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Old 04-05-2015, 04:48 PM   #1
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Fun pulling tractor build

Pulled a 12v from a 97 ram 2500. Unfortunately found out the pump is no good. The motor will be going into a massey harris 55 tractor for using at our antique tractor pulls. Nothing too crazy. Needing some parts and constantly searching. Might be a slow build. Haven't done much for fab work and building. Here's the start. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1428266804.557046.jpg
Just a shot of motor over the tractor.

Going to need to figure out how to make a clutch setup with a output shaft.

I have been given a crowerglide triple disc clutch that bolts to a big block hemi crank so the pattern doesn't match. Was contemplating machining a stock cummins flywheel and swapping it out for the back of the crowerglide aluminum flywheel. Will get some pics of clutch up right away.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:22 PM   #2
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Got a long way to go! We put an 05 common rail into a Cockshutt 570...man what a puller that is!
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:23 PM   #3
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Sounds like a cool build.....but it's that 190 that gets my oil flowing. I love anything Alice chalmers. I'm looking for a wd45 to restore and use for pulling.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:13 PM   #4
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Fun pulling tractor build

Ya should be pretty good when finished. My dad is working on a massey 55 with a 471. It's just about done.


lol there's a nice wd45 that pulls in our antique stock but don't pull worth a crap. My massey 30 is usually top of that class fighting it out with a oliver super 66 row crop.

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Old 04-08-2015, 05:38 PM   #5
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Interested in ideas on clutching. Second guessing using the crowerglide. What clutch reccomendations are there? Would a stock clutch hold? There's a massive amount of reduction in the tractor rear but still lots of torque.
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Old 04-08-2015, 08:12 PM   #6
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It will take at least a 2 disc to hold if you go much over stock.
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:53 PM   #7
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Do I need a new flywheel or can I use a stock one without modification? Also I have a 1.375 shaft I would like to use rather purchase another.
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Old 04-09-2015, 12:39 PM   #8
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One more point not sure on clutch size in the old tractor but with a stock clutch that's 60 years old it will lift the front end in the air at slow speed. I know it's not anywhere the hp but that's a lot of pressure on the clutch I would think.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:32 PM   #9
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I dont know how many gears you'r tractor has , but the Cummins with a little tweaking , you will be able to pull in 5 th gear if it is a 6 speed , or in 6 th or 7 th gear if it is an 8 speed.
If it is a light class, you will be trying road gear and a single disc won't take it
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:35 PM   #10
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I'm jealous! We have a couple 44s that I've always wanted to do an engine swap in.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:40 PM   #11
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The 55 has 4 gears. Weight of my tractor will be in the 7000 range.

I've got a 44 special an that was gonna be my mod build. I bought a 79' gmc 1 ton Dually with a 350 an sm465. Was gonna drop that motor trans straight into my 44 special until my dad decided to drop a 471 into a massey 55. I must not loose to the old man. Lol the 44 swap will get done one day. You can use the yolk right off the muncie an get the cross bearing and other half yolk that slips right onto the massey trans shaft. Super easy.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:43 PM   #12
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I might pickup a nv4500 bell an get a machine shop to make a plate for the back to hold a bearing and candlestick and input shaft. Then would need a clutch setup to fit my 1 3/8 shaft.

I'm not sure the crowerglide will work. I want to be able to slip a bit and lite the turbo so she don't fall on its face.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:01 PM   #13
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This is a 5.9 out of a first gen. we did in 08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eL3GBDr0Rs



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n246Qnsasq4


Here is a WHITE we put an 8.3 CUMMINS in


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWvupgK5hKM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph5T...jk4iIxUyY0dY1Q

Here she is today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66W2...jk4iIxUyY0dY1Q
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:15 PM   #14
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That's awesome what did you have done to the 5.9?
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The 5.9 had a set of injectors .
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The 5.9 had a set of injectors .
Was it still sporting the VE? Or was it p-pump'd?
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The 5.9 had a set of injectors .

What size injectors? Stock charger? What clutch were you running?
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:05 PM   #18
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Was it still sporting the VE? Or was it p-pump'd?
VE pump
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:07 PM   #19
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What size injectors? Stock charger? What clutch were you running?
100 horse , stock charger , double disc
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:27 PM   #20
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Is that an 880?
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