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01-16-2013, 09:34 PM
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Name: rick stark
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Will it hold?
I bought a Stg. 2 47re from Jeff about 2 years ago and parked the truck almost a year ago to build the motor. So now let the brain picking begin, I was wondering if a 650-750hp motor is to much for the transmisssion? Being as its rated up to 650, I dont want it to be to much for it. I will change the fluid because its been sitting for a year. (the link is in my sig for mods, plans, and whatnot)
On a side note, I was also wondering how to adjust/bump up gov. pressure. I know there is a screw in there, and with me not knowing a heluva lot on transmissions, I dont want to tear into it without being 100% sure. I was told by Jeff a while back to turn it up just a shade because I would have to literally come to a complete stop for it to shift down to first and wanted the shifts to be a little firmer.
Thanks guys.
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2004.5 QCSB 3500 4x4 NV5600 Toe Pig
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01-17-2013, 03:20 AM
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Name: JSaat
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Knowing your luck with trannys Nick it wont hold.
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01-17-2013, 03:32 AM
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Little allen screw on the drivers side of valve body. Have to drop it to use Allen wrench, or use vice grips lol
I've been told 1 full turn is 3psi
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01-17-2013, 03:51 AM
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Name: rick stark
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Originally Posted by madmikeismad
Little allen screw on the drivers side of valve body. Have to drop it to use Allen wrench, or use vice grips lol
I've been told 1 full turn is 3psi
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How many turns do you suggests Mike?
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1996 RCLB 2500 2x4 Built 47re Cruiser
2018 Chevy Cruze 1.6 TD 9 Speed Auto Work Car
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01-17-2013, 04:02 AM
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How many turns do you suggests Mike?
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when we did this last valve body I went in 5 turns, next time I have the pan down I'm turning it another 3. the shifts are a little soft, and it doesn't always go into 3rd, or down shift to 2nd without a little touch of the throttle.
but this is on a valve body that's heavily modified so it's going to be different for yours, I would still say do it least 5 full turns to start, and then if it seems almost perfect adjust it with the TV cable.
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01-17-2013, 06:21 AM
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Name: rick stark
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And you can do this without dropping the vb or no?
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01-17-2013, 06:34 AM
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Nick, you need to just call them. He's gonna be the only one that will be able to give direct answers since he built it. Then if something were to go wrong, I'm sure he would be willing to help. From the shifts I've felt in that truck, I'd say more line pressure is the last thing you need lol.
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01-17-2013, 07:00 AM
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Nick, you need to just call them. He's gonna be the only one that will be able to give direct answers since he built it. Then if something were to go wrong, I'm sure he would be willing to help. From the shifts I've felt in that truck, I'd say more line pressure is the last thing you need lol.
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Then you remember it not shifting down to first.
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2004.5 QCSB 3500 4x4 NV5600 Toe Pig
1997 RCLB 2500 4x4 Firepunk 47re Puller
1996 RCLB 2500 2x4 Built 47re Cruiser
2018 Chevy Cruze 1.6 TD 9 Speed Auto Work Car
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01-17-2013, 07:28 AM
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Name: mathews8pt
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You need a 3/16 Allen to adjust the screw. CC is more pressure. I would call and ask Jeff, but I'd assume about 2 turns is what you'll want
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01-17-2013, 07:36 AM
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I want to say Jeff sad no more than 3 or 4 when I talked to him a while back.
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2004.5 QCSB 3500 4x4 NV5600 Toe Pig
1997 RCLB 2500 4x4 Firepunk 47re Puller
1996 RCLB 2500 2x4 Built 47re Cruiser
2018 Chevy Cruze 1.6 TD 9 Speed Auto Work Car
RIP Dex
RIP Morgan Primm
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01-17-2013, 11:48 AM
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Name: BRE
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Then you remember it not shifting down to first.
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I do but for that truck I think I might just go full manual. However... I get tired of shifting.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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01-17-2013, 04:42 PM
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I do but for that truck I think I might just go full manual. However... I get tired of shifting.
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It's a lot more fun shifting an auto
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01-17-2013, 05:03 PM
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It's a lot more fun shifting an auto
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Been there and loved it lol. However... From the time I was 16 I've never owned an auto. My first car was the Camaro and had a full manual in it from day one. Every thing since then has been a gear grinder.
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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01-17-2013, 05:11 PM
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Name: oldblue116
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I am beyond happy with my full manual with the pro ratchet...except when i have to make tight turns and go from first to reverse a few times. It gets to be a b1tch.
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01-17-2013, 05:43 PM
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I am beyond happy with my full manual with the pro ratchet...except when i have to make tight turns and go from first to reverse a few times. It gets to be a b1tch.
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thats why I wish I would have went reverse pattern VB, so I didn't have to move through every gear first. Down shifting to stop would be more practical too.
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01-17-2013, 06:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRE
I do but for that truck I think I might just go full manual. However... I get tired of shifting.
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It's definitely in the plans. Maybe next summer.
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1997 RCLB 2500 4x4 Firepunk 47re Puller
1996 RCLB 2500 2x4 Built 47re Cruiser
2018 Chevy Cruze 1.6 TD 9 Speed Auto Work Car
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01-17-2013, 06:44 PM
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thats why I wish I would have went reverse pattern VB, so I didn't have to move through every gear first. Down shifting to stop would be more practical too.
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When I swap in an auto, it will have a reverse pattern full manual VB. Seems so much more practical than the standard pattern.
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01-17-2013, 07:48 PM
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Name: oldblue116
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Idk, i have been using a forward pattern for years in race cars. Having said that, i would constantly phuck up with a reverse pattern lol no beuno.
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01-17-2013, 09:18 PM
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Name: BRE
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I drove everyday in a car with a regular full manual and a b&m quicksilver... Some people just have less of a tolerance than others. And while its no truck... A second gen Camaro with a 6" cowl hood is no small car lol
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07 Dodge 3500 - Tow mirrors, silencer ring MIA, Spectra air filter.
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Originally Posted by jfaulkner
There really is nothing better than OEM. That goes for anything from turbos to boobs.
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RIP Dex KCCO
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01-17-2013, 09:32 PM
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Name: oldblue116
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Yea I understand, but I would bet that your Camaro has a much better steering radious than my truck lol is a quicksilver a ratchet ?
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