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12-04-2016, 09:08 PM
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Name: Ridemywideglide
Title: Diesel NON-Pro
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Looking for some turbo advice..
I've been running my Cummins swapped V10 since about March. Put it on the rollers in April (I think) and put down 418/967, on the HX35... Needless to say it's not loving life...
Signature is not complete, so here's my specs.
5spd, 3:55's, 285/75/16 tires, 5x012 injectors from PDP, Seth tuned pump (1994 5spd, 175?, I believe the max was 480cc on it), AFC washers modded, foot modded, Marine cam, shaved the head so I'm running the +20 head gasket. Did some clean-up on the head, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "ported' head. Timing at ~16.5*, adjustable OFV. All the other usuals, head studs, valve springs, etc..
SO... I've been looking at turbos since I got this thing on the road. From my own reading here, I keep coming back to the s364.5/68 .80 turbo.. It's affordable, and seems to be what I'm looking for, but I would like some input from the more experienced crowd.
This HX35 will not clear up at any RPM, obviously. I rarely tow, and not heavy when I do. Looking to keep a quick spool, even thought about paying the crazy extra for the .7 housing on the above turbo...
I'm thinking with the right turbo, I should be well into the 500HP range.. Just want to get it right the first time..
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1996 2500 CTD, Ext Cab SLT 4x4, 5 spd, 3:55's, 285/75/16's, Ultralite EGT, Boost & Fuel Pressure guages. Moded AFC, 191 DV's, Marine Cam, 5x012's, HX35, BHAF.
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12-04-2016, 10:36 PM
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Name: Ridemywideglide
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Cruising some other threads, I remembered all the **** that I knew I would forget.
Has 191 DV's, and 4k springs as well...
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1996 2500 CTD, Ext Cab SLT 4x4, 5 spd, 3:55's, 285/75/16's, Ultralite EGT, Boost & Fuel Pressure guages. Moded AFC, 191 DV's, Marine Cam, 5x012's, HX35, BHAF.
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12-04-2016, 10:40 PM
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Name: Redrider2911
Title: Too Much Time
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Bumping that timing to 20 should help you pick up a bit too.
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49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread
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12-04-2016, 10:44 PM
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Name: Ridemywideglide
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I've thought about that, and probably will do that. I read many times about becoming harder to start with more advanced timing, so I was reserved. Bad thing is, it cranks for 5-6 seconds anyway if I don't lightly touch the pedal. My 215 pump on my old truck would hit in half a revolution. I don't like the way I starts now, and I guess it probably won't change for the worse with timing.
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1996 2500 CTD, Ext Cab SLT 4x4, 5 spd, 3:55's, 285/75/16's, Ultralite EGT, Boost & Fuel Pressure guages. Moded AFC, 191 DV's, Marine Cam, 5x012's, HX35, BHAF.
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12-05-2016, 06:02 AM
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Name: badbowtie
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Go to power driven diesels website and watch the dyno videos. I am currently running the 64.5/68/.7 I wish I had gone with the 62/68/.7. It made more average horsepower. The bigger turbo made a few more peak ponies but less average due to slower spool times. They also showed the tighter turbine housings spool faster and make more power every time. I run my timing at 20*, you will want the tighter housing with the advanced timing.
96 3500 5x018 7mm dvs 62fmw
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12-05-2016, 07:22 AM
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Name: BRE
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20 degrees shouldn't cause an issue with starting. Some trucks just have to have a little throttle applied to start quickly.
For what your after it seems, id go with a 63 in some variation.
I ran a 62/65/14 on a VP truck and hated it.
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12-05-2016, 10:33 AM
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Name: Redrider2911
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I'm running 23* and no grid heaters. Its been in the low 20s lately. Starts in the first few rotations with just a little pedal for the first couple seconds. Idles low and loppy for about 10 seconds then clears up. I'll probably start plugging it in this week.
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49 Willys Pickup. 5600lb. 11.8sec @115mph 1/4. 12 valve. MegaSquirted 47RH. 3.54 posi rear. 35" tires. 64mm HE351ve, S475 (75/96/1.32), A/W Intercooler. AFC mods. 5x16s. 191 DVs, 180 pump. 23*. 85psi. Build Thread
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12-05-2016, 10:59 AM
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Name: Smokem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badbowtie
They also showed the tighter turbine housings spool faster and make more power every time.
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Did you expect a different result, especially on a positive sweep?
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12-05-2016, 06:54 PM
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Name: blackcloudCTD95
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I was In your same shoes. i had a 64.5/73/14 and I hated it I ended up running my old ps 62/65/12 ( spools like stock on my truck ) and i bought the crazy Carl's piping kit and did some trading I now have a s471. I won't look back. More power than I need. A 71 or 75 under a sticker
Would be fun
If twins aren't in your price range I would look at the 62/68. It made 14hp less than the 64.5 but spooled 2 secs faster.
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01-05-2017, 07:16 PM
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Name: oilburnerr
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does anyone have any input on the difference in the dps 64/71/.70 and the new borg warner 64/73/.80 ? on a five speed truck with 23/25* of timing and 5x12s? may even go to a 5x14? the smaller exhaust housing and wheel that dps offers should be quicker spool up and they also offer the turbo in a ceramic ball bearing now so that also makes me think it will have an edge. will the dps turbo support over 600hp? the sxe364 is rate up to 800?
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01-06-2017, 05:35 AM
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Name: kawi600
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if youre doing any kind of city driving, I would keep the timing low and the turbo small.
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02-11-2017, 09:02 AM
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Name: TURBOLVR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilburnerr
does anyone have any input on the difference in the dps 64/71/.70 and the new borg warner 64/73/.80 ? on a five speed truck with 23/25* of timing and 5x12s? may even go to a 5x14? the smaller exhaust housing and wheel that dps offers should be quicker spool up and they also offer the turbo in a ceramic ball bearing now so that also makes me think it will have an edge. will the dps turbo support over 600hp? the sxe364 is rate up to 800?
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google dps quality, decide for yourself.
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02-11-2017, 09:22 AM
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Name: Justappumped24v
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You should just check out the performance drop ins. Calibrated Power's stealth turbo is like a fleece cheetah without the ridiculous price tag. Support 650rwhp and spools like stock. There is also a Borg Warner drop in from Power Driven Diesel I used on my 12v with 5x12 I loved it worked really good on a 400ish Hp truck and stayed clean in the city it was an auto though.
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