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09-10-2018, 09:41 AM
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Name: biggy238
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A little rooftop AC repair.
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09-10-2018, 10:06 AM
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Name: RockinRam96
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09-10-2018, 10:37 AM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
The dyno gave false readings on doodles run because it takes gear ratio into account and become part of its calulation, so when a parameter is changed on the truck and not in dyno software it gives higher numbers.
Truck engine dyno test are done by hold truck at 55-60mph and then load is slowly increased, for a dyno day this would be stupidly time consuming.
Your theory is busted when the current HP per discplacent record at Antrim’s was done with 4.17 gears...
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Dynos dont care about gear ratio, they measure their own roller speed and braking torque and calculate power from that.
There is still rotational inertia forces with 4.17 gears, just not that much than faster gears.
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09-10-2018, 10:45 AM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by i-r-truckdriver
If I understand correctly, A-class is too much competition and B-class isn't enough? Why don't you enter b-class to show the world how superior vulva is?
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I wanted to do something I havent already done and my "sponsor" said A-class or nothing but we thought they must still use original type fuel system.
Not going to spend 6500 euros for shipping normal working truck there and back to compete in class no one is interested.
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09-10-2018, 10:49 AM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
Don't your super powerful euro trucks already have common rail? This shouldn't be an issue especially with your super euro tuners. Anyone converting to common rail are doing it on "old dinosaur" US engines so you should be walking in with the advantage. So pony up or shut up.
These are new trucks that are identical to the ones with the euro engines. a 2012 with a Maxxforce or a Paccar are the same trucks as the ones with a Cummins however the cummins powered truck always brings more money.
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New trucks have commonrails, too expensive to buy one and build as a useless hobby truck.
Cummins brings more money because truckers are still idiots. Maxxforce is **** anyway. Buy trucks with Volvo engines.
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09-10-2018, 11:42 AM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
Dynos dont care about gear ratio, they measure their own roller speed and braking torque and calculate power from that.
There is still rotational inertia forces with 4.17 gears, just not that much than faster gears.
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Bull****, the people that have seen the the programming for the Taylor dyno say other wise, but since you own one you know all of course.
Swear you are getting dumber by the day.
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09-10-2018, 11:52 AM
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#18347
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by SmokinCAT
Bull****, the people that have seen the the programming for the Taylor dyno say other wise, but since you own one you know all of course.
Swear you are getting dumber by the day.
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All dynos are same.
Why is it that only heavy dynos (in USA) use that pull down test ? Cars, pick-ups, engine dynos always accelerate, free or controlled, or do steady state at different points.
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09-10-2018, 11:54 AM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by i-r-truckdriver
If I understand correctly, A-class is too much competition and B-class isn't enough? Why don't you enter b-class to show the world how superior vulva is?
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Volvo is not allowed, limit is 16 litres and Volvo is 16,1 , and if I race with working truck, it will be modern truck and that means commonrail, commonrail is not allowed in B-class.
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09-10-2018, 01:07 PM
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Name: Signature600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
All dynos are same.
Why is it that only heavy dynos (in USA) use that pull down test ? Cars, pick-ups, engine dynos always accelerate, free or controlled, or do steady state at different points.
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No, not all dynamometers are the same. I have not seem very many engine dynos accelerate....Most I've ever seen are pull down. I use Pull down for testing tractors. The only thing that accelerates are the smaller chassis dynos...and in most cases there the drums outweigh the vehicle using the dyno.
You keep on being wrong...
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09-10-2018, 01:45 PM
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Name: Leiffi
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Originally Posted by Signature600
No, not all dynamometers are the same. I have not seem very many engine dynos accelerate....Most I've ever seen are pull down. I use Pull down for testing tractors. The only thing that accelerates are the smaller chassis dynos...and in most cases there the drums outweigh the vehicle using the dyno.
You keep on being wrong...
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All dynos with brake are the same, torque transducer and roller speed is all you need to get horsepower numbers. Dont even need engine rpm, you only need it to get engine torque.
Inertia dynos calculate from roller mass and speed/acceleration rate.
You dyno tractors at steady rpm, just start from high rpm, isnt that what you said earlier ?
Dyno Pulls Pro Mod Engine Test Rage Fuel Systems Drag Racing Video - YouTube
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09-10-2018, 01:56 PM
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Name: Signature600
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Originally Posted by Leiffi
All dynos with brake are the same, torque transducer and roller speed is all you need to get horsepower numbers. Dont even need engine rpm, you only need it to get engine torque.
Inertia dynos calculate from roller mass and speed/acceleration rate.
You dyno tractors at steady rpm, just start from high rpm, isnt that what you said earlier ?
Dyno Pulls Pro Mod Engine Test Rage Fuel Systems Drag Racing Video - YouTube
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Start at high RPM and pull down to rated RPM. We don't accelerate...
You said "All dynos are the same"
You didn't specify, you made a broad statement.
Chris
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09-10-2018, 02:01 PM
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Name: Leiffi
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You have seen this before, my Volvo dynoed on ancient dyno from 80s, manual control, operator said he could get big numbers if he pulled the engine down quicker between steps, you can see numbers jump when engine is pulled down, but those are not counted, only steady rpm numbers are.
Controlled acceleration gives little bit lower numbers than steady rpm and way lower than pull down. So, my Volvos 880 wheel hp measures in acceleration would equal like 1200 american dyno day pull down hp ? Depend where load % is set, whatever that even means.
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09-10-2018, 06:22 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Originally Posted by Leiffi
You have seen this before, my Volvo dynoed on ancient dyno from 80s, manual control, operator said he could get big numbers if he pulled the engine down quicker between steps, you can see numbers jump when engine is pulled down, but those are not counted, only steady rpm numbers are.
Controlled acceleration gives little bit lower numbers than steady rpm and way lower than pull down. So, my Volvos 880 wheel hp measures in acceleration would equal like 1200 american dyno day pull down hp ? Depend where load % is set, whatever that even means.
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Float that POS over here and let’s see.
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Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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09-10-2018, 07:26 PM
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Name: SmokinCAT
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Can you imagine how long it would take to dyno that many trucks if they started at 25% old and worked up to 75%?
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09-10-2018, 09:39 PM
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Name: BRE
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If I started a new thread, would anyone be willing to go over there, or do you think the mouth breather would follow?
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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09-10-2018, 10:26 PM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leiffi
I wanted to do something I havent already done and my "sponsor" said A-class or nothing but we thought they must still use original type fuel system.
Not going to spend 6500 euros for shipping normal working truck there and back to compete in class no one is interested.
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Sponsor? You can’t take a normal “working truck” and maybe add some fuel and air on your own? Turbos and super euro tuning costs that much? I mean it’s the baddest of the bad engines on the planet right? It shouldn’t need anything to compete with the US made stuff. And when you wax everyone at the race you can easily sell it for 4 times what you have in it I’m sure. So you will only have shipping one way.
Hey you could bring that bad arse truck over here and work for that trucking company you said was going to take over the US.
If you want to do something you have never done try pulling your head out of your arse. You routinely show how stupid you are in Tall Boy’s thread.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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09-11-2018, 07:58 AM
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#18357
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Name: KTAPETERBILT
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BRE-if you start a new thread ,make sure that no foreign people or trucks are allowed.
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09-11-2018, 08:34 AM
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Name: jfaulkner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfaulkner
Sponsor? You can’t take a normal “working truck” and maybe add some fuel and air on your own? Turbos and super euro tuning costs that much? I mean it’s the baddest of the bad engines on the planet right? It shouldn’t need anything to compete with the US made stuff. And when you wax everyone at the race you can easily sell it for 4 times what you have in it I’m sure. So you will only have shipping one way.
Hey you could bring that bad arse truck over here and work for that trucking company you said was going to take over the US.
If you want to do something you have never done try pulling your head out of your arse. You routinely show how stupid you are in Tall Boy’s thread.
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Lol I wonder if you could make a Captcha that made him spell “tire” or make him enter the date Finland landed on the moon or what side of his country the Wright Brothers were from.
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Originally Posted by StainlessRRA
Flipping your mirrors up when you don't tow? That serves no purpose other than to let me know that you are a douche, from a distance.
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09-11-2018, 09:09 AM
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Name: biggy238
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Y'all get boring as hell without him stirring the pot.
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09-11-2018, 09:30 AM
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Name: BRE
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Rick
07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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