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getonit21904 · 08-09-2010, 06:19 PM

Save your time and money and avoid South Bend doubles and triples. I've gone thru 2 DD and 1triple before I finally switched to a Haisley weighted double. All the difference in the world. It will actually go into gear without any troubles now, it will shift at any RPM and holds great. I was a die hard South Bend user until I finally got tired of waisting my time and money. Even called South Bend and talked to Ansul. He asked me a couple of questions about the truck and then finally said, " I don't know what to tell you man". Awesome customer service. Glad they stand behind their product. Enterprise Engine even told me that they have to rework the clutches once they get them so they actually shift better. That's sad.

apocalypse1812 · 08-09-2010, 06:25 PM

Yeah, Im pretty glad I went with valair for my 6.7 instead of SB. i hooked once with my SB DD on my 12 valve, and now it slips...

hopefully i can sell some guns to get a weighted haisley for my 12 valve soon...

BgBlDodge · 08-09-2010, 06:31 PM

never owned a SBC but have installed several and have a lot of friends with them and have driven anything from their ofe to their triple. All have their quirks but all have been through stupid amounts of abuse and still run just fine.

not enoughsmoke · 08-09-2010, 06:32 PM

Well already been down that road went through SB DD now I run a kennys triple and love it

Got Smoke? · 08-09-2010, 07:03 PM

That's funny I've had a SBC DD in my 97 for SEVERAL years when it was still a daily driver weekend warrior. I put thousands of miles on my clutch without hardly any problems. My 97 has been a full time puller now for almost 2 years and my SBC is still holding great! Peter & Mansil are awesome people to deal with and DO stand behind their product, but guess what EVERY MAN MADE PRODUCT HAS ISSUES!

Dual disc clutches last depending on how you drive them and if you go out there and try and pull 5th gear every time or do 3rd gear burnouts every other day like some people do and tear the total chit outta clutches that's not the clutch companies fault. I've heard bad things said about EEP's, Valair's, SBC's, Kenny's all of them...they ALL have quirks none of them are perfect but I've had great luck with SBC and will continue to stand by them!

SPEAKSUP · 08-09-2010, 07:21 PM

Ran a SBC DD in my old one. With no problems it's all a matter of how you drive it. Caue they will work with you. IDK what to tell you while your eating up clutches. I know plenty that run them without problems.

Dodgentwo · 08-09-2010, 07:32 PM

We have SBC in two of out trucks with absolutely no complaints. And they have amazing customer service.

I had one clutch break, most likely due to install error and Peter replaced it and even upgraded it for me. And another instance, I got ripped off by a douche on this site on a clutch. It had NOTHING to do with Peter in any way. I called peter to order a clutch since the one I got was not what I was told. Peter sold me a brand new Con OF for what I paid for the used piece of junk I received.

Not sure about you but that sounds like pretty damn good customer service to me??????

And I can pull up MANY threads about people having the same problems with every other clutch made. Maybe your problem is operator error...

Travis

Atchley · 08-09-2010, 07:40 PM

I've never had a problem with my SB DD. It's held up under multiple boosted 4wd launches.

SPEAKSUP · 08-09-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Atchley

I've never had a problem with my SB DD. It's held up under multiple boosted 4wd launches.

Don't trust this hoodrat

Got Smoke? · 08-09-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgentwo

We have SBC in two of out trucks with absolutely no complaints. And they have amazing customer service.

I had one clutch break, most likely due to install error and Peter replaced it and even upgraded it for me. And another instance, I got ripped off by a douche on this site on a clutch. It had NOTHING to do with Peter in any way. I called peter to order a clutch since the one I got was not what I was told. Peter sold me a brand new Con OF for what I paid for the used piece of junk I received.

Not sure about you but that sounds like pretty damn good customer service to me??????

And I can pull up MANY threads about people having the same problems with every other clutch made. Maybe your problem is operator error...

Travis

There's a reason my truck wears the stickers it does!

Dodgentwo · 08-09-2010, 07:45 PM

I guess I just dont understand these people who say they have so many issues? I have delt with them on several occasions and know many people who SB has gone above and beyond for.

And I am by no means easy on my clutch's

Got Smoke? · 08-09-2010, 07:51 PM

I feel like pic whoring tonight....so here's another because I love my SBC DD!

haloman · 08-09-2010, 07:58 PM

Wow! Maybe your motto of " Run it like you stole it" as something to do it with. The guys at SBC are standup guys. Any piece of equipment can be abused beyond its limits, nothing is perfect.

blackbetty62 · 08-09-2010, 08:01 PM

love my SBC. customer service was good the little bit i needed them, but haven't needed much help at all.

Dodgentwo · 08-09-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by haloman

Wow! Maybe your motto of " Run it like you stole it" as something to do it with.

I was gonna say the same thing

GCarlton53 · 08-09-2010, 08:11 PM

Had an SB DD in an 05 dodge and Loved it! Hauled big loads with a TST and Bully dog stack and had to make it slip to get the glaze off! IT was the best.

brickner11 · 08-09-2010, 08:12 PM

i absolutely hate southbend. i went to the double kennys 4000 big difference. the southbend didnt last at all and pulled once. and the customer service suck. never will buy one again

blackbetty62 · 08-09-2010, 08:21 PM

the clutches that dont last do you slip them alot, try pulling in to high of gear, i can't imagine they just go junk under normal circumstances.

Dodgentwo · 08-09-2010, 08:35 PM

Like I said.....operator error....

MegaCabRam · 08-09-2010, 10:42 PM

Mine was great, if I buy another they'll be getting my business, peter has always been great to us. We hung out with some guys from south bend a couple years ago at our hotel in indy, I'm pretty sure it was Mansil, one of the funniest guys iv ever met, or at least he was that night lol

08-09-2010, 06:19 PM	#1
getonit21904 Name: getonit21904 Title: Run it like you stole it! Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2009 Location: Elkton, MD Member`s Gallery Posts: 52	South Bend Sucks Save your time and money and avoid South Bend doubles and triples. I've gone thru 2 DD and 1triple before I finally switched to a Haisley weighted double. All the difference in the world. It will actually go into gear without any troubles now, it will shift at any RPM and holds great. I was a die hard South Bend user until I finally got tired of waisting my time and money. Even called South Bend and talked to Ansul. He asked me a couple of questions about the truck and then finally said, " I don't know what to tell you man". Awesome customer service. Glad they stand behind their product. Enterprise Engine even told me that they have to rework the clutches once they get them so they actually shift better. That's sad.

08-09-2010, 06:31 PM	#3
BgBlDodge Name: BgBlDodge Title: Hates hippies Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buda, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 16,647	never owned a SBC but have installed several and have a lot of friends with them and have driven anything from their ofe to their triple. All have their quirks but all have been through stupid amounts of abuse and still run just fine. __________________ 2003 Nissan 350z Touring 6mt 2000 4runner Limited Tyler Williams We have become educated beyond our intelligence. -Jerry Clower

08-09-2010, 06:32 PM	#4
not enoughsmoke Name: not enoughsmoke Title: floatin in tha gulf Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: tenn Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,730	Well already been down that road went through SB DD now I run a kennys triple and love it __________________ 1995 F350 Powerstroke 1995 F350 Fummins 1995 F250 lightning clone 1968 Fastback GT 2003 F150 1994 F350 IDIT 1988 F350 IDIT 2003 Dodge 2500 1999 F250 Powerstroke 1993 F250 Fummins 1979 F350

08-09-2010, 07:03 PM	#5
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	That's funny I've had a SBC DD in my 97 for SEVERAL years when it was still a daily driver weekend warrior. I put thousands of miles on my clutch without hardly any problems. My 97 has been a full time puller now for almost 2 years and my SBC is still holding great! Peter & Mansil are awesome people to deal with and DO stand behind their product, but guess what EVERY MAN MADE PRODUCT HAS ISSUES! Dual disc clutches last depending on how you drive them and if you go out there and try and pull 5th gear every time or do 3rd gear burnouts every other day like some people do and tear the total chit outta clutches that's not the clutch companies fault. I've heard bad things said about EEP's, Valair's, SBC's, Kenny's all of them...they ALL have quirks none of them are perfect but I've had great luck with SBC and will continue to stand by them! __________________ Mark 2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II. 1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater. 2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods

08-09-2010, 07:21 PM	#6
SPEAKSUP Name: SPEAKSUP Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,340	Ran a SBC DD in my old one. With no problems it's all a matter of how you drive it. Caue they will work with you. IDK what to tell you while your eating up clutches. I know plenty that run them without problems. __________________ The warrior guided by the spirit serve humanity.. The warrior without, serves the ego.

08-09-2010, 06:25 PM	#2
apocalypse1812 Name: apocalypse1812 Title: Nailed It! Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Odessa, Tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 6,180	Yeah, Im pretty glad I went with valair for my 6.7 instead of SB. i hooked once with my SB DD on my 12 valve, and now it slips... hopefully i can sell some guns to get a weighted haisley for my 12 valve soon...

08-09-2010, 07:32 PM	#7
Dodgentwo Name: Dodgentwo Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bremen, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,701	We have SBC in two of out trucks with absolutely no complaints. And they have amazing customer service. I had one clutch break, most likely due to install error and Peter replaced it and even upgraded it for me. And another instance, I got ripped off by a douche on this site on a clutch. It had NOTHING to do with Peter in any way. I called peter to order a clutch since the one I got was not what I was told. Peter sold me a brand new Con OF for what I paid for the used piece of junk I received. Not sure about you but that sounds like pretty damn good customer service to me?????? And I can pull up MANY threads about people having the same problems with every other clutch made. Maybe your problem is operator error... Travis __________________ 2005 White Dodge 3500 DRW 6-speed 2003 Blue Dodge 3500 SRW 6-speed 3 '97 5-speeds with a few mods

08-09-2010, 07:40 PM	#8
Atchley Name: Atchley Title: Holler dweller Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Tn Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,775	I've never had a problem with my SB DD. It's held up under multiple boosted 4wd launches. __________________ Jesse 15 F250 95 twelb valb

08-09-2010, 07:45 PM	#11
Dodgentwo Name: Dodgentwo Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bremen, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,701	I guess I just dont understand these people who say they have so many issues? I have delt with them on several occasions and know many people who SB has gone above and beyond for. And I am by no means easy on my clutch's __________________ 2005 White Dodge 3500 DRW 6-speed 2003 Blue Dodge 3500 SRW 6-speed 3 '97 5-speeds with a few mods

08-09-2010, 07:51 PM	#12
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	I feel like pic whoring tonight....so here's another because I love my SBC DD! __________________ Mark 2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II. 1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater. 2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods

08-09-2010, 07:58 PM	#13
haloman Name: haloman Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2007 Member`s Gallery Posts: 7,876	Wow! Maybe your motto of " Run it like you stole it" as something to do it with. The guys at SBC are standup guys. Any piece of equipment can be abused beyond its limits, nothing is perfect.

08-09-2010, 08:01 PM	#14
blackbetty62 Name: blackbetty62 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 326	love my SBC. customer service was good the little bit i needed them, but haven't needed much help at all. __________________ 2007 dodge

08-09-2010, 08:11 PM	#16
GCarlton53 Name: GCarlton53 Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zolfo Springs, Florida Member`s Gallery Posts: 71	Had an SB DD in an 05 dodge and Loved it! Hauled big loads with a TST and Bully dog stack and had to make it slip to get the glaze off! IT was the best.

08-09-2010, 08:12 PM	#17
brickner11 Name: brickner11 Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2010 Member`s Gallery Posts: 70	i absolutely hate southbend. i went to the double kennys 4000 big difference. the southbend didnt last at all and pulled once. and the customer service suck. never will buy one again

08-09-2010, 08:21 PM	#18
blackbetty62 Name: blackbetty62 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2008 Member`s Gallery Posts: 326	the clutches that dont last do you slip them alot, try pulling in to high of gear, i can't imagine they just go junk under normal circumstances. __________________ 2007 dodge

08-09-2010, 08:35 PM	#19
Dodgentwo Name: Dodgentwo Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bremen, Ohio Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,701	Like I said.....operator error.... __________________ 2005 White Dodge 3500 DRW 6-speed 2003 Blue Dodge 3500 SRW 6-speed 3 '97 5-speeds with a few mods

08-09-2010, 10:42 PM	#20
MegaCabRam Name: MegaCabRam Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Usa Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,241	Mine was great, if I buy another they'll be getting my business, peter has always been great to us. We hung out with some guys from south bend a couple years ago at our hotel in indy, I'm pretty sure it was Mansil, one of the funniest guys iv ever met, or at least he was that night lol