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05-28-2012, 10:32 PM
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Name: PTPULLINCHASSIS
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Why did the B.O.B change the tire rules for the 2.6 class?
I'm glad we waisted all that time and screwed up our rules w/ all their stupid requirements so we could have uniform rules last year only to have them to pull a stunt like this.
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05-28-2012, 10:33 PM
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Name: BluegrassDiesel
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As far as I know, they've always had the 35" tire rule.
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05-28-2012, 10:36 PM
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Name: kjpcummins
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Rules were locked in as any dot tire and were not to be change. They pulled a stupid tire rule out this year locally aswell. Also looks like diesel fuel is suppose to be 4.0 on the dielectric scale but whos know what acutally comes out of the pumps.
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05-28-2012, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kjpcummins
Rules were locked in as any dot tire and were not to be change. They pulled a stupid tire rule out this year locally aswell. Also looks like diesel fuel is suppose to be 4.0 on the dielectric scale but whos know what acutally comes out of the pumps.
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The limit for the DC is 4.9
The dielectric constant of diesel fuel is 4.0 at 70°F
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05-28-2012, 11:21 PM
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Name: PTPULLINCHASSIS
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Originally Posted by teddybear
As far as I know, they've always had the 35" tire rule.
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Nope they only had a 35" rule for the 3.0 class.
The 2.6 class didn't have any size restrictions until this year.
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05-29-2012, 05:45 AM
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Name: ABI MOTORSPORT
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Riddle me this, The 3 inch class rules say reese style hitch, must have full oem bed floor and four wheel hydraulic brakes but can run any rearend. My question is, are these rules being enforced in this class? Just saying something doesn't seem to be adding up. I thought the rules were supose to be uniform across most bigger pulling sanctions. I don't understand changing the rules in 2.6 and enforcing it to the (T) and not enforcing rules in the 3 inch class if this is the case. Just Saying
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05-29-2012, 07:49 AM
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Name: tylerdillard
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Originally Posted by ABI MOTORSPORT
Riddle me this, The 3 inch class rules say reese style hitch, must have full oem bed floor and four wheel hydraulic brakes but can run any rearend. My question is, are these rules being enforced in this class? Just saying something doesn't seem to be adding up. I thought the rules were supose to be uniform across most bigger pulling sanctions. I don't understand changing the rules in 2.6 and enforcing it to the (T) and not enforcing rules in the 3 inch class if this is the case. Just Saying
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None of us have 4 wheel breaks in 3.0 nor a Reese style hitch. But those rules aren't inforced. Mostly because we get along with one another and don't get pissed when we aren't winning every pull. We leave our rules the same and don't add more rules to try to push out the competition.
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05-29-2012, 08:18 AM
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Name: ABI MOTORSPORT
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The problem with this way of doing things is not for the guys that run every week, but what about the guys that come down once or twice a year to pull. The rules say we are illegal so why would we drive the distance to be legal or illegal, depending on who techs or is or isnt there. What other rules are not enforced ? Do U have to have an oem bed floor ?
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05-29-2012, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tylerdillard
None of us have 4 wheel breaks in 3.0 nor a Reese style hitch. But those rules aren't inforced. Mostly because we get along with one another and don't get pissed when we aren't winning every pull. We leave our rules the same and don't add more rules to try to push out the competition.
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It would be nice if everyone did this. I can't believe the B.O.B was so easily persuaded to change the tire rule from last year. It was obviously done to try and push out the competition.
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05-29-2012, 08:27 AM
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I still do as of right now. If u were to come and pull and was disqualified over a hitch or brakes we all would be. I don't agree in no case for an organization to cut the "regulars" a break and make it hard on the other guys coming to pull.
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05-29-2012, 08:47 AM
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Name: AdaMax
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So what are they adding to the fuel to change the dc , and what is the advantage . Is it like methanol ?
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05-29-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PTPULLINCHASSIS
It would be nice if everyone did this. I can't believe the B.O.B was so easily persuaded to change the tire rule from last year. It was obviously done to try and push out the competition.
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I'm not sure when/why the rule was changed, but I seriously doubt it was to "push out the competition". I don't recall any 2.6 trucks last year that dominated with anything bigger than a 35" tire. Jon Swartzentruber won the 2.6 points last year. Smoot and Hallien had some wins as well as several other trucks, all of whom were running 35 or 33 inch tires.
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05-29-2012, 12:59 PM
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So what are they adding to the fuel to change the dc , and what is the advantage . Is it like methanol ?
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cetane, acetone, alcohol, methanol, any of those will increase the DC. I think the basis of the rule is basically to limit the trucks to #2 pump diesel only.
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97 DodgePPL Limited Pro Stock "The Crippler"
09 3500 GMC CCDually
05 Silverado SS
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05-29-2012, 01:06 PM
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Name: outlaw99
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teddybear
I'm not sure when/why the rule was changed, but I seriously doubt it was to "push out the competition". I don't recall any 2.6 trucks last year that dominated with anything bigger than a 35" tire. Jon Swartzentruber won the 2.6 points last year. Smoot and Hallien had some wins as well as several other trucks, all of whom were running 35 or 33 inch tires.
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measure a 35 trxus sts on a 18 inch wheel or bigger tell me what it measure too...lol
on the fuel note.. they got dipped last year and failed at schied if I remember right.. ppl said next year you will be booted... wtf werent they booted then... I love how these rules get pushed over.. the 36" rule is stupid! now I cant pull b.o.b how about we eliminate sleeved motors???? lol
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05-29-2012, 01:07 PM
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Name: outlaw99
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no 33 inch tall tire truck is winning!!
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05-29-2012, 01:10 PM
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Name: BluegrassDiesel
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Originally Posted by outlaw99
no 33 inch tall tire truck is winning!!
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Jon runs a 33 in the rear and a 35 up front I think. I'm not sure if Clint Corwin won any hooks last year or not, but he runs 33s. Also got 2nd at Scheid IIRC, but we all know how hook order affects finish order up there
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05 Silverado SS
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05-29-2012, 01:16 PM
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Name: kjpcummins
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adding cetane makes it so you dont have to shoot a truck with ether for a few minutes to get it warm enough to run by itself. I thought locked in rules was a move in the right direction but it isnt being followed. With these truck classes changing rules every year they make their way out here so im prolly goin tractor pulling next year.
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05-29-2012, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by teddybear
Jon runs a 33 in the rear and a 35 up front I think. I'm not sure if Clint Corwin won any hooks last year or not, but he runs 33s. Also got 2nd at Scheid IIRC, but we all know how hook order affects finish order up there
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Dam, I really thought jon jon ran 35's all the way around.. Are you sure your not seing his trxus 35's as bigger than his bfg 35's in rear....lol
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05-29-2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by outlaw99
Dam, I really thought jon jon ran 35's all the way around.. Are you sure your not seing his trxus 35's as bigger than his bfg 35's in rear....lol
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I'm pretty sure, but I could be wrong. And I'm not saying that 33s are the way to go either; when my truck comes back out it will have a set of 35s on it.
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05 Silverado SS
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05-29-2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by teddybear
cetane, acetone, alcohol, methanol, any of those will increase the DC. I think the basis of the rule is basically to limit the trucks to #2 pump diesel only.
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#2 pump fuel doesn't have enough lubricants in it. So additives are put into the fuel to prolong injection pump,injectors etc. we have had several problems with regular fuel in our tractors on the farm. All of the fuel we have delivered now is treated so why in the world would an org. expect us to run it in a pulling truck. You guys can run fuel straight from the pump if u like. I for one will not. I've had my fair share of injector pump/injector issues. I know the fuel Haisley runs passes PPL and that's where I plan on running anyways so B.O.B can do what the wish. They are the ones who will pay for it and lose all the top trucks.
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