Hamilton cam test - Page 2 - Competition Diesel.Com

*Jeff2* · 11-18-2011, 08:24 PM

The results are as follows peak horsepower was 831 on the stock cam due to a little blip, the horse power on the Hamilton was 815 but much smoother. The torque gain was huge 1558 to 1755. The upper end was better by 80 to 100 ft lbs. I will be leaving this one in!

YOUNG GUNS15 · 11-18-2011, 08:28 PM

16 fewer ponies and 198 more ft lbs? i'll take that.... lol

DOUBLE NICKEL · 11-18-2011, 08:29 PM

Awesome!

Bersaglieri · 11-18-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUNG GUNS15

16 fewer ponies and 198 more ft lbs? i'll take that.... lol

Oh yea! Any chance we can see some graphs Jeff? Possibly overlay to show area under the curve?

Seems to me area under the curve is where these things shine on the dyno.

-Dustin-

97rada · 11-18-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff2

The results are as follows peak horsepower was 831 on the stock cam due to a little blip, the horse power on the Hamilton was 815 but much smoother. The torque gain was huge 1558 to 1755. The upper end was better by 80 to 100 ft lbs. I will be leaving this one in!

will you also be adding a tooth to the cam to see what it does?

Big Swole · 11-19-2011, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 97rada

will you also be adding a tooth to the cam to see what it does?

This was just a straight up test..

I'm more than sure Jeff / Rick will now start playing a bit...To get max benefit from it..

But that extra TQ is bad A$$!

I really really wanted to try this cam in my truck for spool and drivability... :/

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 02:47 PM

Heard that Jeff made a few changes and was able to get even more hp out of the Hamilton cam on Sat... I beleive it will be higher hp than the 831, yet the tq numbers stayed higher as well. ( Rick couldn't remember the exact totals )

I'll try to get pics of the graphs when I can...

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 03:23 PM

Couple of Sat. Runs... Hamilton cam...red line is after some fuel tweeking I beleive..

Jeffs not here and Amy and I were having to search through all the runs..

Look at the tq #'s out there at just over 3000 rpm's... Wow!

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 03:26 PM

This shows the stock cam in the mix..

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 03:31 PM

Same graph's but using the "Smoothing" feature to take out the peaks.

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 03:32 PM

If this isn't a reason to buy one of the 188/220's, I don't know what is!!

WUnderwood · 11-21-2011, 03:37 PM

Was this done on a 12 valve David? Just curious.

Those are great, real world numbers, can't beat that at all.

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 03:50 PM

Yup. Jeff's 12v race truck...

HightechRedneck · 11-21-2011, 04:41 PM

Doidge, I know your thinking the same thing i am...

Swole, I might need to talk to you too if you still have your charger set up

Jeff I need to talk to ya sometime after Thanksgiving about possibly getting something started with my ohio truck... the converter was ordered and terry is making it shortly

Just wondering when a convenient day or time to call ya is about making some future plans?

thanks again
Dustin Fletcher

Big Swole · 11-21-2011, 04:53 PM

I still have he twins..

Joesixpack · 11-21-2011, 06:14 PM

Well I'm totally digging that open wedge the red line has going in the upper RPMS.

Got Smoke? · 11-22-2011, 07:30 PM

I'll definately be purchasing a 188/220 when funds allow.

Big Swole · 11-22-2011, 08:29 PM

Rick sent me a couple more graphs...

1939dodge · 12-09-2011, 11:36 AM

Great info and test, I have been looking at buying a new cam. I guess the question I have is this was in his race truck, what would that do in a more tame truck? I am looking to have good towing, fuel economy and some power. So would the stage 2 or the stage 3 be better?

I will have 60# springs, 4K GSK, port matched honed exhaust, twins (stock with something like a HX60) slightly larger injectors...

Thanks in advance, sorry for a slight hyjack I am newer on this forum and it will not let me PM yeat and it seems like the people who know their stuff are here talking about the cam I am looking at.

1939dodge · 12-09-2011, 09:29 PM

You know best, I just figured I may as well do it now while I have the entire engine apart and on a stand. I do not have a big budget so skipping the cam would help on that.

11-18-2011, 08:24 PM	#21
Jeff2 Name: Jeff2 Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Member`s Gallery Posts: 407	The results are as follows peak horsepower was 831 on the stock cam due to a little blip, the horse power on the Hamilton was 815 but much smoother. The torque gain was huge 1558 to 1755. The upper end was better by 80 to 100 ft lbs. I will be leaving this one in! __________________ DO SOMETHING SMART!

11-18-2011, 08:28 PM	#22
YOUNG GUNS15 Name: YOUNG GUNS15 Title: Im AWESOME!!!! Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Utah Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,346	16 fewer ponies and 198 more ft lbs? i'll take that.... lol __________________ Spence -1994 4x4 12 valve 13mm, single 475 748/1292 Fuel 872/1470 N2O -2005 4x4 12 valve CCSB 3rd gen '12-rail' 280hp

11-18-2011, 08:29 PM	#23
DOUBLE NICKEL Name: DOUBLE NICKEL Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pflugerville, Tx and North Dakota Member`s Gallery Posts: 509	Awesome! __________________ 2003 2500 QCSB 4x4 auto 2011 3500 6.7 4x4 auto DRW (Company Truck) 1995 3500 12V SC DRW 2wd 5spd. Old trucks- 2006 LBZ Dmax CC SB 4x4 2004.5 3500 SC DRW 4x4 6spd. 2004.5 2500 QCSB Laramie 4x4 Auto 1996 2500 12V Ext Cab 2wd auto

11-21-2011, 03:23 PM	#28
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Couple of Sat. Runs... Hamilton cam...red line is after some fuel tweeking I beleive.. Jeffs not here and Amy and I were having to search through all the runs.. Look at the tq #'s out there at just over 3000 rpm's... Wow! __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

11-21-2011, 03:26 PM	#29
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	This shows the stock cam in the mix.. __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

11-21-2011, 02:47 PM	#27
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Heard that Jeff made a few changes and was able to get even more hp out of the Hamilton cam on Sat... I beleive it will be higher hp than the 831, yet the tq numbers stayed higher as well. ( Rick couldn't remember the exact totals ) I'll try to get pics of the graphs when I can...

11-21-2011, 03:31 PM	#30
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Same graph's but using the "Smoothing" feature to take out the peaks. __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

11-21-2011, 03:32 PM	#31
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	If this isn't a reason to buy one of the 188/220's, I don't know what is!!

11-21-2011, 03:37 PM	#32
WUnderwood Name: WUnderwood Title: CompD Minion Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,418	Was this done on a 12 valve David? Just curious. Those are great, real world numbers, can't beat that at all. __________________ 2011 Ford F-150 Lariat 4X4 RIP BFD99, jponder, and Forrest Nearing

11-21-2011, 03:50 PM	#33
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Yup. Jeff's 12v race truck...

11-21-2011, 04:41 PM	#34
HightechRedneck Name: HightechRedneck Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	Doidge, I know your thinking the same thing i am... Swole, I might need to talk to you too if you still have your charger set up Jeff I need to talk to ya sometime after Thanksgiving about possibly getting something started with my ohio truck... the converter was ordered and terry is making it shortly Just wondering when a convenient day or time to call ya is about making some future plans? thanks again Dustin Fletcher __________________ Dustin Bagged 00 Jetta big turbo TDI - DRTY DZL Bagged 03 Jetta Wagon TDI - DALY DZL 07 Dodge Ram Dually 12v swapped g56 - HULN DZL ISSPRO GAUGES, XS BATTERY DÜRTY DZL PERFORMANCE

11-21-2011, 04:53 PM	#35
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	I still have he twins.. __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

11-21-2011, 06:14 PM	#36
Joesixpack Name: Joesixpack Title: Pull'n it. Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,118	Well I'm totally digging that open wedge the red line has going in the upper RPMS. __________________ Basically stock if I would have built it at the factory.....

11-22-2011, 07:30 PM	#37
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	I'll definately be purchasing a 188/220 when funds allow. __________________ Mark 2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II. 1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater. 2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods

11-22-2011, 08:29 PM	#38
Big Swole Name: Big Swole Title: MegaInterceptor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,950	Rick sent me a couple more graphs... __________________ -HIS -2017 991.2 Turbo S GT Silver w/ Bordeaux Red / Black -2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE - 6MT - Sharkskin Metallic -2006 Honda S2000 - SOS Supercharged - 397 whp - Silverstone Metallic -2016 RAM 2500 MegaCab Diesel - Silver (Tuned) -HERS -2019 718 Boxster S - Miami Blue 6MT, Cobb Tune, Soul, Ohlins, -2014 958.1 Cayenne S - Umber Metallic / Luxor Beige -2013 Honda Civic S.i.Coupe - 6MT

12-09-2011, 11:36 AM	#39
1939dodge Name: 1939dodge Title: Still Learning Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Beaverton Oregon Member`s Gallery Posts: 115	Great info and test, I have been looking at buying a new cam. I guess the question I have is this was in his race truck, what would that do in a more tame truck? I am looking to have good towing, fuel economy and some power. So would the stage 2 or the stage 3 be better? I will have 60# springs, 4K GSK, port matched honed exhaust, twins (stock with something like a HX60) slightly larger injectors... Thanks in advance, sorry for a slight hyjack I am newer on this forum and it will not let me PM yeat and it seems like the people who know their stuff are here talking about the cam I am looking at.

12-09-2011, 09:29 PM	#40
1939dodge Name: 1939dodge Title: Still Learning Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Beaverton Oregon Member`s Gallery Posts: 115	You know best, I just figured I may as well do it now while I have the entire engine apart and on a stand. I do not have a big budget so skipping the cam would help on that.