Advertisement
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Home Who's Online Today's Posts HP Calculator CompD Gift Shop Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together > The Starting Line > Competition Vehicle Build Tech > Injectables; Water, Meth, Nitrous, Ect.
Register Members List Timeslips EFI Live Library Invite Your Friends FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-30-2016, 10:46 PM   #21
SmokinCAT
 
SmokinCAT's Avatar

Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oh
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by Somethinfierce View Post
I would 100% agree with extended power. Keep the pressure high otherwise the mist will turn to droplets. I know drag racing is a lot different than pulling but we only use about 40oz in 15 sec in our puller. 96oz in 10sec is a ton!
What exhaust temps do you shoot for with the water on?

Also what the purpose of the check valve in the system and what sort of pressure does it need to be rated at?
 
Old 06-30-2016, 11:27 PM   #22
AHall
 
AHall's Avatar

Name: AHall
Title: Hobbyist
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Western Slope, CO
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 4,603
That is a ton. I found that (6) 100ml/min nozzles move 2400ml/min @ 1200psi. 13.5fl/oz per 10 sec.

Although it doesn't sound like much, this is a visual example of a single nozzle in the six port system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGEBOH4tT0
__________________
-Adam

Prostreet F-100 Build Thread

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...112541&page=24

Last edited by AHall; 06-30-2016 at 11:35 PM.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 07:08 AM   #23
97rada
 
97rada's Avatar

Name: 97rada
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,410
Watching for later. Need to get mine setup here in the coming months
__________________
Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 09:40 AM   #24
WUnderwood
 
WUnderwood's Avatar

Name: WUnderwood
Title: CompD Minion
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 8,418
Where are you injecting the water? In the intake shelf?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
2011 Ford F-150 Lariat 4X4

Click the image to open in full size.

RIP BFD99, jponder, and Forrest Nearing
 
Old 07-01-2016, 10:38 AM   #25
CREED1
 
CREED1's Avatar

Name: CREED1
Title: Throwed Off
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cleveland, Tx
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,880
Click the image to open in full size.

Water inj setup on my new truck.. 6 nozzles one per cylinder .022 jets currently. Hydraulic pump driven off back of gear case pumps to simpson valve set to bring water in at 30psi, water then goes into rail system and then out of rail to each nozzle.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 11:22 AM   #26
Mooner1
 
Mooner1's Avatar

Name: Mooner1
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kansas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 395
Dude...that is slick as hell. 6 nozzles or 12? I see you said 6, I just see 12 lines. Dual inlet nozzles? Either way, nice work man.
__________________
'79 Power Wagon, '83 D-350 crew, '89 Ram Charger, '99 2500 ECLB 5spd, '15 Golf SportWagen TDI
 
Old 07-01-2016, 03:31 PM   #27
Phooker
 
Phooker's Avatar

Name: Phooker
Title: Gluten Free
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lake Charles, La
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 7,466
12 nozzles...6 for water...
 
Old 07-01-2016, 04:14 PM   #28
CREED1
 
CREED1's Avatar

Name: CREED1
Title: Throwed Off
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cleveland, Tx
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,880
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phooker View Post
12 nozzles...6 for water...


Click the image to open in full size.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 05:45 PM   #29
SmokinCAT
 
SmokinCAT's Avatar

Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oh
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREED1 View Post
Click the image to open in full size.

Water inj setup on my new truck.. 6 nozzles one per cylinder .022 jets currently. Hydraulic pump driven off back of gear case pumps to simpson valve set to bring water in at 30psi, water then goes into rail system and then out of rail to each nozzle.
What did they shoot for to run the EGTs at on a full power run?
 
Old 07-01-2016, 07:09 PM   #30
CREED1
 
CREED1's Avatar

Name: CREED1
Title: Throwed Off
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cleveland, Tx
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,880
Question for you guys on big water systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT View Post
What did they shoot for to run the EGTs at on a full power run?


Have not got this system on this truck dialed in yet literally have 2 burnouts and a shakedown pass under our belt with it. Same system on my other truck keeps things right around 1600 on fuel , 1800 on nitrous.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 08:07 PM   #31
SmokinCAT
 
SmokinCAT's Avatar

Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oh
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREED1 View Post
Have not got this system on this truck dialed in yet literally have 2 burnouts and a shakedown pass under our belt with it. Same system on my other truck keeps things right around 1600 on fuel , 1800 on nitrous.
Thank you, I'm working on trying to piece together a system for my semi, have no idea of where to even start with water flow. Mine will only be 3 nozzles at the inlet port of the heads.

I still don't understand how a check valve comes into play, I know most high pressure systems use them, but don't know where it needs to be placed.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 08:09 PM   #32
97rada
 
97rada's Avatar

Name: 97rada
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,410
Question for you guys on big water systems

I don't see the need for a check valve either. I know I would love to see a diagram of a system of they do need one
__________________
Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 08:17 PM   #33
SmokinCAT
 
SmokinCAT's Avatar

Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oh
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada View Post
I don't see the need for a check valve either. I know I would love to see a diagram of a system of they do need one
Unless it's to hold line pressure between nozzles and pump.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 08:19 PM   #34
97rada
 
97rada's Avatar

Name: 97rada
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,410
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokinCAT View Post
Unless it's to hold line pressure between nozzles and pump.


The system I will be running does not need anything like that. It makes pressure fast, I guess one wouldn't hurt on the suction line just to hold prime
__________________
Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 09:01 PM   #35
VMAX
 
VMAX's Avatar

Name: VMAX
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,363
Mine ended up with a 50psi hobs switch six 0.24 nozzles one per cylinder and one .020 post intercooler. Eats almost 3/4 gallon per pass. Helped with EGTS allot. All though my motor always ran hot. Thankfully it is getting rebuilt

__________________
1978 LIL Red Cummins Express Truck
2015 Ford F250 tow pig
https://www.facebook.com/cumminsexpress?ref=hl

Last edited by VMAX; 07-01-2016 at 09:04 PM.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 09:04 PM   #36
VMAX
 
VMAX's Avatar

Name: VMAX
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,363
Can't even post photos anymore. A little rusty lol
__________________
1978 LIL Red Cummins Express Truck
2015 Ford F250 tow pig
https://www.facebook.com/cumminsexpress?ref=hl
 
Old 07-01-2016, 09:06 PM   #37
97rada
 
97rada's Avatar

Name: 97rada
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Feb 2008
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 5,410
Quote:
Originally Posted by VMAX View Post
Mine ended up with a 50psi hobs switch six 0.24 nozzles one per cylinder and one .020 post intercooler. Eats almost 3/4 gallon per pass. Helped with EGTS allot. All though my motor always ran hot. Thankfully it is getting rebuilt

20140926_213450.jpg Photo by vmax2005 | Photobucket


Did power ever pick up
__________________
Austin
tow truck- 14-3500 with tuning
toy truck -94 rclb auto- 5.2x with a lot left. Shooting for 4s

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius- and alot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
 
Old 07-01-2016, 09:08 PM   #38
VMAX
 
VMAX's Avatar

Name: VMAX
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,363
I don't know honestly. Never ran it without water and always changing crap lol. Motor never made good power.
__________________
1978 LIL Red Cummins Express Truck
2015 Ford F250 tow pig
https://www.facebook.com/cumminsexpress?ref=hl
 
Old 07-01-2016, 09:10 PM   #39
VMAX
 
VMAX's Avatar

Name: VMAX
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,363
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREED1 View Post
Have not got this system on this truck dialed in yet literally have 2 burnouts and a shakedown pass under our belt with it. Same system on my other truck keeps things right around 1600 on fuel , 1800 on nitrous.
You had way smaller nozzles and an electric pump before?
__________________
1978 LIL Red Cummins Express Truck
2015 Ford F250 tow pig
https://www.facebook.com/cumminsexpress?ref=hl
 
Old 07-02-2016, 06:31 AM   #40
SmokinCAT
 
SmokinCAT's Avatar

Name: SmokinCAT
Title: Cheap and Easy.
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oh
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by 97rada View Post
The system I will be running does not need anything like that. It makes pressure fast, I guess one wouldn't hurt on the suction line just to hold prime
I mean to keep the nozzles from draining after the pump is off.
 
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:42 AM.

 


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2024, CompetitionDiesel.com
all information found on this site is property of www.competitiondiesel.com