Advertisement
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Home Who's Online Today's Posts HP Calculator CompD Gift Shop Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together > Tech Area- Dodge > Dodge Competition and Performance > P-Pump 24Valve
Register Members List Timeslips EFI Live Library Invite Your Friends FAQ Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-28-2012, 06:18 PM   #21
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
Modified that plug today for a fuel pressure port, its now got a #4 flare sticking out of it. Using a oil drain fitting is a good idea.

Never thought of cutting the front of the head off, good idea. Do you have a link to a picture of a head modified like that?

Did a bit more today, rocker arms were all taken apart and inspected, pjt pack together with assembly lube. Valvetrain is now all together and lashed. Pump is on, timed at 18 degrees.

Lift pump, fuel lines, fuel return, p/s pump and lines, mounting the computer, are the next big jobs.
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 12-28-2012, 08:08 PM   #22
Tate
 
Tate's Avatar

Name: Tate
Title: What?
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Airdrie, Alberta
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 3,419
Here is a pic of head #1. I wanted to keep the mounting points for the APPS intact. Head #2 I just lopped the whole corner off. Its still a pain in the ass to remove the pump, especially with the oil feed on the inside.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Cut head.jpg (106.9 KB, 0 views)
__________________
'98 3500 2wd, 24v, 5 spd, p-pumped
'98 2500 4wd, 12v, 6 spd, VP'd
'02 VW Jetta, 5 spd.

My p-pump conversion pics
 
Old 12-28-2012, 08:57 PM   #23
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
gotcha... well maybe on the next one... 15mm swivel on a 1 foot long 1/4 inch extension did the trick
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:21 PM   #24
rucummins
 
rucummins's Avatar

Name: rucummins
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Richmond, VA/ Buffalo NY
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 957
Same here, not easy but a swivel and long extension work well. When you get the computer relocated please post pictures. I spun mine down and away but inner fender does sound like a cleaner look.
__________________
01 ppump, almost driveable again...
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:26 PM   #25
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
Quote:
Originally Posted by rucummins View Post
Same here, not easy but a swivel and long extension work well. When you get the computer relocated please post pictures. I spun mine down and away but inner fender does sound like a cleaner look.
will do, extending the sensor wires will be a pain, but it will be worth it to have it out of the way
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-03-2013, 12:48 PM   #26
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
Little more progress, everything else is broken down so progress has been slow.

Fuel system is complete, seeig that we arnt really going for performance here, we have a stock 12v fuel system on the truck, minus the fuel heater. A return line was bent up, and the stock 24v banjo fitting was used on it. 12v hard lines needed a bit of tweaking, bit worked fine.

Streached the return OFV spring about a 1/4 of an inch.

Throttle bracket is also made, its a portion of the 24v apps bracket cut off and bolted on the back of the Shut down solinoid bracket, works nicely. Need to mount the exhaust brake switch still.

Fuel pressure port...
Click the image to open in full size.
Filter head
Click the image to open in full size.
Return line and stock 12v feed
Click the image to open in full size.
You can just barely see the throttle cable, and bracket. And the piston pump.
Click the image to open in full size.
Cut and welded a notch into the banks intake horn to fit the ppump lines
Click the image to open in full size.
Industrial valve cover modified for the studs up front, needed a bit if clearance because we did not bottom tap the block, went overboard just because it looks cool
Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-05-2013, 06:47 PM   #27
AJenson
 
AJenson's Avatar

Name: AJenson
Title: Diesel Mechanic
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Onalaska, Wa
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 290
Looks like your about done!

Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2
__________________
2003 2500 6Spd QCLB 4X4 Totaled 10/19/2010
2002 2500 6Spd ext cab sport 4X4 lifted on 37's, Airdog, P-Pumped and twins
2012 Ram 3500 CCSB 4X4 Auto
 
Old 01-05-2013, 06:55 PM   #28
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
yep, besides wiring.

my father took it upon himself to totally re-do the harness in the engine bay, looks like a bomb went off with wires, almost half of it is routed crazy or just plain unneeded

but besides putting the fronjt end back together, its about done
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-12-2013, 01:34 PM   #29
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
slow progress, about a days worth of finishing up loose ends to go, the whole idea with this swap was to address other issues at the same time, so thats what is taking the longest...

got a set of flexalite fans, still need to wire them with an aux override.
Click the image to open in full size.
brake lines
Click the image to open in full size.
power steering/hydroboost lines were made up out of stainless braid, routed them out of the way for more room in the engine bay
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
P/S fluid filter
Click the image to open in full size.
here is the computer bracket, it hangs off the master
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-13-2013, 03:26 PM   #30
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
she runs!!

few questions, do the industrial 175hp pumps have a weird gov assembly or are they the same as a 160 pump? feels a tad anemic and im thinking it may be related to gov springs, right now its 4k's set at 4 clicks

next, Ive been hearing rumors that a ppump 24V like this may like more timing?
its an 02 HO engine, IDK what that has for pistons but at 18 degress when you blip the throttle from idle the truck smokes white, but it runs perfect? injectors are scheid 100 horse set at ppump pop.

runs about as well as it did with the vp44, but im expecting a tad more power, guess it needs some tuning
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-13-2013, 03:36 PM   #31
WUnderwood
 
WUnderwood's Avatar

Name: WUnderwood
Title: CompD Minion
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Texas
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 8,418
great thread, thanks for the pics!
__________________
2011 Ford F-150 Lariat 4X4

Click the image to open in full size.

RIP BFD99, jponder, and Forrest Nearing
 
Old 01-13-2013, 05:20 PM   #32
mathews8pt

Name: mathews8pt
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2009
Location: central ohio
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,269
Have you double checked the timing? 18 should be ok, although I usually run them a little higher
__________________
Hobie
2000 QCSB, 180 pump, 6x.013's, maxspool 2.5, trans built by me, AD150, 64/80 compounds 11.51@119mph w/s468 single
 
Old 01-13-2013, 07:14 PM   #33
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
Quote:
Originally Posted by WUnderwood View Post
great thread, thanks for the pics!
thanks! ill have a few more pics. as we finish it up, most impressive part is how quiet it is, with the lack of the fan, the cam, and the lack of the VP, the engine sounds smoother, throatier.

need to get drivability up to par, we have a fuel supply issue, the pump was pushing 35 psi of fuel before we went for the first test drive, 15-20 psi after we came back, something seems plugged. it may be all the issue we are having with the engine feeling sluggish

I will probably check the timing tomorrow, I doubt it slipped, but i clearly need to confirm that
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-13-2013, 08:43 PM   #34
cumminsman315
 
cumminsman315's Avatar

Name: cumminsman315
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Missouri
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 987
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahale2772 View Post
she runs!!

few questions, do the industrial 175hp pumps have a weird gov assembly or are they the same as a 160 pump? feels a tad anemic and im thinking it may be related to gov springs, right now its 4k's set at 4 clicks

next, Ive been hearing rumors that a ppump 24V like this may like more timing?
its an 02 HO engine, IDK what that has for pistons but at 18 degress when you blip the throttle from idle the truck smokes white, but it runs perfect? injectors are scheid 100 horse set at ppump pop.

runs about as well as it did with the vp44, but im expecting a tad more power, guess it needs some tuning
not sure but I daily drive on 24*, mine is an 01 HO
__________________
01 24v
 
Old 01-18-2013, 01:40 PM   #35
STACKED

Name: STACKED
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Aug 2009
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 377
Why did u re-do your brake lines
__________________
08 qclb 3500 deleted efi live/tcm tuned by dave@draconian
SOLD 01 qcsb 2wd 6spd adrenaline 4k+pulse CPP 7x12 nozzles AD-165 Valair
SOLD 98.5, 1ton, 4x4, 5spd, 4.10s, 315s, 160hp p-pump
SOLD 91.5,w250,auto,3.55s,d80 dually conversion,no afc lever,SDX 5x14
 
Old 01-18-2013, 03:03 PM   #36
rucummins
 
rucummins's Avatar

Name: rucummins
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Richmond, VA/ Buffalo NY
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 957
I'm guessing they have rusted through or getting close to rusting out.
__________________
01 ppump, almost driveable again...
 
Old 01-18-2013, 03:36 PM   #37
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
nope, just for more room in the engine bay, they were rotted, but not that bad.

truck is running good, burning through the stock clutch.

I'll throw some pics up tomorrow of the finished product.

timing at 22 deg made the truck wake up
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-19-2013, 06:28 PM   #38
cummins754
 
cummins754's Avatar

Name: cummins754
Title: Green Behind the Ears
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Central Mass
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 31
Looks good. Did you use an apps kit?
__________________
2000 QCSB 2500 SLT with Leveling Kit with Toyo Proxes S/T 325/50 on 20x9 Diamo 8 Karat Airdog 2 165 gph Quadzilla Adr. Beans Diesel Fuel Sump Issopro Ev1 Gauges (Tranny temp., EGT's, Fuel Pressure and Boost)
 
Old 01-19-2013, 06:31 PM   #39
ahale2772
 
ahale2772's Avatar

Name: ahale2772
Title: Too Much Time
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Oct 2011
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 2,442
Apps kit? The throttle bracket was custom mafe if that is what you are talking about
__________________
94 SCLB dually 11.3@122
 
Old 01-28-2013, 01:34 PM   #40
Mikerodrig27
 
Mikerodrig27's Avatar

Name: Mikerodrig27
Title: Cummins!
Status: Not Here
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Member`s Gallery
Posts: 10
Looks great! My VP-44 is pulling a 2016 code and is giving me a dead pedal. Looks like I'm going to start collecting parts for a swap.

What did you use to weld the notch in the intake horn up?
 
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 PM.

 


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2024, CompetitionDiesel.com
all information found on this site is property of www.competitiondiesel.com