Advertisement
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Home Who's Online Today's Posts HP Calculator CompD Gift Shop Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together > Tech Area- Dodge > Dodge Competition and Performance
Register Members List Timeslips EFI Live Library Invite Your Friends FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Dodge Competition and Performance General Dodge Competition and Performance Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-16-2010, 01:18 AM   #21
Big Blue24
 
Big Blue24's Avatar

Name: Big Blue24
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cedar City, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,080
So when is the next track day for the Budget Beater?

ET and MPH predictions? My favorite part about adding mods is guessing the power increase based solely on seat-o-the-pants dynometer and then backing up the claim with increased trap speed at the track.
__________________
95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
7/14/2017 10.7 @ 133 MPH
SXE 364.5 over HT80

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2010, 06:11 AM   #22
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
I dont get back home from work until the 28th. I'm hoping the track is still open on the first of next month which is the usual Friday night drags. The only changes to the truck from the last time at the track will be the 6 in stack and the pressure adjustment to the trans. I'm hoping to break into the 13's and break the 100 mph mark as well. I'm still running the stock skinny tires and stock rebuild trans so I won't beable to launch very hard but I still think 13's are very possible
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2010, 10:47 AM   #23
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
After reading alot of big blue24's testing and comparisons i have been thinking about doing my own. Since the Dirty Dodge is still brokedown with a tits up trany i was throwing around the idea of pulling off the E.D. "Better Bullet" (66/74/14) and throwing it on the Budget Beater. Stock rebuilt trany is really my only concern but i really want to try this combo out. Since i already have the HE351 on the 12 valve the Better Bullet will bolt right up with no problems.
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2010, 11:25 AM   #24
Big Blue24
 
Big Blue24's Avatar

Name: Big Blue24
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cedar City, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,080
I'd definitely be interested in seeing the horsepower difference from a turbo swap with identical fueling that compares HE351 to an S366. I think they claim the 366 flows just over 80 lbs per minute so it's actually pretty close to the GT4294's 88 lbs per minute in airflow capacity.
__________________
95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
7/14/2017 10.7 @ 133 MPH
SXE 364.5 over HT80

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2010, 11:32 AM   #25
SSpeeDEMONSS
 
SSpeeDEMONSS's Avatar

Name: SSpeeDEMONSS
Title: Still Learning
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2006
Location: LA/OC, so cal
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,370
do it!

Garrett
__________________
2003 F-250 XLT, CC, SB, 4wd, 5r110, 3.73 in pieces
"Runs, DRIPS, and Errors" 94 2500 12v, 4wd, 5spd, 4.10. 382hp/1000tq gone but not forgotten
2000 GMC 2500 6.0 LQ4, 4l80e, 2wd, RC, LB needs a turbo
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2010, 01:08 PM   #26
YOUNG GUNS15
 
YOUNG GUNS15's Avatar

Name: YOUNG GUNS15
Title: Im AWESOME!!!!
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Orem Utah
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,960
Go for it!! I was asking around on the better bullets to see who runs them on a 12 valve. They all seem to run them on CR's

Subscribed!!
__________________
Spence
-1994 4x4 12 valve 13mm, single 475 748/1292 Fuel 872/1470 N2O
-2005 4x4 12 valve CCSB 3rd gen '12-rail' 280hp
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2010, 06:05 AM   #27
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
Looks like Firebird raceway in Boise will be having a test and tune and street legal race night on the 2nd. I'm going to do the turbo swap and head down there to get some track times. Hopefully I can spool this big thing with the stock injectors and hopefully the trany holds up. I'll get some better info on how and where the HE351 spools and get a good comparision to the "Better Bullet"
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2010, 10:34 PM   #28
DieselTransform

Name: DieselTransform
Title: Green Behind the Ears
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2010
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 65
Nice project truck. Those are the most fun. Kind of what my ford is going to be. Something to pound on, and not have to rely on getting me to work the next day.
__________________
01 Ford Superduty- P pump 12 valve, 47rh trans (under construction)
01 24v daily driver, dual disc clutch, adrenaline, holset35/40.
In response to the novel "An Inconvienient Truth", my new Novel "Al Gore, An un-necessary Douche Bag"
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 01:47 PM   #29
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
Well i got the 66/74/14 "Better Bullet" on last week and was very impressed at how well it spooled. the He351 would build about 5psi at 1500rpms and the "Better Bullet" would build that 5psi around 1800. This turbo is very easy and fun to daily drive even with no plate and 191's. when i first put it in i could hit 55psi very easy and being that i dont have headstuds yet i had to adjust the wastegate down far enough to only push 45psi. With a longer wastegate bolt i was able to acheive the 45psi at WOT.

I made it to Boise friday night on using just over a 1/4 tank of fuel. Boise is 300 miles from where i live and has alot of windy roads and grades to pull. hand calculating my fuel mileage the "Budget Beater" got a little over 25mpg on the trip down. I got to Firebird Raceway the next day, got all teched in and got ready for test and tune. My first pass did a very very easy launch. i launched with about 5psi and eased into the throttle for just sec then mashed her to the floor. Truck took off like a rocket and mangaed to cut a 14.1 @ 96mph. With the He351 and a hard launch i could only get a best of 14.5 @ 94mph pushing a good 1800* down the track. With the "Better Bullet" it will only hit 1500*. When i went to make my second pass and started my small burnout i noticed it took alot longer to spool the turbo and was almost hard to spin the tires. Well needless to say i couldnt spool the turbo at the line for the rest of the day and was only able to manage a 14.5 at best after my first run. Im thinking either the converter tightened up a ton or my timing slipped pretty bad. Even though the turbo spools like crap now it is still very easy and fun to daily drive and builds 5psi around 1950rpms now. After all my passes i can now feel that the trans is shifting alot slower now at WOT and isnt hitting at hard either. but for a stock trans that is expected and im very surprised it has lasted this long. I will get some pics up later of the new stack i built and installed as well as the "Better Bullet" sitting in place!
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 04:33 PM   #30
Shambo
 
Shambo's Avatar

Name: Shambo
Title: Diesel Idiot
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Deltona, FL
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,413
I'm also building a budjet Racer and I have managed to get down to 13.98 so far. and that was with the stock turbo I have since installed a HX40 so I have to get to the track to see how it does. When I started getting the power I trashed the tranny so get ready! you are on barrowed time right now! that is when I broke the budjet! !
__________________
RIP 2003 3500 CR
1997 12V 2500 14.207 1/4 ET @94 MPH.
THANKS DIESEL SPECIALISTS, AIRAID, FTI, PUREFLOW TECH, and COR FAB
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 04:35 PM   #31
Shambo
 
Shambo's Avatar

Name: Shambo
Title: Diesel Idiot
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Deltona, FL
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,413
link to my thread

budget racer to 13.98
__________________
RIP 2003 3500 CR
1997 12V 2500 14.207 1/4 ET @94 MPH.
THANKS DIESEL SPECIALISTS, AIRAID, FTI, PUREFLOW TECH, and COR FAB
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 08:13 PM   #32
Big Blue24
 
Big Blue24's Avatar

Name: Big Blue24
Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cedar City, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,080
We should have a budget racer national race with a $50.00 purse. It will cost $0.50 to buy in and only 100 will be allowed to enter.

Only rule is your truck has to cost less than $5000.

We'll run it as a double elimination tournament, the last truck standing takes home the $50 pot.....
__________________
95' 2wd Junker Drag Truck
7/14/2017 10.7 @ 133 MPH
SXE 364.5 over HT80

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2010, 09:08 PM   #33
YOUNG GUNS15
 
YOUNG GUNS15's Avatar

Name: YOUNG GUNS15
Title: Im AWESOME!!!!
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Orem Utah
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,960
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Blue24 View Post
We should have a budget racer national race with a $50.00 purse. It will cost $0.50 to buy in and only 100 will be allowed to enter.

Only rule is your truck has to cost less than $5000.

We'll run it as a double elimination tournament, the last truck standing takes home the $50 pot.....
How about less than 4k?? I got mine for 2200!!

Im in for this race.....haha
__________________
Spence
-1994 4x4 12 valve 13mm, single 475 748/1292 Fuel 872/1470 N2O
-2005 4x4 12 valve CCSB 3rd gen '12-rail' 280hp
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 11:58 AM   #34
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Blue24 View Post
We should have a budget racer national race with a $50.00 purse. It will cost $0.50 to buy in and only 100 will be allowed to enter.

Only rule is your truck has to cost less than $5000.

We'll run it as a double elimination tournament, the last truck standing takes home the $50 pot.....
I like the sounds of that! We should have the cost be less than $5000 total invested. price of vehicle and parts included in the price. Wait im at $5600 if you count my E.D. Turbo i pulled off my CR. But it was purchased for the CR and not the 12v so it was free in a way. Too many rules for a $50 purse.... i give up, lets go back to $5000 vehicle price.
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 12:19 PM   #35
StainlessRRA
 
StainlessRRA's Avatar

Name: StainlessRRA
Title: Advocatus diaboli
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Colorado
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 6,297
A budget beater race? Awesome idea! My old 12v would be some serious competition. When I had 3k even invested she ran neck and neck with a brand new SS 2 Camero. Shes changed over the summer, and is a little, scratch that, ALOT faster....
__________________
Kyle - Certified Vestiphobe

Quote:
Originally Posted by wideopen View Post
It would have helped if the picture didn't look like a Helen Keller Painting.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 12:46 PM   #36
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
Okay finally got around to taking pics of the "Better Bullet" I installed as well as the stack i built.

Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 12:48 PM   #37
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH

  Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 03:03 AM   #38
Dual EE

Name: Dual EE
Title: Green Behind the Ears
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Eureka, CA
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 44
Subscribing.
__________________
1995 Dodge 3500 CC, 2wd, auto, 370's, 181's, Ponci's custom plate, Timing@ 18*, K&N, Dodgezilla/18.5, 3.54/Dana Power Loc, 3.5" Flowmaster exhaust, mack plug.

Dyno #'s - 383hp/871tq

1/4 times - 14.4 @ 95.5 mph.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2010, 06:05 PM   #39
9712valve
 
9712valve's Avatar

Name: 9712valve
Title: Turtle Racer
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,862
very nice, sounds like a lot of fun, I cant wait to get another 12v
__________________
10 f350 ccsb 6.4 deleted s467 fmw with race cover.
05 f250 rclb 6.0 looney tuned.

Last edited by 9712valve; 10-23-2010 at 06:11 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 12:57 AM   #40
TTR 21
 
TTR 21's Avatar

Name: TTR 21
Title: Human Spear
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Jordan, UT
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 1,096
Small update for the Budget Beater: I recently ordered an Airdog 2, 5x.018 Contagious Diesel Injectors, ARP Headstuds, Titanium Retainers and Keepers, and a timing kit to bump it up whenever i need to!
__________________
Budget Beater: 9.36 @ 148 MPH


Last edited by TTR 21; 01-30-2011 at 12:58 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:20 AM.

 


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2017, CompetitionDiesel.com
all information found on this site is property of www.competitiondiesel.com