-02-2014, 12:12 PM	#11
golfersmith Name: golfersmith Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 611	Sounds just like my SBDD. No rattle at all and almost too much travel. __________________ Sold the '96. We're a one car family for now.

12-02-2014, 12:33 PM	#12
hjoey Name: hjoey Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2014 Member`s Gallery Posts: 560	Sounds like a few I've seen^

12-02-2014, 05:24 PM	#13
RED_SLED Name: RED_SLED Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2013 Member`s Gallery Posts: 210	even the dampened floater plates some southbend clutches have rattle, but just not as loud. __________________ 1995 Dodge 3500 12 valve 4x4. Balanced rotating assembly, Dragon fly pump, Bullseye s467, DFI 5x16s, Haisley DVs, 4k gsk, Hamilton 188/208 cam, pushrods, 165lb springs, locks and retainers, S&B intake, ARPs, snow w/m, DPS manifold, FASS 220, South Bend DD

12-02-2014, 07:56 PM	#15
95cummins5.9 Name: 95cummins5.9 Title: Old man *** gossiper Status: Here Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: U.S.A Member`s Gallery Posts:** 4,720	If he bought it directly from SB, they will have a record of the purchase, call them.

12-02-2014, 09:04 PM	#16
golfersmith Name: golfersmith Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 611	I think mine is broken in. 40k plus miles on it. __________________ Sold the '96. We're a one car family for now.

12-03-2014, 08:46 AM	#17
mtboggs Name: mtboggs Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Warsaw, Indiana Member`s Gallery Posts: 102	Ok thanks. And it's kinda a screwy deal he claims that his buddy did everything and he just paid for it so I don't have high hopes that t is a dual disk I'm just trying to figure out what it is before I do stuff to it so I don't smoke the clutch.