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Sandaholic · 12-08-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 9724VF350

$500 buys you seats, valves, guides, springs, seals, retainers, locks, porting, finish machining and assembly.

Not sure what to make of that.

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Originally Posted by lenahan05

lol. someones got their thinking cap on.

Meaning what, it's too cheap?

Howling · 12-08-2012, 04:10 PM

I would say so.

HightechRedneck · 12-08-2012, 04:33 PM

Or maybe they would rather sell a complete head instead of a bare one. That way it's their design only type deal. Look at the names of parts they put in it. I just think the bare one is priced higher than a complete one. Doesn't make a lot of sense to do that but there has to be some reasoning behind it unless they don't use the brands they posted except for the 4k and up 2 heads.

The 4k one looks to be worth it but I wouldn't buy till numbers are out and seeing a needed improvement over comparable advances for same cash. Weight would be nice but what flow can be had for 4k. I just wait

9724VF350 · 12-08-2012, 05:49 PM

Could very well be, just thought it was worth pointing out.

Be interesting to see how the steel sleeve threaded in the aluminum head works out for long term street use.

RacinDuallie · 12-08-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyLegs

I have soiled myself now.......

Charger · 12-08-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandaholic

Meaning what, it's too cheap?

It could also prevent a landslide of screwups,. mistakes,bad pr, and come backs

slowgo · 12-08-2012, 06:21 PM

the parts listed on the website are used for all the heads

As far as flow all I will say is it will out flow the competitions by 18% with light porting.

you have to remember the head is not cast as a stock 12 head. We have moved the intake port to balance and increase flow every cyl is matched ...not close to the same.. exactly the same.

Lostnwalmart · 12-08-2012, 06:22 PM

With the screw in insert will you need injectors with out the ball to guide them? Or will it be idiot proof

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*lenahan05* · 12-08-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slowgo

the parts listed on the website are used for all the heads

As far as flow all I will say is it will out flow the competitions by 18% with light porting.

you have to remember the head is not cast as a stock 12 head. We have moved the intake port to balance and increase flow every cyl is matched ...not close to the same.. exactly the same.

i understand what your saying. ive done porting on this cast stuff for years. i looked it over very well. yes it looks good. very good honestly. but what is the head your comparing to? im assuming you flowed on a superflow 600 if i was to guess. good stock cast ported heads with an 1.870 intake valves and standard 4.020 bore will flow 200-220cfm depending on casting. if you dont want to post numbers...thats fine. just pick a head you compared to and i will know what your talking about. others on here will not. brezenski? nyes? zzfab? hamilton? theres a big difference in these four. or better yet... just sell me one monday.

slowgo · 12-08-2012, 06:39 PM

the insert has 6 index slots for the ball . It will be close but you will need to adj bottom washer thickness to get the right index

DirtyMaxx03 · 12-08-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by slowgo

As far as flow all I will say is it will out flow the competitions by 18% with light porting.

my cyinder head will outflow it by 18%

*lenahan05* · 12-08-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyMaxx03

my cyinder head will outflow it by 18%

ohh boy.....this guna turn into a "whos got more cfm thread"? i hope you were joking....

DirtyMaxx03 · 12-08-2012, 07:40 PM

i was indeed lol

slowgo · 12-08-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lenahan05

ohh boy.....this guna turn into a "whos got more cfm thread"? i hope you were joking....

ok 18.01...lol

HightechRedneck · 12-08-2012, 08:38 PM

Sam, how long have you been running this head? Just on the drag truck or on street trucks too? Then when you say competitors will you pm me specifics? Im putting together my engine right now and was going to start ordering valve train and start porting but would rather try something new. Can you let any light on the dual spring set up pictured or the valve covers?

Thanks!!!

Edit- is there going to be any issues with the materials not working with each other like the GM 2.2-2.4 heads and spark plugs that they had? The metal with aluminum and heat do not seem to ever work out correctly.

slowgo · 12-08-2012, 08:55 PM

as of now it has only been on the engine dyno in the alt. fuel setup. we are looking to start the diesel testing in the next two weeks.

I can't let ant light on the springs but what would you like to know about the valve covers?

some other points about the head are the water flow through the head has been increased 30% and the the seats have full flow 360 deg around them

HightechRedneck · 12-08-2012, 11:44 PM

Pricing on them. It looks to be two different styles. A two into one cover and a three into one cover. Do you have any pics of them also. Would they fix on a stock casting head? Breathers?

I think that's everything on them right now off hand.

Thanks

*Blacksdieselhp* · 12-09-2012, 10:49 AM

any plans for 24 head? Im ready for one now.

Phooker · 12-09-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacksdieselhp

any plans for 24 head? Im ready for one now.

Not that I know of Ashley...I think it's ready for you to come back to the dark side.

Ben46a · 12-09-2012, 11:33 AM

An LSM aluminum block and this head would make a nice little drag race package.

12-08-2012, 04:10 PM	#42
Howling Name: Howling Title: Soot Sniffer Status: Not Here Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern,IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,304	I would say so. __________________ Eric 2006 Dodge CTD/48re 4x4 Sport With some fuel and air. Bullseye,Hamilton,Exergy,EFI,ATS,FASS,HTS,Thuren, Toyo's... 1996 2500 RC 4x4 CTD-63/68/.83,5X.014,180 maxed Ppump,Fass...

12-08-2012, 04:33 PM	#43
HightechRedneck Name: HightechRedneck Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	Or maybe they would rather sell a complete head instead of a bare one. That way it's their design only type deal. Look at the names of parts they put in it. I just think the bare one is priced higher than a complete one. Doesn't make a lot of sense to do that but there has to be some reasoning behind it unless they don't use the brands they posted except for the 4k and up 2 heads. The 4k one looks to be worth it but I wouldn't buy till numbers are out and seeing a needed improvement over comparable advances for same cash. Weight would be nice but what flow can be had for 4k. I just wait __________________ Dustin Bagged 00 Jetta big turbo TDI - DRTY DZL Bagged 03 Jetta Wagon TDI - DALY DZL 07 Dodge Ram Dually 12v swapped g56 - HULN DZL ISSPRO GAUGES, XS BATTERY DÜRTY DZL PERFORMANCE

12-08-2012, 05:49 PM	#44
9724VF350 Name: 9724VF350 Title: Tractor Guy Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,784	Could very well be, just thought it was worth pointing out. Be interesting to see how the steel sleeve threaded in the aluminum head works out for long term street use. __________________ 97 F350 4X4 CC Dually 5spd 24V 913 S300/HT3B Ranch Hand. Playtoy-Oliver 1655. 12V now, 13mm, S475 Wife's ride-03 Excursion 12V swap in the works.

12-08-2012, 06:21 PM	#47
slowgo Name: slowgo Title: Hey man Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	the parts listed on the website are used for all the heads As far as flow all I will say is it will out flow the competitions by 18% with light porting. you have to remember the head is not cast as a stock 12 head. We have moved the intake port to balance and increase flow every cyl is matched ...not close to the same.. exactly the same. __________________ Carolina Diesel Performance 864-710-1032

12-08-2012, 06:39 PM	#50
slowgo Name: slowgo Title: Hey man Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	the insert has 6 index slots for the ball . It will be close but you will need to adj bottom washer thickness to get the right index __________________ Carolina Diesel Performance 864-710-1032

12-08-2012, 07:40 PM	#53
DirtyMaxx03 Name: DirtyMaxx03 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,862	i was indeed lol __________________ Sean Stock 2005 LLY

12-08-2012, 08:38 PM	#55
HightechRedneck Name: HightechRedneck Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	Sam, how long have you been running this head? Just on the drag truck or on street trucks too? Then when you say competitors will you pm me specifics? Im putting together my engine right now and was going to start ordering valve train and start porting but would rather try something new. Can you let any light on the dual spring set up pictured or the valve covers? Thanks!!! Edit- is there going to be any issues with the materials not working with each other like the GM 2.2-2.4 heads and spark plugs that they had? The metal with aluminum and heat do not seem to ever work out correctly. __________________ Dustin Bagged 00 Jetta big turbo TDI - DRTY DZL Bagged 03 Jetta Wagon TDI - DALY DZL 07 Dodge Ram Dually 12v swapped g56 - HULN DZL ISSPRO GAUGES, XS BATTERY DÜRTY DZL PERFORMANCE Last edited by HightechRedneck; 12-08-2012 at 08:40 PM.

12-08-2012, 08:55 PM	#56
slowgo Name: slowgo Title: Hey man Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Member`s Gallery Posts: 225	as of now it has only been on the engine dyno in the alt. fuel setup. we are looking to start the diesel testing in the next two weeks. I can't let ant light on the springs but what would you like to know about the valve covers? some other points about the head are the water flow through the head has been increased 30% and the the seats have full flow 360 deg around them __________________ Carolina Diesel Performance 864-710-1032

12-08-2012, 11:44 PM	#57
HightechRedneck Name: HightechRedneck Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,753	Pricing on them. It looks to be two different styles. A two into one cover and a three into one cover. Do you have any pics of them also. Would they fix on a stock casting head? Breathers? I think that's everything on them right now off hand. Thanks __________________ Dustin Bagged 00 Jetta big turbo TDI - DRTY DZL Bagged 03 Jetta Wagon TDI - DALY DZL 07 Dodge Ram Dually 12v swapped g56 - HULN DZL ISSPRO GAUGES, XS BATTERY DÜRTY DZL PERFORMANCE

12-09-2012, 10:49 AM	#58
Blacksdieselhp Name: Blacksdieselhp Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,569	any plans for 24 head? Im ready for one now. __________________ http://blacksdieselperformance.net/ Crate Engines, Transmissions, Turbos, Tuning, Fueling, Exhaust, Etc Direct Dealer for Borg Warner Turbos

12-09-2012, 11:33 AM	#60
Ben46a Name: Ben46a Title: Puller wannabe Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Waverley, NS Member`s Gallery Posts: 813	An LSM aluminum block and this head would make a nice little drag race package. __________________ 2008 Ram RCLB 2500 4x4,6.7, 3850 SBCDD, 3.42, II 85% cp3, 75/83/1.0, 2nd gen PDI manifold, torker 150 hp inj, ADII 165, Hellman Sump, A1 H11 studs, Smarty TNT, BHAF, Hellman intercooler, passenger diesel intake system and grid delete.