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07-24-2013, 08:34 PM
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Name: USARMY12V
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By the way, naming a general budget amount would greatly help us steer you towards what you definitely need and things that simply would be helpful yet not required. A lot of us have done considerable ground work for parts and prices and we don't mind sharing our trials and errors.
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"God gave them 24 for those too dumb to use 12."
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07-24-2013, 08:39 PM
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Name: Penni
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USARMY12V
FWIW, get a S400 turbo if the rules allow it.
Necessary:
Good tires (BFG'S or STS)
Traction bars you have
Gearing
Research hitch builds on here
Good clutch
Good u-joints
Governor springs
Valve springs
Injectors
DV
Good stuff:
S464
Balanced pump
Bowl, throat and port matching P&P (leave intake shelf on)
Pack on weight
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That is a beast breakdown, thank you got that...
Hancook at's
Working on ideas for 4.88; trying to get everything cheaper, kinda difficult
Working with Dan from Valiar on a clutch, trying to decide if I need the sintered iron plate or if just the ceramic is sufficient... thoughts?
U joints will be upgraded, 4k springs and 60lb springs for now... waiting on Weston for injectors and dv, thinking 5x.018 and full cuts
The turbo dilemma is exactly what the above individual stated, couldn't have worded it better, danged if I do, danged if I don't kinda thing... pump work will be done I the off season
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Mike
98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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07-24-2013, 08:42 PM
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Name: ClamDigger4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penni
That is a beast breakdown, thank you got that...
Hancook at's
Working on ideas for 4.88; trying to get everything cheaper, kinda difficult
Working with Dan from Valiar on a clutch, trying to decide if I need the sintered iron plate or if just the ceramic is sufficient... thoughts?
U joints will be upgraded, 4k springs and 60lb springs for now... waiting on Weston for injectors and dv, thinking 5x.018 and full cuts
The turbo dilemma is exactly what the above individual stated, couldn't have worded it better, danged if I do, danged if I don't kinda thing... pump work will be done I the off season
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1410 u joints should be fine.
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07-24-2013, 08:44 PM
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Name: Penni
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USARMY12V
By the way, naming a general budget amount would greatly help us steer you towards what you definitely need and things that simply would be helpful yet not required. A lot of us have done considerable ground work for parts and prices and we don't mind sharing our trials and errors.
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Right now my budget is around $6000, finding out fast that doesn't last long! between charger, sticks, fuel pump, buying a trans, clutch, and rear end, now trying to squeeze gears into the equation... don't know how you guys do it
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98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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07-24-2013, 08:47 PM
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Name: USARMY12V
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Depending what charger you get 5x0.018s are extremely large unless you're using a 160/175 pump for some reason. 5x0.014s or 5x0.016s are ideal, remember, probably can't use water injection to cool... 4.88's are popular with 33" tires. As far as tires go, best bet is to do some ground work and see what works and lasts in your area. While a WS "cheetah" may be sweet, they are not as durable as an S400 so choose wisely based upon your rules. As far as the clutch goes, I have faith will set you straight. If you have your head off, port match the exhaust at least, you can do it yourself with a few carbide bits and worth every minute spent. Match head to manifold, manifold to turbo.
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"God gave them 24 for those too dumb to use 12."
Be a happy dinosaur
1998 QCLB 5.9 Auto Under the Knife
2010 MCSB 6.7 68RFE Draconian MCC soon to be EFI, Deleted
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07-24-2013, 08:52 PM
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Name: zstroken
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Go ahead and do the 5K GSK kit
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07-24-2013, 08:52 PM
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Name: USARMY12V
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penni
Right now my budget is around $6000, finding out fast that doesn't last long! between charger, sticks, fuel pump, buying a trans, clutch, and rear end, now trying to squeeze gears into the equation... don't know how you guys do it
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$6000 isn't terrible... Not going to get everything you want but doable. A good place to check is the classifieds. You can pick up used or new things you need on the cheap/reduced prices.
$750 gears/work
$750 injectors/DVS
$1500 turbo/T3-T4 plate
$1500 clutch
$1200 tires
$300 misc
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"God gave them 24 for those too dumb to use 12."
Be a happy dinosaur
1998 QCLB 5.9 Auto Under the Knife
2010 MCSB 6.7 68RFE Draconian MCC soon to be EFI, Deleted
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07-24-2013, 08:54 PM
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Name: USARMY12V
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And if you're needing to buy a NV4500 and D80 with that budget you are up a creek haha.
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-Chris
"God gave them 24 for those too dumb to use 12."
Be a happy dinosaur
1998 QCLB 5.9 Auto Under the Knife
2010 MCSB 6.7 68RFE Draconian MCC soon to be EFI, Deleted
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07-24-2013, 09:16 PM
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Name: ClamDigger4
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For tires I would use treadWright recaps if you wanna save some money.
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07-24-2013, 09:45 PM
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Name: bigstacks95
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S400SX Series
S464 for 579 bucks
Add another 190 for the .90 if you need a tighter housing
I know they aren't site sponsors but the prices are sweet
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07-24-2013, 10:10 PM
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Name: Penni
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USARMY12V
And if you're needing to buy a NV4500 and D80 with that budget you are up a creek haha.
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Actually picked up a smoking deal on the nv4500 and the D80 for $1500 combined, with all the components to swap from auto to manual included and the big input...
ill look into that turbo for sure! thanks!
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Mike
98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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07-24-2013, 10:21 PM
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Name: JD3020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstacks95
S400SX Series
S464 for 579 bucks
Add another 190 for the .90 if you need a tighter housing
I know they aren't site sponsors but the prices are sweet
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But is a 464 2.5 legal? If it is a true 64mm, that works out to 2.51".
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'14 F-250 XLT, 54k miles, leveled on 35" Trail Grapplers. Stock for now.
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07-25-2013, 03:25 AM
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Name: c_houchins8_182
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I'm pretty sure 2.5 is something like 63.5xxxx but someone on here was saying that even a box stock s463 s363 has too loose of a tolerance from the factory and wouldn't pass the plug rule.
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07-25-2013, 05:44 AM
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Name: 40ray
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Alot of places alow 2.55. You just need to look up the rules and see what you can get away with.
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07-25-2013, 02:13 PM
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Name: Penni
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Yes the general rule around here is the 2.55 plug...
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Mike
98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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07-25-2013, 04:57 PM
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Name: HightechRedneck
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If your wanting a straight bore 2.5 charger that's a whole new game.
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07-26-2013, 12:26 PM
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Name: Penni
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Update on this...
Got a year 2000 DHD transfer case out of a gas truck coming with the different mainshaft to swap to nv 4500
Weston injectors ordered
Still waiting on an answer for the clutch, trying to find out if I need the sintered iron disk or not, or if just the ceramic is sufficient?
D80 spool; will be buying gears for front and rear soon
Box charger S464 .9 AR ; run an adapter plate for now until I can get a t4 manifold
FASS 200 pump
Looks like I might be diving into the valvetrain...
Any other thoughts or contributions are appreciated! Thanks to everyone who has helped so far... more to come!
Sent from phone
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98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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07-30-2013, 02:24 PM
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Name: Penni
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Another update,
Got the charger ordered, and a .9 housing
Finally got the clutch ordered, went with a 3850 sintered iron
Spool is on its way
Should be getting enough parts here soon to start tearing onto this... I'll upload somene pictures once I start
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Mike
98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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07-30-2013, 03:13 PM
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Name: cummins03
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Don't get a ceramic clutch they wont take the heat. I found out the hard way
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07-30-2013, 08:30 PM
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Name: Penni
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i did go with the sintered iron disk from valair... i went with NMU70NV45DDB is the part number...
another question for you guys...
i called FASS earlier today and their lift pump options for 12v aren't very robust, they only offer a 125gph and a 220gph (titanium series).... $110 dollar price difference... they said the 125gph is good to 700hp but i'm not convinced...
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98 - 12v, under construction now, eventually a dedicated 2.5 puller
06 - QCSB - G56, 3250 SB DD, Fass 150, Arson III, 90hp DDP, EFI Live by Done Right Diesel Performance, CTS Insight, S&B CAI, Full Audio System
1972 - Chevy C-10 longbed, also rebuilding slowly
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